You were goromed

Most men are grooming victims.
Be honest with yourself, do you want a girlfriend or sex because you actually want to, or because someone put such things you head from a very young age when you were too young to understand such things?

From a young age, boys are often indoctrinated. INDOCTRINATED. Not educated about what relationships are. All your self worth and intimacy. This indoctrination is basically a form of systemic grooming. You wouldn't do this to a girl, right? But it's okay if you do it to a boy.

From an young age, you're constantly told that your "male card" is only valid if you can answer the following...

how many girls like you

how many girls you went to bed with

how confident and dominant you are around women

how well you conform to the image of being a player

This shit turns into a prison as time goes on. A boy who's more artsy, sensitive, introspective, or just indifferent to such "games" will instantly be turned into an outsider. An abomination. Even if he does not want to be such thing. This has nothing to do with him lacking values or humanity, he simply never felt the need to participate in such games.

I want a gf because I want to coom in her holes, that's it. end of story the same thing I've wanted to do since I was a teenager.

Most men are grooming victims

Definitely

People will then sell to you sex as a false "salvaiton" from the sin of not caring.
I see young men fucking up their mental health to the point of self-harm over some shit someone else told them to have, not because they actually care about that girl in specific and then wants to have sex with her because he just likes her this much... Nope. You're supposed to be a Chad, you're supposed to be fucking left and right, you're supposed to be a "little heartbreaker."
Your humanity is stripped before you even understand what the fucking sex or romance even is. You don't have time to breathe and you're already forcing yourself into something you're just not mentally ready.

So, what happens? Society and parents don't teach young men to desire women as a partner. No, but as something you're supposed to conquer. It's all a game, a numbers game. And the worst part? You can't leave, you're punished if you don't want to play the game. And even if you win the damn game, you're not fulfilled.

It's depressing to see men wasting their 20s and 30s on something that is a lie. A game that keeps them constantly chasing approval, but not meaning.

It's a systemic cycle, and no wonder women freak the fuck out and turn into Misandrists or Femcels. I can't even blame them.
Look at the type of men that are constantly being churned out to society. They're ruined, they could've been nice boyfriends, partners, even fathers. But they're spawnkilled the moment they hit puberty and it depresses me.

You have fathers telling their sons to man up, get laid, not be a nice guy. Mothers who constantly want to show you as a trophy just because you're getting someone. You're not a person, you're an object of pride. Then, you have other men who constantly reward you if you're aggressive or an asshole for no reason.
Men don't even have a chance to understand Romance or the concept of trust and vulnerability, it's all replaced with porn tropes, memes, and bravado.

So like, it's grooming. You wouldn't do such shit to a little girl, but people think it's okay for parents and others to project and coerce their offspring into being sexual for self-gratification.

Do you think women are aware of this phenomenon? I sometimes think that the female cabal knows very well that if we stop caring about them, we will go instinct. That's why they flood the internet with sexually arousing content brainwashing men like

I just wish people as a whole, men and women understood why shit is the way it is. It's just terrible. It's not about "not caring about them," it's more about not being a sperg who thinks life is all about chasing women for the sake of chasing women.
Most guys aren't chasing women because they want to. They're doing that because they've been told from very young that you can only be "male" if you do that. If you don't, you're defective, broken, and non-human.
It's kinda like saying you never voted in your life.

You are right but also you're trying to convince me to troon out so I will ignore your advice.

If I wanted you to troon out, I would've told you to just HRTmaxx because being male is so hawwwd.

the most basic human instinct is actually... le grooming!

Buy a gun and blow your brains out, retard.

There's a massive difference between that basic human extinct being used healthily and the absolute shitshow parents, adults, and other peers do.
Yes, you like that girl. If you like her, you will try talking to her and learn more about her as a person, if things work or not and you fall into a friendzone, you can just befriend her, and with that experience you can learn how to be a better boyfriend in the future.

But no, people don't do that. They never do that. They just yell at your ear: "Go get her or you're a subhuman" from age 12. It causes them to force themselves into relationships they never wanted, rejection (since it was forced,) depression, resentment, depersonalization, and then the "cures" they society sells to you. But those "cures" are just as poisonous.
That's why you have incels, men who harm themselves with hammer to make their jawlines more defined, and outright schizophrenic theories over why can't date due to online apps with rigged algorithms.

If you don't think a relationship is necessary to become a man you're foolish. A woman is a man's first child, and that kind of responsibility is what turns him into a man.

There's nothing wrong ig with being a forever child. From certain perspectives, but don't wonder why you're an outsider then. I was an outsider like this for many years, and still kinda am I'm all fucked up inside but one thing I noticed after I got a girlfriend was how much easier life and society was. Did you know all of the friends I've made were the result of just being attractive to girls? Alot of men I notice I feel like they befriend me just to neutralize me as a threat to their girl, or to sus me out as a person and make sure I'm legit because a girl they know is interested in me. Relationships are also about 40 percent of what people talk about so it's useful to have experience in it.

I didn't need to be groomed to want sex lol but as an autist I never knew to jump through bullshit hoops for female attention and now I'm an outsider.

That's why you have incels, men who harm themselves with hammer to make their jawlines more defined, and outright schizophrenic theories over why can't date due to online apps with rigged algorithms.

What a statement. Don't forget about society normalizing chopping your dick off and wearing dresses.

Women create porn. Women also bitch about porn addicts. What a fucked up society

Exactly, never denied that as well. Transmaxxing is another form of self-harm and cope as well.

This beta has been groomed hard
Ask yourself why you're so afraid of being alone.

nah its because im a subhuman that desires affection like an idiot

thanks stan

If men don't chase women, societies collapse

Not arguing against that, by all means
Just bringing up a point that women are useless

I was alone for 5 years, I'm not afraid of it, it was just really boring

oh yeah i was also indoctrinated into liking food and shelter too you fucking retard

will not read that wall of text, but i will say this:

puberty and hormones

you retard

being alone is boring

How is it boring? I don't understand.

I argue this as one of those outsiders:
Who fucking cares?
Those people don't want anything to do with me. I don't want them in my business either. Society is a joke, women are a meme. No values given by those "people" appeal to me. That's an entirely different world than the one I live in. Your manhood doesn't matter if you're living under a bridge shooting drugs just to keep yourself warm in the winter on a cardboard box. The only people winning are the greedy people running companies bickering with each other like wild dogs.
I realized it was all shit early on and kept myself out of it. Love doesn't exist. There is nothing that comes from society that doesn't lead to more strain so you're best off finding a healthy medium and sticking to it. Trying to grab more than what you need just turns you into another greedy animal, only you're the idiot that works themselves to death for a family of vultures.
Clutching onto your humanity is the biggest mental trap.

le science explains why your a faggot

Nothing burger of a reply

bro instinctual behavior isn't real

mfw

>le science explains why your a faggot

did i say that? no? dont put words in my mouth nigger

You could have the best puberty and hormones possible, it will all be for nothing if the people you grew up with combined with your peers eventually ruin your upbringing. Then, women pay the price.

Could you stay on topic?

are you a virgin? yes or no.

what advice they're giving?

CHAD doesn't have to do any of that, CHAD just gets pussy. He can communicate in grunts and still fuck.

Did you know all of the friends I've made were the result of just being attractive to girls?

i can make friends without being attractive to girls.

one thing I noticed after I got a girlfriend was how much easier life and society was

in what regard?

to desire women as a partner.

Women aren't desireable as partners, that's the thing. They have no depth, it doesn't matter if they're an extroverted Stacy or an autistic NEET. They have no depth as human beings. They watch the same shows, play the same games, do the same shit. They have no constructive hobbies, everything they do is either for attention or for fulfilling some chad romance fantasy.

Clutching onto your humanity is the biggest mental trap.

There is nothing that comes from society that doesn't lead to more strain so you're best off finding a healthy medium and sticking to it

what you mean?

Nope, I was a late bloomer in fact.
I was single for most of my life until my early 20s, I had a single girlfriend, and then became a "manwhore" and did exactly as what I was meant to be according to the script given to me.
After that, I realized that perhaps I was being coerced into doing something rather than doing htat out of my own volition.
In fact, even after "winning the game," it was not enough, it's never enough. They will always move the goalposts.
Cool! You got your first kiss, now fuck her. Cool, you fucked her! Now put a ring on her! Now have children, now have this, now have that, now do that, now do this.

It's tiring, it's robotic.

So you're basically a normie flexing and gloating to a bunch of incels online, color me shocked.

Damn I WISH I was like you fucking autists who don't want or need a woman in your lives.
Forget women, YOU are the ones who live live on the easiest difficulty.

Forget women, YOU are the ones who live live on the easiest difficulty.

no, virgin shaming exists so it's not easy

Normie?
I'm not a normie. I don't use most social media, and I have issues with relating to most people. But, I don't call them "normies," I just know that there's a compatibility issue with me and most, that's all.
I know shit's fucked but I never felt the need to turn bitter. I'm just disappointed at how people treat each other these day in general.
I just came back to R9K share something I feel. I never felt the need to talk about chad, stacy or whatever the fuck because those aren't my own experiences.
It's nothing but a schizophrenic game of telephone. Men telling other men telling other men about a hyper specific type of woman who happens to be awful.
I just realized that I was foolish for thinking for years that that if I dated and had sex, my life would suddenly improve. Well, it didn't. It only brought me a laundry list of "things you should do with her" that just pissed me off and disillusioned me.
The confidence boost you get only lasts three days at best. After that, you're the same person as you have always been.
After you cum, earth will spin the same way as it did yesterday.

I'm not a normie

says the sex haver faggot virtue signalling online

I mean, you only need them if you actually feel like it. Putting 50% on a pedestal while using increasingly insane copes and theories as to why you're failing will only cause you to go ape shit, and people in general, regardless of sex, wouldn't like to date someone who:

sees you as another number

cannot do any type of emotional labor

only learn how to love for sexual access and thus social validation

never emotionally matured past age 11 due to a shitty upbringing

I had sex, neat. What happened since then? Am I normie to most people? Do people in the street register me as a normie? How many friends do I have? Do you see where I am going? Sticking my dick left and right did not improved my life in the slightest.

I'm in a fucked up situation where both normies and robots cannot accept me as one of them. Unbelievable.

cry me a river

Sticking my dick left and right

"i'm not a normie guyeees XDXD!"

LOL

See, that's what I was talking about. You put your self-worth on external things, like numbers. You don't even care about connection or dating. I did exactly as I was told, to get laid. I did. What changed for me? Nothing. All these girls ghosted me. It was terrible, but that's how life is, I will not call them whores or roasties. We had our time and that was it.
I stopped fucking everything because it just feels narcissistic. Like, it doesn't even feel like I'm enjoying sex, I only like the dopamine it gives me or something.

All my friends are online, I barely have any social media, and I don't go to any other place that isn't college or work. So like, no, I am not a normie. I'm a cyborg at best. I understand both realities at the same time and I feel like joining them whenever I feel like it.

You put your self-worth on external things, like numbers

I had a single girlfriend, and then became a "manwhore"

just like how you admitted to doing it yourself?
I sincerely wish you get cancer.

I understand both realities at the same time

you really don't.

I feel like joining them whenever I feel like it.

you better be very good at larping, be careful not to slip up and show your true colors

I used that term as an example, it doesn't really matter if you win "the game" if the game was forced on you from the very beginning. You won't get happy if you win.
Perhaps what I learned in life isn't universal, but it might resonate with some. It's okay if it does not resonate to you personally though.

Even if I don't understand both realities, who cares. It does not make me a bad person either way. "Robots" and "normies" are both right and bat shit insane in their own ways, it's up to you to pick what makes sense or not.

It's okay if it does not resonate to you personally though.

it doesn't resonate with many.

"Robots" and "normies" are both right and bat shit insane in their own ways, it's up to you to pick what makes sense or not.

a fence sitter i see.

You're 100% correct imo OP. Don't listen to the thirsty simps. I haven't been on this board in ages... I'm only here because I clicked r9k instead of pol but found this thread interesting. I'm older and have plenty of relationship and life experience. In a happy relationship now for over 10 years but I still think what you describe is spot on.

cyborg, a.k.a. larper