You will always be the "safe" option

"I settled for you because I wanted to get married."

How does a marriage move forward from this? It's like saying "our marriage is not a real marriage." Is it possible they could keep it together for the kids or financial reasons?

Is it possible they could keep it together for the kids or financial reasons?

Yes because the alternative is divorce-rape.

at that point the filter comes off and you see you're effectively getting kidnapped and extorted for the rest of your life.
Want out? half of your stuff (at best) gets thanos snapped to her bank account. home? hers. kids? hers. car? hers. half your pay? hers

Many such cases. No refunds.
I don't even really feel sorry for him; there would have been endless signs of this but his desire to cope was just too strong.

This is so heart breaking why would someone say something so cruel? This is why I'm so afraid of women, there's all of these horror stories and my heart could never take such abuse. It truely must be better to be alone as painful as that is.

only issue is that he loved her genuinely, if he remembered to hate all women all the time no matter what this wouldn't be a problem

b-b-but she's his wife, he's supposed to love her with all his heart and she's supposed to love him with all her heart... it's so sad that it never seems to work out this way

It is better to stay alone.

Rosties just treat men this way, you'll get used to it.

and so it is :'(

Didn't read a word of your low quality rage bait pic / 10

Growing up my dad was a piece of shit alcoholic with 7 DUIs who blew my college fund paying off his court fees and fucking every white trash woman that moved into our apartment complex. My mom, however, genuinely cared about me, but was prone to dating abusive men. According to her I talked her out of dating a guy who beat her when I was like 5. As I got older and more aware of how shit my dad was, how shit the men she dated were, and how shit the other men in my life were and how often people complained about men, I took it upon myself to never be like them. I worked on myself for years to become selfless and altruistic and understanding. People have said I'm one of the most earnest and caring people they've ever met. I'm still horrifically alone and miserable now though, because despite everyone saying that, everyone has always disappointed me, or betrayed me, or otherwise made my life worse, if they gave me the time of day at all. I took a "turn the other cheek" approach for a long time because I internalized it as me having fucked up somehow and just needing to figure out how. But then the girl of my dreams cheated on me and I went into the worst depressive slump I've ever been in. My ex-best friend tried to get involved and made things worse. When my mom caught on, I told her everything that happened, and she started telling me about her views on dating. Her current boyfriend is the opposite of all her others; meek, awkward, shy. She outright told me "he wasn't my first choice, but he was my best choice". She then went on to explain how she'd turned down the only good guy in her life over and over for years because she thought she didn't deserve him, and this guy was the closest she found once she got over herself. What I had internalized as her trying to help shitty men get better was her being shallow and stupid. And she admitted this all to me in an effort to COMFORT me.

I'm not even an option. I haven't talked to a woman in my age range in almost a year.

Based and true. Dude with the "I don't want to die alone" mentality to marrying a roastie to divorce rape pipeline.

I swear some men must have the patient of saints and the lack of will of a beaten dog. If your spouse ever says that shit to you, I'd want to launch myself across the room and deliver a weapons grade bitch slap and tell her to never say some shit like that ever again, tell her that she was a no good whore who should keep her mouth shut about other men.

Damn your parents sound awfully based ngl

I honestly think there were signs this numale was ignoring because it benefited him at the time.

in almost a year.

o wow how are you gonna survive bro woooow a year woooo holy crap wooooah wowie that's a long time wow

Right, the safe option she should've chosen but will never get. She can enjoy single motherhood.

people tell you that you are a selfless good guy to manipulate you into doing good things for them without compensating you because it manipulates your reward system. My time as a Zogbot taught me this the only way to avoid this is to do the following

Only respond to negative reinforcement and disassociate when people give you compliments about how "great you are"

never work for free

don't be a free agent in life

I don't think I could hurt my wife, if I ever get one, but if she said that to me I think it would kill me. It would mean my whole world was a lie, it's basically saying she doesn't love you. I'd probably shoot myself.

The issue with any of that is becoming entirely self serving and doing nothing for free doesn't get me anything I want. Doing what I've been doing wouldn't either, but getting a shit job or even managing to get on neetbux and just becoming a hedonistic slob doesn't appeal to me. If I was content with that I already would've been doing it. I did what I did because I was told it'd get me what I want. Roping seems like the only recourse, really.

You do know you can avoid all this in the first place by taking the time to actually analyze your relationship with women in order to filter out the bad ones? Instead of just rushing into things. I promise you the guy in OP ignored every red flag possible.

She outright told me "he wasn't my first choice, but he was my best choice". She then went on to explain how she'd turned down the only good guy in her life over and over for years because she thought she didn't deserve him, and this guy was the closest she found once she got over herself. What I had internalized as her trying to help shitty men get better was her being shallow and stupid.

This world is a hell.

as long as male cuckmonkey niggercattle continues to fall for "provider virtues" then it will continue to happen (until sexbots of course).

men shouldn't tolerate transactional relationships with no sacred twinflame soul bond dynamics

this is what happens when you marry a woman who can only comprehend these two "relationships":

degenerate one night stand lust

and

"""""""mature""""""" transactional marriage contract

settling is a genuine humiliation ritual with an abundance of unconscious cuckoldry

fundamentally can't accept these basic facts

Ok, you're reaching right now.
You don't need to be a selfish bastard(your life would be better if you were) but you have to recognize most people just want to use you up without giving back.
Not everything has to be done for money.
When people see that you won't bend to their bullshit they will actually respect you and love you more for who you are

here's what's going to happen if you're """""""lucky""""""" and """""""""score""""""""

She will see you as a temporary thing. She even knows it but won't tell you.

She will not perceive time spent with you as spiritual, exploratory and intimate. No pure innocent 'butterflies in stomach' love. it will be routine and transactional for her. All the romantic rituals will just be her going through the motions. You will be compared to exes like cattle.

Then you will proceed to be "LE SAD" when she ends the "relationship" thus contributing the unnecessary "power" women have over hetero dating culture.

Modern culture has had a war on commited soulmate monogamy and social media has effectively flanderized dating dynamics into cartoonish levels of gynocentric courting. We have millions of men who actually thinks dating is about """impressing""" the whore

it can all be changed though. and it all involves the elimination of gynocentrism from the collective soul via willpower and the destruction of social media

You will never fuck her, never kiss her, never even get to hug her, your just a disposable atm/future alimony slave you low test retard

THIS IS WHY BODYCOUNTS MATTER JFL

Most hypergamous people can NOT offer true love emotionally. their "experiences" has already numbed them spiritually and reduced their meaning of love into soullessness.

"betabux" relationships are a demonic mockery of young love and any ideal romance. it is especially mocking and humiliating to the ones who've never experienced a proper emotionally overwhelming soul-bond.

How could one lack the self-respect enough to get into a relationship with a female that doesn't love you the way that you love her? What the fuck are these people doing? There is nothing forcing them into being involved in a soulless, one sided, uneven and transactional relationship.

If you have to "pursue" or "carry" every thing then cut them off. It should not be tolerated. Being a male-cattle servant should not be tolerated.

Look at the shit that's tolerated these days.

"teehee we're not ""exclusive"" yet so i'm going to see other guys because I don't actually love you and I will still expect you to impress me like a court jester"

"I perceive this relationship as ""giving you a chance"" because I'm higher than you!"

Solitude is objectively preferable to this godless dynamic. And If you disagree you are godless niggercattle

Sure, but I think it would be easy to experience the halo effect and miss red flags if you are in love. This is why intamacy is so scary and I think I'm probably better of leaving it as a hypothetical thing.

You're right about all of this but there's 2 issues. One is that I WAS recognizing that most people would just use me for nothing in return. I kept my distance and looked for people who seemed genuinely caring based on how they acted towards others. On top of that I got really into psych and started autistically trying to decipher why people do shit, and got really good at it. What fucks it all up is people like my mom - she DOES care about me. She is legitimately just vapid and dumb, so she doesn't understand the issues with what she's saying. The best way to sell a lie is to fully believe it yourself. The lie can be kept up for years just because the right situation hasn't cropped up for them to reveal their true shallowness. I will always have to second guess every single interaction forever now.
On top of that, I was already known for being somewhat of a contrarian and argumentative. I didn't stand for peoples bullshit. I stood up for others if I thought they deserved it. I've made extremely fair demands of people who wronged me. They just have never delivered or even attempted. If I were to cut out every single person from my life who's failed to treat me with any real respect I'd have only 2 people in it, both of whom are just as depressed and existential as I am, and neither of them people I could or would have a relationship with.

I truly pity men who don't know what it's like to actually have a woman attracted to you. They're the ones who fall most easily for the faking of affection and who get taken advantage of. There's no substitute for actual, deeply-felt attraction.

Didn't read a word of your low quality rage bait pic / 10

check

You're a cuck. Nono didn't get played and neither should you.

it would be easy to experience the halo effect and miss red flags if you are in love.

Correct, which is why you wait out the honeymoon phase. After that your brain goes back to its baseline, and then you start to notice the flaws and cracks of a person. The real version of them, and thats when you can make a decision of whether you want to move forward and give this person your heart or cut your losses.

Take a rational and methodical approach to this, and I promise you will save yourself a lot of heartache lmfao

Lmao did your mom tell you you will never have a chance essentially ?

I think that happens at first but once you realize you're just being manipulated you get a bone deep bitterness that prevents it from happening again.

She was trying to explain to me that the girl who cheated on me was probably just self hating and pushing me away because despite also being her ideal man (she's bi, cheated on me with a woman) she thought she didn't deserve me. It's probably true but it's also fucking retarded. The girl tried to sell me some shit about "if we're both single in 5 years, lets get married" and all this other stuff about how much she regretted it and still loved me but she was still fucking the same girl and fast tracked the relationship in a week and wouldn't leave her.

Maybe try to avoid cluster B bitches in the future. Might help :)

Alot of white men are brainwashed into being sexual eunuchs so do not realize a roastie acting like stone age monkey in the heat means she actually likes you, a roastie simply being nice to you means you are being manipulated,

Marriage is in itself a safe option. Why do men never think they settle too?

I'm bipolar and feel alienated by anyone without a fucked upbringing and some degree of mental illness. Plus most people just never get shit diagnosed and there's insane overlap with BPD and both DPD and schizo shit that the whole thing basically doesn't matter. I would have to find a woman who's as mindbroken as me but who was smart and also worked on themselves instead of just expecting everyone to do everything for them. A literal needle in a haystack and I don't even know where the haystack is.

Lol. Lmao
Such is life for the man of the 21st century