How proud of your country are you?

How proud of your country are you?

Why being proud? When my country gives me a virgin wife I'll be proud of it, otherwise they just take my money to give to poor tards

Proud of the liberal ideals upon which we were founded, ashamed of the predictable authoritarian rejection of them and being asleep at the wheel when we should have been steering away from the cliff.

I am a citizen of the world.

I like the top 20% of people everywhere and hate the bottom 80% everywhere

I live in Francistan so I am proud of my history but wish it would get nuked for good because nowadays it's just embarrassing. I don't feel proud about a single modern thing coming out of this hellhole, Clair Obscur was masonic and even if it wasn't one good vidya in the sea of ubislop isn't gonna do me any good

i like the city and the state i live in, don't care about the country
also this

I enjoy this image for the fact that I can mentally compare my penis to her body due to it being almost exactly the same length as one of those freezer pops.

I love my country, but I am ashamed of what it has become.
Just another cucked open-borders Western nation with a shit economy.

I hate my country, but if I hear foreigners talking shit about it I'll look like the most patriotic motherfucker ever.

nooooo I can't be a whore for much longer!!!!! society is becoming le fascist!!!

cry me a river

Liberal 200 years ago was more conservative than 99,9% of conservatives of today

proud

being born in a specific place is not an achievement

I'm proud of it until 1789, only garbage after that.
So actually it's kinda horrid, especially when you mixed high fiscality and mass immigration and corrupt security.

Salut, ca va?

I'm proud of it until 1789, only garbage after that.

Hey both Napoleon and De Gaulle were pretty kino all things considered. Nappy I might have single-handedly replaced most of the native French and Nappy III might have been a british puppet but at least it's interesting to read about (and he at least kept kikes out of power, until he got too lenient and got booted out). Had De Gaulle not been betrayed by Adenauer France would've been the third world power during the Cold War. We probably would still be kiked noways because the French are retards who will always vote against their interest (they claim to love De Gaulle but booted him out then proceeded to vote for not one (Pompidou), two (Giscard) but THREE (Mitterrand) historically anti-Gaullists).

The French are self-destructive. France cannot work as a democracy, yet it longs for it. They are never satisfied. They get tired of all their greatest rulers and hate being chained up. They want ararchy, nothing more. As De Gaulle would say :

The French are calves, they are good for massacre, they only get what they deserve, they have been like that since the Gauls

The French have been like this since the Gauls. Hannibal, who was recruiting legions to beat Rome, wrote to his brother Hasdrubal, who was raising mercenaries in Spain and neighboring countries: Don't take too many Gauls. They are drunkards. They are courageous in action, reckless in combat, but quickly discouraged and never satisfied

I felt like rambling

>open borders

what's a country?

not the country as a whole. sadly being proud of ones feel country feels old timey if not childish

"I'm proud of being a bitch country that opens it's legs for criminals to come in"

Hmm

Yes, I wish to be conservative of liberal ideals.

I'm Absolute Monarchist, I hate Napoleon and De Gaulle equally and despise democracy and peoples who believe in that shit.
I don't care about what retared people could want or not want, you don't ask a child if he want to go to school.

if you're not proud of your country then you're a fag. it's ridiculous that people have zero appreciation for the place they were born in when a third world country could've been another option

I propose a new branch of government just for you. It's called the "Special Boy" branch.
The "Special Boy" gets an election every year, so the media always has something to talk about. It's a popularity contest, but the "Special Boy" has no real political power. He just makes trips to North Korea, kisses babies, throws opening pitches at baseball games, all the fun stuff that the president normally does. This will free up the president to focus on governing. So, you'll have the Executive, Legislative, Judicial, and "Special Boy" branches.
Rome fell because they didn't have a "Special Boy."

funny to read, but I don't want "special boy".

The Roman Republic fell to the empire even though observers thought that Rome had escaped anacyclosis. You might scoff at the phrasing, but there is real critical thinking applied here on how to escape modern anacyclosis. Even if you got a monarchy, it would be doomed to anacyclosis just like democracy.

Well Emperors are monarchs and De Gaulle tried to restore the monarchy but Henri D'Orleans wasn't competent enough : youtube.com/watch?v=K0ykKqMfONo

La Republique n'est pas le regime qui convienne a la France. Si la France doit vivre, alors la Monarchie aura son role

Le regret de ma vie, c'est de ne pas avoir fait de monarchie, qu'il n'y ait pas eu un membre de la maison de France pour cela. En realite, j'ai ete un monarque pendant dix ans

Ya can't just blindly hate on anybody's who's not a monarchist, especially when it's monarchs who brought the end of the inevitable end of monarchy.
Louis XIV laid the foundations of the modern nation-state by gradually replacing feudal logic with a centralized administration, a planned economy, and a cult of the reason of state. Greatly mentally 'protestantising' France and preparing it for the Revolution.

Rambling incoming :

There are two types of society: traditional society, perceived as organic and based on the extended family (tribes, feudal hierarchies), which people correlate with 'old school' monarchies, and modern society, which is based on a social contract--an abstraction that makes it possible to manage large and heterogeneous populations. The major difference lies in scale: a traditional society, centered on family or local ties, becomes dysfunctional once it exceeds a certain demographic threshold (a few thousand individuals). For example, a gathering of 30,000 people can no longer be "familial" and requires a different mode of organization.

In the 18th century, France had a population of 30 million (an exceptional number for the time--it was called the China of Europe). Politically unified under Louis XIV, it remained structured by traditional systems (feudalism, regional disparities). However, this "organic" organization became inadequate for its size, leading to administrative and social inconsistencies. Rousseau, in The Social Contract, said that there was a need for a shift to a contract-based society: to avoid collapse, hierarchical and familial ties had to be replaced by universal and abstract rules, applicable to all citizens regardless of their origins.

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This transition followed an earlier economic change: the emergence of joint-stock companies (as in the Netherlands or Venice). These economic structures, born from the need to finance costly ventures (like maritime expeditions), replaced family-run businesses with groups of investors who had no organic ties. The written contract became essential to guarantee commitments between strangers. This egalitarian logic (where power depends on the number of shares, not family status) later influenced politics: modern democracy draws inspiration from this model, replacing traditional hierarchies with contractual rules.

Traditional societies, while suited to smaller scales, are incapable of managing the complexity of modern nations. The social contract and abstract equality (despite their flaws) are necessary responses to the aggregation of millions of individuals. Thus, identity-based discourse advocating a return to the past ignores the irreversibility of this evolution, driven by demographic and functional imperatives.

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We elected the 6 time bankrupted, grandson of a whoremongerer, and son of a slum lord twice. There were so many more well qualified republican candidates who would have supported conservative policies without throwing the country down the drain and handing the world to China through incompetence.

the issue is appreciation isnt as far as proud. at least i wouldnt consider them the same

Ok, First I need to say I don't want to write texts messages until 3 AM on Anon Babble so I will not answer to you at a certain moment, if I see I'm just wasting my time with you okay?

So now, are you blind or don't know how to read? I'm an ABSOLUTE monarchist, and I think I need to add, Absolute monarchist by divine right (Catholic), counter-revolutionary and against parliamentarism and constitutionalism.

So now, do you understand why your point about speaking about Henri D'Orleans is stupid?
De Gaulle was a slut for the republic and sold his ass to Jews and commies. A big part of the Gaullist population in France in 1944-1945 was communist(their real nation was the USSR for them), and De Gaulle let them do what we call "Epuration," and they killed and put in prison anyone who didn't fit the new narrative.
I mostly prefer Petain, even if the French political figure I prefer during this period is Henry Coston.

Also, I'm not against centralization; only retards want decentralization.

I am an ABSOLUTE monarchist

Cool, read what I wrote

I mostly prefer Petain

Yes I figured you'd side with the guy who knelt down to suck big US cocks for as long as possible. Oh but he was le trad, and was friends with le Nazis. A good reminder, if you are pro-Nazism, that you cannot be a pro-Nazi and French, Maurras himself distributed French translations of Mein Kampf and Hitler brought him to justice over it because of how Francophobic it was. Hitler wasn't against the French Republic and for the Monarchy, he was against the French nation.

I'm the one here who just realized he's wasting his time because it's the exact same arguments, copy-pasted from Anon Babble everytime. The fact that you're sperging about the fact that a lot of Gaullist were communists shows that you're not worth arguing with. Do you even know what the point of Gaullism was? I like how people bring up the epuration as if it was le big holocaust when De Gaulle himself did his best to reduce bloodshed to a minimum, especially in terms of public trials (to set a precedent that now it's time to move), and only using a few cases as examples. He only pragmatically did what was best to keep his support, but since commies were on his side during the war that must mean he's in cahoots with the Jews. (And let's conveniently not mention his Presidency because that would require reading at least one biography about him, and we can't do that)
France today would be even less relevant without De Gaulle, we would have lost the war, probably even lost territories. Petain was an incompetant who sucked up to the americans for as long as possible.

Now stop with the HRT, it's making you antsy, and if you've got not original thoughts on your own it's better to sit down and listen, I don't wanna be wasting my time talking with somebody who's here to win an argument instead of having a discussion

When my country gives me a virgin wife I'll be proud of it

would you feel like an asshole if you just didn't know how to get to the virgin wife store? but people really wanted you to stick around?

Traditional societies, while suited to smaller scales, are incapable of managing the complexity of modern nations.

false, the kikes and the masons brainwash you to think that.
Don't expect me to be agree with you

inb4 "B-but that's the truth you are an idiot"

No it's not, and go fuck yourself with your social contract.
Do you think Rousseau have an authority or any valour for me?
You speak about "evolution" but it's not an evolution, that's a fucking regression.
And I see you are someone who give too much care about the numbers of peoples like we need to take it in consideration.
No we don't need to, except for making fiscality but that's all.
There are peoples who are superior to other by blood and other inferior, it's not abstract when anyone can notice that even in our actual time period.

Go read Marion Sigaut "De la centralisation monarchique a la revolution bourgeoise, l'absolutisme royal et ses opposants" She's a leftist like a lot of modern French historians, but you will see that it's mostly because some people don't apply certain orders and laws from the King that problems happen.

Very thought-provoking answer, really convinced me. Thanks for the book thoughever, will read it

Cool, read what I wrote

Lmao the nerve you have here to say that faggot.

he was le trad, and was friends with le Nazis

I prefer Petain, I didn't say I was a Petainist. Petain put a lot of Masons inside his administrations (Le Corbusier and Pierre Laval, for example) while saying he despised them.

you cannot be a pro-Nazi and French

Ask to the LVF and Charlemagne Division.

Maurras himself

I'm not Maurrasian.

"Hitler this Hitler that"

Hitler can think everything he wants; he did a great job for Germany and his country.
The form his arguments could take was something else; moreover, he was not wrong to have a grudge against what he considered to be France, of which he did not, unfortunately, make the distinction between the real France and the republic.

the fact that a lot of Gaullist were communists shows that you're not worth arguing with.

Lmao so why are you answering me then faggot?

not original thoughts on your own

C'est beau ca. Between you and me, who are following the basic narrative actually by defending De Gaulle and even saying that if I despise De Gaulle, you will not talk with me anymore, huh?
You literally have a woman or a Jewish behavior actually. What will you say next? that I am "too offensive and problematic"?

sit down and listen

I prefer stand and punch faggot like you in the face actually.

I don't wanna be wasting my time talking with somebody who's here to win an argument instead of having a discussion

Are you fucking serious? You're the one who started it, lmao.
I'm literally the one who said about not caring about what the vast majority of retards are thinking or about taking care about their opinions.
I'm not here to win something, just to mass post facts when the subject is brought up to radicalize people.
I don't care about you or your opinion, but you seem to care about mine.

Arguments: 0

Impressive, very nice. Let's see how far that gets you. Nice dodging though, 10/10. You coulda just ignored it after I was clearly done with you but you clearly had to humiliate yourself one more time.
And then you wonder why I don't want to argue anymore lmao. As soon as you're challenged on the Anon Babble narrative you instantly break down.
The good thing is that we now both know I'm your intellectual superior. I to think I tried to be nice

I to think

And to think*
I'm so good at owning scrubs I own myself

Enough that I don't feel ashamed of posting on Anon Babble with it.

I moved to the US from Venezuela about 7 years ago with my parents and sisters. I am a citizen now for 2 years, but my sisters already went and moved to the Netherlands and Austria, saying they were much better.
My parents hate it here, too.
Only reason I stay is because I am still in college and have an internship through school that starts in September. I will be working in Japan for 3-5 years. Hopefully I get a japanese waifu and live there

from Venezuela

go back, pest, and stop fucking up the rest of the civilized world