Well I did it. I talked to my female therapist about my mysogynistic feelings. Went incredibly well...

What you said on the OP is honestly a red flag.

In what way, anon?

imagine paying a roastie to tell you about your white male privilege

I mean, she spent years in an academic setting. I don't expect her to not have ideas like that. And I think that in some instances the things they say about white privilege or male privilege, is true. But I think it's a lot more complicated than that and how much you benefit or don't from other people's perception of you varies greatly from moment to moment and social interaction to social interaction. If she brings it up again, I'd like to discuss my perspective on it with her and hear what she has to say. I think she'd see where I'm coming from and is more interested in me getting what I want out of therapy then she is in imposing her own worldview on me.

Best of luck to you trying to have a real conversation about this on Anon Babble. Making this thread after having a break through is like celebrating building the ground floor of a building by setting it on fire.

Stop posting/browsing here. You're not gonna find anything constructive and if you're vulnerable it might even be counterproductive towards your progress/goals.
this. Good luck

never go to therapy

You're definitely privileged if you feel "I think I hate women" is a real problem. Or if you think that picking up a book means you're "leaning too far into the other direction", that's not a thing at all either.

You should be fine as long as you keep that mindset of understanding where other people come from, you will get past your retarded aversion to some words and be a better person

Shut he FUCK up gaslighting FEMOIDS

Making this thread after having a break through is like celebrating building the ground floor of a building by setting it on fire

Kek yeah kinda. And I'm not really celebrating per se. It was more of an update for this one anon that seemed interested in the recent breakthrough that I had.

vulnerable

Honestly, don't think I've ever felt this self assured in my life. I've stopped rejecting aspects of myself that I found undesirable and have finally chosen to work on them. I feel whole. But yeah I think I'm due for a break from this place. Need to start focusing more on building up my irl relationships with people.

Should we help OP?
Unironic misogyny (or misandry) is an ugly personal quality and will wreck your life, hate and negativity have always been terrible for you.
Joking around on the internet sharpens your sense of humour allows you to sometimes puncture social falsehoods that will also mess you up. I wouldn't be surprised if we had channer therapists here. If so they're probably smart enough not to tip their hand.

Prayer(if you believe in a god) or meditation will do more to help you understand yourself and find your path than therapy ever could.

You're definitely privileged if you feel "I think I hate women" is a real problem

It is a real problem for me and something I want to rid myself of and I feel I have begun to. Or should I just keep hating women?

Or if you think that picking up a book means you're "leaning too far into the other direction", that's not a thing at all either.

I think this is a fair enough criticism. It's not that I'm opposed to reading anything she recommends. I'll do it. And I'll try to keep in open mind. I think maybe experiences with people that fling those sociological phrases around without any real thought, has probably just left a bad taste in my mouth. I'm sure that books that discuss those subjects have a bit more nuance to then that I might be more willing to accept.

the privilege I have as a white man

He is building the ground floor with horse shit and mud.

Or should I just keep hating women?

YES because they DESERVE it. Hating them is the only rational option

Interesting you guys keep bringing up this ground floor analogy. I actually changed up my main goals in therapy today thinking about a similar analogy. I changed them from wanting to deal with my anxiety and be more social to wanting to work on my sense of self and my self confidence. I figured if you're going to build a house, you don't usually start from the roof. Know what I mean?

All of them, anon? Nah, I just can't do that anymore. Women can be very kind and understanding. And intelligent too.

Conventional therapies waste your time.
Sorry.

What the fuck is therapy even for how the fuck do people not figure this shit out by themselves I'm surrounded by retards and ready to kill

Well at least that's not fully retarded but for the love of god find a non foid therapist who won't brainwash you into castration

find a non foid therapist

My first two therapists were men and they were shit. First guy would forget everything we talked about and the second one actually cracked a joke about a problem I was dealing with. My female therapist is much nicer, listens to me, and remembers the things we talk about.

brainwash you into castration

I'm just trying to get to a point where I can live my life, anon. I want to be able to interact with women in a normal and healthy way. I think getting to sit down and talk to her is a good step in that direction. But I will keep an eye out for any castration brainwash, I guess.

I used to feel like this when I was younger. But nowadays I see the value in having someone to bounce my thoughts and feelings off of and having someone who I can get a 2nd opinion from.

I used to

I don't need your tired condescension retard you lost the ability to solve your own problems with age and now you're posturing as wise kys

just trying to get to a point where I can live my life, anon. I want to be able to interact with women in a normal and healthy way

Therapist who actually studied incels in a scientific way came to the concussion that conventional therapy doesn't work Read his book if you doesn't already it is must. And it would be 10 times better than any therapists who are ignorant about subject

Wasn't really trying to be condescending. Just my perspective, anon. Looking back now and thinking about the kind of person I was when I sneered at the prospect of any kind of outside help. I was a fucking mess kek. But maybe you're different than me.

Cucked as fuck (originally)

I have a female therapist who is the same age as me (24) and hot. I have expressed my loneliness and all that but I will not talk to her about how badly I desire a relationship and how badly it affects my self esteem to have never had one. I certainly won't tell her some of my blackpill views. It just feels nice to have a girl sympathize with me while I rant at her about other shit for an hour, and it doesn't cost me much because of insurance.

Words have many meanings to different people, any deeper conversation and you can get past le sociological phrase nonsense to understand what the other person is actually trying to convey

any deeper conversation

I'm sure but most of the people who use those phrase aren't interested in a deeper conversation and are usually pretty antagonistic from what I've seen. Kind of like how you were even though I was indicating a willingness to change the way that I see things. But I definitely have been similar in the past so I guess I shouldn't really be able to say anything on that.

What are your mysoginistic views? You sound like a fairly grounded and rational person

What has y'all's experiences with female therapists been like?

I've been with my therapist for 3 years now, since I was 16. She's been truly kind to me, she's not very "professional" and she gives me the last session when I ask for it so we can eat together and just talk about life on her office after time runs out. But I'm a very reserved person and it's hard to get me to open up, even if I am paying for it, so I do feel like it is what I need. I don't like feeling like I'm being psychologically picked apart, or anything invasive like that
My first therapist was a man, specifically, a freudian psychotherapist. Paralleling your story, I told him about my misandric views and deep-rooted fear of men, and he boiled it down to me not having romantic success with boys my age. Maybe he was right, in a way, but I never had a third session with him

Words have many meanings to different people

no they don't. words have a very limited amount of meanings. gtfo with your retarded

muh limitless amount of interpretations

retardation, you shit eater. It would be fucking factually impossible to use a tool such a language to communicate IF any word would have a great many meanings to any imbeciles, because they perceive like that or some such bullshit.

If someone wants you do something for their benefit, you should be compensated for it. If you are not being compensated for it, then you are being cucked.

4channel is my therapy

will not talk to her about how badly I desire a relationship and how badly it affects my self esteem to have never had one. I certainly won't tell her some of my blackpill views

I kind of had similar reasons for going initially. My therapist is around my age and I do think she's attractive. In the beginning I was just lonely and desperate for validation from women. I thought maybe actually getting to talk to a woman would help me feel better in both regards. And it did a little but it was like trying to patch a bullet wound with a band-aid, you know? Maybe you should talk to her? I can't guarantee it'll go as well as it has for me and I did come to a lot of my conclusions outside of therapy. But it could help. All the black pill views, and your desire for female validation, and your lack of self worth. It's all interconnected, anon. I'd try to get to the root of why you feel like you need to hinge all your self worth on validation from women to begin with. It'll always be fleeting. Even if it ends up being something you can get easily.

I slept with a therapist and she didn't fix me, instead I broke her heart in a situationship. Still feel terrible about it honestly

You don't agree with the state ideology? Uhh you have a PROBLEM that has to be SOLVED, Chud. No, this won't actually improve your life or get you the things you've been deprived of, but you just have to do it because you just do ok.

What are your mysoginistic views?

Most of them hinge around sex and relationships. Since I was little, starting with my mother, I'd see women chase after abusive men. And I guess I kind of internalized the idea that women just want to be abused. That's one of the big ones I have. I'm also pretty disgusted by promiscuity in women and I tend to project that disgust onto every woman instead of looking at their individual behavior. I think I'm also kind of just controlling. When a woman's behavior doesn't meet my expectations, I would get angry and generalize all women as being like that. I always kind of just suppressed these thoughts and feelings and refused to see them as apart of myself. Something happened to me recently that made me kind of open my eyes and realize that I was just holding onto so much unwarranted hate and anger when it came to women in general and that I really needed to do something. I do try to be grounded and rational but often times I feel like my emotions get the better of me. Especially since I was just suppressing these feelings instead of actually trying to deal with them like I am now.

told him about my misandric views and deep-rooted fear of men, and he boiled it down to me not having romantic success with boys my age

That sounds like a very overly simplistic way of looking at it and it was probably a good thing you found your current therapist. She sounds pretty nice. You should try to open up to her a bit if you can. Have you talked about any of your misandrist feelings with her?

I feel like I'm being "compensated" plenty tbqh. But I still think it's pretty retarded to look at every interaction with a woman as either cucking or being cucked.

At this point, yes. I have no wife or family. Women should not be working. Both men and women should have started building the foundations together during puberty.

I'd see women chase after abusive men

Isn't this objectively true? It's fucked up but I'm pretty sure have been studies on bullies and dark triad traits that confirmed this. I don't think it means we need to hate women, but if neither women nor men can be honest about the less admirable sides of human nature, it sets us up for a world of drama and cognitive dissonance.

Even if women are more likely to seek out those kinds of men. It can't be every single one of them. I'd rather still look at them as individuals than make sweeping generalizations like that. Also I think I can understand where some women are coming from when they do things like that. If I really try to look at my life objectively. I think a lot of them are just fucked up like me. The one relationship that I managed to get, I put up so much bullshit just because I was terrified of having to go back to being alone. She never hit me or anything but if she did, I don't think I would have left her.

Because she's being political first of all, and because she's assuming things about you about muh privilege as if they were a fact instead of asking you whether you think you have advantages for being a WHITE MALE. Also, reading feminist literature is the gayest fucking thing imaginable, tell that bitch to read Norah Vincent's "Self-made man" and see what SHE thinks. Just go visit a prostitute honestly.

I'm sure that books that discuss those subjects have a bit more nuance to then that I might be more willing to accept.

lol, no they don't. See: the "Sokal affair" and the "Grievance studies affair".

I slept with a therapist and she didn't fix me, instead I broke her heart in a situationship. Still feel terrible about it honestly

This is what the foid therapists do with their Chad clients.

Anon, you're having a rational reaction to the world around you. Your therapist is gonna pathologize your very warranted disdain.

This is the most jewish thread on the board right now

I have chadlite moments but ruin everything by being schizoid. I've led a very different life

I don't really think she's being all that political and she'd be opening to hearing what I'd have to say about those things. We were just running out of time. She's not there to force me to do or believe anything.

I don't think I'm wrong for having disdain for certain women. There are bad people that are men and there are bad people that are women. I just don't want to generalize women who haven't done anything at all. It's retarded and irrational to be walking around seething about what women you don't know, do or don't do.

Just heard probably the most blackpilling thing ever and it barely even phased me. Yeah, think I'm mostly fixed, guys. Nowhere to go but up.

Just go visit a prostitute honestly.

My man, OP is obviously frequenting a whore already; don't judge him so for his weird fetish.

Maybe, I'll wait and see what my therapist recommends and evaluate her selection personally.

Just heard probably the most blackpilling thing ever and it barely even phased me

Tell us.

My friend had been talking to this girl, right. Well she seemed very nice and sweet. My friend her were getting really close well she just drops him out of nowhere. Turns out she was also talking and flirting with every other guy at work and dropped them all after her ex started talking to her again. Can't be bothered to give a shit about that tbqh

Alright anons, take care of yourselves. Think I'm done posting on here for awhile. Later.

i was about drop college and went to a free student psychologist office and met a pretty great young female therapist there it actually kinda helped me get my life in order

i do both, somewhat helps

Actually a good book suggestion. From the snippet earlier in chat, seems to be some actual advice that isn't just "get out there"