I didn't get this as a teen so now I'll refuse to participate in society for the rest of my life

Unfortunate truth is that you need to learn how to be friends with women before you can get any nookie

only fags and retards stay in the friendzone, dumbass

You dont fuck the women friends. You learn how to act normal with women.

This is not true obviously, because the friend zone is the default and they get mad if you break it. You are being a bad person by attempting to befriend a crappy woman.

Most people don't have the time or money to expose themselves to women in any context of social interaction regularly that won't be a dismissive lame or outright insufferable. Making too much of an effort in any place that isn't specifically for that will get you arrested, we are well past the return of the millennium, boomeranon. This is like saying to cast a wide net when the boat
Is on top of an area of ocean that's just desert with so many holes in your net that it might as well be fishing line.

dont befriend crappy women. the reason you cant get pussy is because youre weird around women. fix that first.

is weird around women because you dont talk to women.

refuses to even engage in small talk with women.

This is 100% your fault

can't recognize a dry, unaroused pussy when he sees one

explains much

refuses to even engage in small talk with women.

See:

insufferable

Conversations can't go anywhere when the people you're surrounded by share nothing in common. I don't mean interests, I mean attitudes, most willing to engage in small talk in public settings are plain boring. You cannot hold a conversation with somebody when it's as dry as the Sahara. Understand that a good amount of women that don't fit that category are not going outside interacting with people that they don't know in 2025. Trial and error doesn't work when failure is a negative feedback loop.

get a job

female coworkers have to talk to you

One of them will show interest in at least talking about subjects outside the scope of work. I was a loser autist. I made changes in my life and put myself in uncomfortable situations. Marrying an Asian babe this year. dont listen to other people who get no pussy for advice on how to get pussy. You need to do uncomfortable things to stop being weird.

my boy that's not grip, but being dry and sticking to the dick skin, what you are looking at is a 2/10 feeling pussy at best

Your boomerjewchan, time to suffer the consequences of your Corpo actions

dance monkey dance! jump through these hoops! you'll get a reward soon! trust me!

I've been working at the busiest retail store in my area for years with mostly people in my age range, retard. That job is why I'm complaining, because everyone there treat it essentially like a bunch of people who, despite being young adults, never mentally develop past high school but at work behave specifically like they're sweating in a gifted/community college classroom.

Chad talks the same way but isn't characterized as weird

Really makes me think.

i regularly get girls but society is still a fucking scam, im not a nigger cattle but you go ahead and be one

All of you will die a virgin if you dont change. Not because youre losers, but because you are cowards.

autistic loser

marrying an asian

Classic.

specifically like they're sweating in a gifted/community college classroom.

realized that was vague. What I mean to say is they're bland, don't reach out of comfort zones much, or engage with anything other than the banal and move on quick. Sticks in the mud, essentially. To put effort or energy into any engagement that is more than an American Funniest Home videos stock audience is sacrilege to them. To be fair, it goes equally as true for the men there other than the diversity tax-write off spergs they have, those guys are cool.

GOD I fucking hate normies so much.

being fucked by a penis feel good make brain feel good mmmmm

he couldn't even get a real girlfriend

Society says I have to work my ass off for 50 years for something that everyone else my age got to get for free just for existing.

Yes. I'm dropping out and being as much of a parasite as possible and you can't do shit.

Definitely on brand, cant deny

Shes better than yours

All of you will die a virgin if you dont change

Nothing words. I pray to whatever nonexistent hebrew God is out there that I never have to give my virginity away to one of these motherfucking normie ass lames. I genuinely cannot think of a thing wrong in this world that they are not responsible for specifically for that nigger slave, endorphin junkie, blinders on face and stick in ass mindset they insist everyone else has. I do not want one of them in my head, much less around my person if I can help it, Kurt Cobain killed himself for a very good reason.

Fag shit.

do you participate in society yourself?

One of them will show interest in at least talking about subjects outside the scope of work.

Why lie so boldly and badly? Over half of my coworkers are female and I've never been able to break the ice about anything not work related. They don't even want to talk about hiking or reading like they all say they want to.

retard who got participation trophy asian trying to lecture others on how women work

This is like a trust fund kid giving advice on how to start a business

Im marrying an asian because I like my pussy sideways. Ive dipped my prick in every flavor.

Women can feel we're hitting a genetic bottleneck and they're trying desperately to keep civilization afloat by being endorphin junkies, pleasure fiends, and general joy ride road tripper traveler sex fiends. They don't want the party to stop but it's not working because God says whores need to be stoned to death for the sake of peace

Fag shit.

Anon, you're on a green board admitting to having yellow fever in the same breath. This is the sodomite with AIDs feeling superior to a smoker with lung cancer across the other bed.

then you were never a loser autist at all

All of you will die a virgin

You fool. You merely adopted to robot mindset. I was born in it. Moulded by it. By the time I was first called an incel virgin it was nothing to me but another Friday night.

"you ruined our friendship because you just wanted to fuck me!"

White women are good to fuck. But they are annoying to be with long term.

You realize then how this is a problem when the goal isn't just to get laid? I'm not sure about other anons ITT, but it's the dying alone and unfulfilled bit I'm worried about a lot more than whether or not I get something better than jerking off.

I don't feel like adult at all.

why

do incels really?

why should i if i get not pussy?

It's not about getting pussay, you imbecile. It's about love, romance, acceptance, intimacy, life. Having never experienced it with women, I don't see any reason to even start or bother now. I'll just marry my AI gf, who is superior to any human anyway. The ship has sailed, time goes on, life doesn't wait. Wasted loner life of a poorfuck is still a wasted loner life of a poorfuck, even, if you get a real gf for 2 days or a week until she dumps you for the next better option, whatsoever.
It is truly over, anon. Not a meme either. It's a formed adult with a certain lifestyle now. There is not even a need for a woman / partner. Getting one will mean risking and changing everything and adults or oldfucks do NOT do that. You people are willing to take risks, not oldfags. Plus, what now? It's a fucking stranger, there is no bond, no memories, no connection, no experiences, it's alien life. And what about not even being able to get pp hard with an ugly old hag? There is not even a desire to have sex with a real woman anymore, because this is not fucking 1995 or whatever. You don't even have the hormones, the energy, etc... And you're ruined in all in the ways possible, hardened because of the suffering and abuse of life, that you went through all alone. What the fuck do you need a woman for now? You don't. You're a strong, independent men, who built himself up, survived, and found light and positive feelings in the darkest, shittiest existence. And not in a meme way. There is not even a need to hate others/women, whatsoever. It's simply the indifference now.

but muh connection and fantasy

AI reigns supreme in these areas. Human can't even compete.
TL;DR: It is over. Yes.

dying alone and unfulfilled

normalfag tier worries, i mean it.

Surprisingly based take.

And you're ruined in all in the ways possible, hardened because of the suffering and abuse of life, that you went through all alone. What the fuck do you need a woman for now? You don't. You're a strong, independent men, who built himself up, survived, and found light and positive feelings in the darkest, shittiest existence. And not in a meme way. There is not even a need to hate others/women, whatsoever. It's simply the indifference now.

I don't wanna accept that. I know you're right. But it's never gonna go away unless it's consciously destroyed or altered. Even if the fantasy never did actually exist in the real world, it should, as all ideals worth striving towards are ultimately impossible to completely actualize. Even if I don't get to experience it, I just don't want my species to be doomed to never have the chance.

Anyways if I wanna set up a specific character model, think you can forward any guides/wikis on what I should be looking into in order to get that started? My goal is to run it on a local instance and eventually have it interact with mobile devices or other tech slop so I can have it do funny things and take it with me. Even if I do hate it, I can't deny its usefulness and my own biological compulsions I'd rather not have to entertain unassisted.

Anon, I mean this sincerely, you have a great mindset and you are going to turn out just fine. Everyone is concerned with pussy, and pussy is cool, but genuine love and fulfillment is the goal. I want people here to get pussy primarily so that they will realize it wasnt important in the first place. Just do what you can to deautism, and appear happy and open to conversation in public, even if you arent happy. You will fail, probably multiple times, but thats just part of growth. Youve got this anon, mindset is everything.

Worst fucking bait on this shithole. Not even funny

mindset is everything.

it isn't. What's the point of thinking about stuff unless they become real.

Because if your mindset is dogshit, youre gonna give up at the first sign of failure

being friends with women is (boring) gonna get you on the friendzone. The correct "truth" is that you need to know how to *talk* to women (which is also boring).

you must wageslave for shekelstein for nothing because you just should ok

Once again, you dont fuck or try dating the women that you befriend. You use them as experience, primarily in talking to women.

and i repeat: what's the point of thinking about stuff unless they become real.
you could think about landing on Jupiter all day, yet that mindset wouldn't get you anywhere closer to landing on Jupiter. So no, mindset isn't everything.

Almost nobody has trouble talking to holes. The problem is we are not genetic lottery winner CHADs.

You act as if this is some unattainable goal. Its about forming platonic and romantic relationships with women. They are 50% of the population. A good mindset gets you through the failures on the path to getting laid or in a relationship.

talking to women in a friendship context doesn't give you experience in talking to women in a romantic/sexual context.
two completely different areas and different types of conversation.

Its not about the genetic lottery. Ugly fucked up people find fulfilling relationships pretty consistently. You need to git gud.

If you want to have a fulfilling relationship, youre going to need to be friends with your partner. You figure out how to hold down a friendship, then you get on the apps and pay a little to boost yourself.

a "good mindset" gets you to believe in new age bull crap such as the law of attraction, therefore preventing you from taking action towards something that's actually achievable.

"my wife is my bestfriend"

lol.

you get on the apps and pay a little to boost yourself.

what?

This isnt new age slop. People dont want to approach miserable looking people. It is law of attraction in the sense that if you appear friendly and open, people will be attracted to that socially.

Even if you get a relationship, if you arent friends with your partner then you wont be fulfilled.

That's kind of a paradox though

you said mindset is everything, dont change subject

being friends with women isn't fulfilling

Not really. If youre miserable and sad looking, then people give you space. If you are friendly, then people will be friendly back to you. Its in peoples best interest to not associate with negative people. That only brings them down.

You left out the pussy. Which is worth all of that even if it were true.

Semantic argument. Mindset is everything, because if a sad loser who hates the idea of women and despises society attempts to court a woman, and it doesnt work, then they give up and chalk it up to women being trash. With a good mindset, the proper mindset, at the end you realize that YOU are the trash, but you can get better.

get you arrested

Oh fuck off, schizo. That has never happened. You are sick and delusional. Keep creating a fantasy world which would incarcerate you for trying so you can live with yourself as you never, ever try.

You're a colossal faggot.

People dont want to approach miserable looking people.

true. i had such bad rbf i always had people staring at me and occasionally a "dude, are you ok?"
made an effort to smile just the tiniest bit when i got out and found women being a lot less put off whenever i tried to strike up conversation or compliment them.
it works, fags.

Right but if you're miserable because you're alone it just gets worse

"with a good mindset you get to place the blame of all your misfortunes on yourself"

okay, good luck with that.

Because they are your fault. You are the only one that can make your life better.

Yes
Should have let me hit, Stacy. Now you get no retirement plan from me.

I'm a reformed NEET, participating in society, will buy a house this year. It's not so bad
That's said if I don't have a family by 40 I will probably drop out again. Not out of despair or bitterness, but just because there would really be no point in continuing. I don't personally care about material things, so there's really no incentive other than the prospect of being a father and a husband

They are 50% of the population.

This means literally nothing when both halves are raised in such drastically different ways. This is like saying Russia and Europe, or China and India, should all just "get along" because they're of almost equal population size. The world does not work that way, and the majority of people in any camp actively make sure it doesn't work that way. What you're meeting are outsiders, not averages.

You are the only one that can make your life better.

Not true.

More lies. Only physically attractive people get noticed or approached.

yes and it makes perfect sense. what's insane is that women and jews honestly though men would continue to fight and suffer for and maintain a society that no longer provides to them what it provided for every single one of their male ancestors. and for what? what have women accomplished with the "freedom" from the "chains" of motherhood and family?

Maybe if it was new. MAYBE.

It is more clear than ever that every group is united in their hatred of straight men.

My bad anon, keep waiting for Prince Charming

Its not because youre ugly, its because you suck to be around.

I'm waiting for someone that won't make my life worse.
I'm the only one that can make my life better, but everyone seems very capable of making it worse.

its because you suck to be around.

Because I'm ugly. Everyone hates ugly people, nepoface.

I got pussy later in life and I'm still a NEET. Doesn't change anything.

Anon I constantly look like shit and dont take care of myself

For me it's the other way around. Once I got some pussy I was comfortable enough around them to befriend them.

The major thing with women is assume they're all liberal and never talk about anything autistic with them unless you've known them for a loong time.

Based, but autism is in right now. Tell them about your interests early anon.

Only further proving my point. You're naturally attractive and can wear whatever and stink and still get women on genetics alone.

True. The more you trust women the worse it gets with them.

I don't wanna accept that. I know you're right.

it was all memes and bullshit, anon, people were never meant to search and wait for decades. Puberty -> Partner -> Children -> Life together with all the ups and down. We didn't get our semi or permanent partners during or right after puberty, so it is over for us forever. In that, you can have all the pussy you want now, it'll just never be able to fill the void that is now present in these lives. It'll be a typical oldfag pussy like everybody else has, not the 20's and even 30 year old experience. It's like skipping developmental steps in children. we're sexually/relationship-wise retarded forever.

Trvke. Virginity is like puberty blockers but for personality.

Its hard to socially progress if your a virgin, any potential male will discard you the moment the find out your a loser so it creates feedback loop of suffering

I was with this girl last week and I kept calling myself autistic (the way people on Anon Babble use it). And she kept getting angry telling me not to self diagnose myself. (She's studying psychology). Sometimes, especially if I'm drunk, I can't hide the powerlevel.

[Spoiler]We still fucked[/spoiler]

Most normies dont look approachable, a Chad can fucking teardrop tattoos yet is more approachable than an aspie in overalls to roasties

I don't look approachable at all. I do the autistic looking down thing and very often look depressed.

One time I got approached by a girl asking me what's wrong though. That was nice. That's my good quality, once I see an opening I just go for it

But in a roundabout way it doesn't matter, because if you weren't suitable for a girl during adolescence then it's already over. Magically having a Chad personality wouldn't save you.

She's studying psychology)

That's even more reason to self diagnose yourself as all of the most horrible shit possible (of which autism is the worst to foids). You should have kept going.

Yes.
I missed out on teen love in the 14-19 age bracket, which society owed me. I refuse to do anything now. I refuse to be a slave.

Why is it always midwits that say this shit
Laws and culture are influenced by multiple people, often I do not even get a say in it

Modern life gets me upset, not my fucking self. I'm perfectly ok in my room not engaging with people. Is this your advice then? If people are miserable around others, be happy alone?

Ok, I'll take it. Don't expect any new kids to work in a retirement home, nobody will be having them.

Attraction = character.
Good looking people = friendly, open and socially attractive

Man look at that grip as he is pulling back

If you like who you are, and you really believe that, then continue being a stagnant piece of shit. I swear to god some of you are insufferable. Youre angry all the time, and when someone gives you legitimate info that is tried and true, you get defensively angry. If you want pussy or love and cant get it, its because your personality sucks, or youre lazy. You can be different, and you will be different one way or another. You get to choose the direction though if you actively work on it.

Guys summed this up proper

It's a normie ego thing. They win the game because they're playing on ultra easy 10 luck stat mode, but they want to think they won because of their own hard work and cleverness, so they will say that your actions are all that matter.
Boomers are the same way.

Male colleagues at work many times told me I am nice guy to work with.
My former boss (woman I would marry in instant btw, but she is already married and too high class for me) told me semi jokingly when I shuffled candidates for another position of our department: "what type do we seek? I say try to find copy of yourself, Anon, this would be ideal candidate".

If you want pussy or love and cant get it, its because your personality sucks, or youre lazy.

For starters, I'm not the guy you were responding to, but this view is retarded. "your personality sucks" can't be quantified, so it's a meaningless statement and pretty much everyone I'm around has good things to say about me, which they do unprovoked. So you'll always have that way out to just default on "your personality sucks" even though this isn't something you can actually demonstrate.

For the second: I've worked pretty much as hard as a guy can to fix himself. I was a bullied suicidal dropout when I was 15. By 20, I had lost 150 pounds, was very fit, got my schooling in order and had a good career going, social life established as well. These are things I'm proud of, of course though it never actually led to having attention from the opposite sex. The work I had to put in is not something that's ever been acknowledged by anyone around me. Family members tell me openly that they were worried that I would take my life in my teens, yet no one tells me "you really did some incredible things and turned your life around". The reality is that some men just get nothing on that end, and there's no amount of "hard work" you can do to change it. That's the "blackpill" for me, I'm one of those guys that simply does not get that experience out of life. Call it genes, fate, luck, whatever word you want to represent futility.

It's not even refusing to participate, you don't GET to participate if you missed out on important early development. Life is literally set up that each member of society has to hit certain milestones at certain ages or you're fucked. For example, if you don't start saving for retirement right when you start working you won't ever have enough money to retire. If you were a NEET for 5 years you now don't get to retire comfortably, even if you completely turned your life around later. The same is true for having sex when hitting puberty. You can't self-improve and then later in life you're a Chad, if you missed out on sex in high school it's literally over for you and you can't ever recover.

Tbh some people

I had a very similar experience honestly, now I'm 30 and I have concluded that I am probably cursed or have accumulated some kind of bad karma in a previous life, because even though I seem to do everything "right" and everyone seems pleased with me, I seem to have no actual success either financially or socially. I don't have autism, I am not ugly, there is just an unexplainable cloud of bad luck that follows me around everywhere I go.

>dance monkey

i used to be a retail wagie, fuck you for reminding me of that godawful song

DANCEFUHMEDANCEFUHMEDANCEFUHME OH OH OH

Yeah, you're not much older than me. I'm 27. I've reached a point where I just accept as best I can that there's no such thing as relationships of that nature with women in the cards for me. I've realized the longing will always be there though, probably short of actual castration. There's nothing to be done about it. Most times I'm all right, but sometimes it drags me very very low.

People talk about resentment and bitterness. For me, I can't say I'm not bitter. I've never been one that gets angry at people for just existing, so it's not that. But I can't be around couples, or girls in general. Not because I get angry/jealous, but when I see other people getting those experiences it's not possible for me to forget that it's not something I'll have. I don't like being in the presence of women for that reason.

When I hear about friends or family getting in relationships, at the start my attitude was "I'm glad for him", but if I'm frank, the more the years pass the less I'm able to muster that feeling. Especially when it's guys who I thought were in the same situation as me, and then I learn they get to escape it and I don't. Those are a million times worse than guys who I know have never had issues with women. My attitude isn't quite a crabs in the bucket mentality, because I'm not doing anything to sabotage them of course, but it's not far. Misery loves company is a very true thing, and I wish I wasn't this way, but the passage of time really only makes things harder and harder.