How do men still get married?

How does society still convince men to get married?

-->TOXIC NAZI RETARDS ARE SUCH VICTIMS, YAAAAAAAY

You're discussing the necessity of two breadwinners. The economy plays a transient role, but in reality, it's simply not feasible to be a girl boss and a mother at the population level. There's an opportunity cost to higher education and a career - that is the opportunity to have a child. That's an ideological problem.

The only sustainable model is a stay-at-home wife and a working husband.

Also, just because you are married doesn't mean you have to have a kid tehe~

I'm not interested in self-destructive ideologies.

what was your personality detector broken? woman brain

Ask me how I know

You don't know and you come off as a bpd

it's simply not feasible to be a girl boss and a mother at the population level

Nannies are a thing that exists.

I'm not interested in self-destructive ideologies.

Yet you are preaching one. At least be honest, the stay-at-home person should be whoever the breadwinner is, and not just the husband. The fact that you said your husband just shows that you aren't pushing a realistic ideology but a conservative one. There a reason why conservative had to turn to facism just to get their way of life out there and it's because no one want it.

How does society still convince men to get married?

Society didn't convince me to do it. I don't care what society says. I just figured it out on my own after a long time.

a 50/50 chance (or worse) of losing EVERYTHING

I'm pretty sure that's a dumb American thing that you can get a so called prenup for? Learned this watching Desperate Housewives.

what was your personality detector broken

No, she was completely and entirely normal. Had a solid career before she went to start her own business. She was great, but not too great, there were ups-and-downs without meltdowns or love-bombing, etc. Her personality wasn't dissimilar from the non-BPD women I've been in relationships with.

You don't know and you come off as a bpd

My ex-wife was diagnosed by two different psychiatrists (she wanted a second opinion) with BPD. I left her because I was losing myself.

How does society still convince men to get married?

"This could never happen to ME, I'M DIFFERENT"
Illusion of invulnerability or main character syndrome as kids call it nowadays.

What could make them do it twice?

Severe mental retardation, delusion and desperation

nannies can carry a pregnancy to term, breastfeed, and are a surrogate for a parent

Kek.

the stay-at-home person should be whoever the breadwinner is

Only one sex can take on the physiological burden of rearing a child.

There a reason why conservative had to turn to facism

Plot the trend. In a century, fascists will walk south over the Korean DMZ and proclaim South Korea to simply be Korea. There will be nobody to oppose them. The 20 remaining geriatric South Korean girl bosses will welcome fascism.

pushing a realistic ideology but a conservative one

Conservatives don't need to push anything, you are wiping yourselves out for them.

They take everything regardless of if you're the only income or not lol

Conservatives don't need to push anything, you are wiping yourselves out for them.

Lol said like a person who thinks there are only left and right. It's also funny you said this while making your own coutry so weak china will just simple take over.

> Nannies can carry a pregnancy to term, breastfeed, and are a surrogate for a parent, huh, who said anything about surrogacy? All this tells me is that you're a child who's never had a real job and doesn't know what maternity leave is.

Plot the trend. In a century, fascists will walk south over the Korean DMZ and proclaim South Korea to simply be Korea. There will be nobody to oppose them. The 20 remaining geriatric South Korean girl bosses will welcome fascism.

You should take your meds. Also, North korea can't do shit.

Don't cheat on your wife and have a prenup. Also, what you said is literally what a traditional stay-at-home wife is. It's you do all the work and your wife spends all the money.

"Oh my ex-husband was actually very abusive in the relationship, he threatened to leave me unless I signed the prenup, I couldn't say no!"

man gets rekt anyways because he's in a word-against-word situation where his opp is a woman.

Society is a pyramid scheme. Where are the newest generation of South Korean children? Their newest generation of workers, soldiers, politicians? They simply don't exist. You cannot actually think that the ghosts of South Korean roasties will hold the front forever?

Are you seriously dumb enough to think that a non-existent population will... continue to exist?

Also, just because you are married doesn't mean you have to have a kid.

It's kinda pointless though. If you and your spouse aren't going to have a kid, just co-habitate. It's way cheaper and less complicated.

Prenups are thrown out by many judges, they're basically a "please don't force me into poverty" note for the judge
There's no consequences for a judge throwing out a prenup, and unfortunately most family court judges are misandrists

I did not say a single fucking thing about single income or being a traditional household
Like said, prenups are fucking useless and thrown out all the time

don't cheat

Ever heard of no fault divorce? The man still gets divorce raped no matter what

Dunno what's that guy bitching about. That room looks well kept and modern, and he has big windows.

Prenups are thrown out by many judges, they're basically a "please don't force me into poverty" note for the judge

There's no consequences for a judge throwing out a prenup, and unfortunately most family court judges are misandrists

Family Court Lawyer James Sexton disagrees with this. He said he had a client whose prenup said his wife forfeits money if she gets fat, and the judges upheld it. Studies say approx 2% of prenups get thrown out.

If you ask a woman to sign a prenup its basically telling her "I don't trust you, and think you're likely to steal all my shit in a few years." I feel like almost every woman I've talked to about prenups has said if a guy asked her to sign one, she would break up with him and find someone else.

This post is literally beta maleness personified. You feel you don't have the negotiating leverage to ask for a prenup, so you project that onto all men.

That room looks well kept and modern,

$500 rent in the middle of nowhere and an hour away from even the shittiest job he can find.
Might rather still be married, but maybe not.

Notice how you brought up an anecdote and either did not, or choose not to include the fact that judges face ZERO repercussions for throwing out prenups?

Well I wouldn't know because I'm not American, but as someone who can't support himself financially yet and has shitty living arrangements, I wish I could live somewhere quiet and decent looking like that.

It's only a 50/50 if you're retarded

Nigger, there are legit multimillionaire supermodels, actors, and GOAT athletes with kids that have gotten fucked off by divorce.
This mentality that "if you're a chad or in control, you have nothing to worry about" is so fucking stupid to argue by this point/

Americans being retarded again. What a surprise. Prenups. Tipping. Guns. All the same. They would be non-issues if you weren't retarded.

Where do you find 500 rent?

Marriage became a meme once it became an industrial complex

But I thought the Nazis were incels
Are the Nazis incels or are the Nazis getting married

I firmly believe that MAGA and far-right target incels.

How does society still convince men to get married?

From what the normies I work with have said, they want someone to do house chores and childcare.

What could compel a man to take a 50/50 chance (or worse) of losing EVERYTHING they've ever worked for?

Most normies have nothing saved and make zero wealth building progress because they are consumerist idiots. 59% of americans don't even have $1k saved. So they don't really care if they lose everything because there isn't much to lose anyway.

What could make them do it twice?

Mental weakness. Thinking this time will be different. Same mechanic that drives people to become addicted to slot machines.

not demonizing a demographic is targeting them

Okay

I firmly believe you are a retarded nigger and a tranny

Selling them misinformation in order to get a vote is. Which is what exactly happened.

How does society still convince men to get married?

the average man is clueless when it comes to dating

Name em

They also might just hate the left more than they like the right

Emotions are bad, Traditionalism is the only way to have a relationship, marriage, and what women want. Helll man look how the right attack the left on their view of toxic masculinity vs mascunlinty. You actually believe that hiting your wife makes you a man?

Emotions are bad

If you're trying to attract a woman, yeh

Traditionalism is the only way to have a relationship, marriage, and what women want

Trad life worked, still works, and who cares what women want

You actually believe that hiting your wife makes you a man?

This is just Islam.

You actually believe that hiting your wife makes you a man?

So you hate brown people?

And no fucking retarded has understood, that your fpbp btw means

factual chance of getting a divorce in 2025 approaches 100% at the speed of light

this board is filled with braindead normies indeed.

I hate all people who beat their wives. I don't hate just one group of people.

who cares what women want

This is why you guys are alone. Also, I was in the war. I know Islam just into boyfucking.

This is why you guys are alone.

you guys

I'm not an incel though?

Yet no ring

I don't want to get married in the West, not until the laws are reformed
I'm okay with banging girls until I get sick of them, in the meantime.

I hate all people who beat their wives

Okay just say you are a racist and can't tolerate other cultures.

I'm okay with banging girls until I get sick of them, in the meantime.

It's middle of a monday afternoon on a monday and you are on Anon Babble. You aren't banging anyone buddy.

you're on Anon Babble so you must be a loser

Okay okay, now do the one where I don't have a job and live in my mom's basement or whatever

My husband bought me a house, I will look after him when he's old
win/win

Say you're racist

I said beating your wife is bad. You're the one who thought of a racial group. What do they say about you.
Why would i think you have a Mcjob and you probably think it's a real job. My guess is that you are the type of person who's right now watching his friends who you thought were lesser than you. Pass you by in every life goal, measurable. I bet the last time you hung out with "the boys." you felt really out of place when they were talking about their careers.

Married men live longer and despite girl power feminism memes, women basically do everything around the house. It's a pretty good deal. Men basically get married, get super fat and just sit around and let their wife do everything. Most women won't even leave if they get cheated on because they care so much about appearances.

He thinks that actually matters when it comes to who gets what in the divorce

Are you retarded?

have a prenup

Fuck me you are you retarded, a judge can literally throw out a prenup just because they feel like it.

All you did was repeat the shit red pill people say.

What do they say about you.

Usually that I'm based.

trying to Good Will Hunting me

Not only are you dead wrong, you're a massive faggot

You dead wrong

Prove it then

Not him but we all know incels lie all the time.

So do leftists

my guess is you're in your mid 50s, balding and either divorced or in a sexless marriage

You just repeated the truth

Yes, I accept your concession, retard.

He's in such an impotent rage he's making fanfiction now

Holy shit lel.

Nope 19, full head of hair and not sexless. Still no proof.

leftists

So do rightists but that's besides the point

Nope 19, full head of hair and not sexless

Post proof or you're lying.

I asked you first. Also, I'm not going to post myself having sex. You would want to see a young guy fucking pervert.

I want everyone in this thread to think about this logically.

Imagine you're signing a business contract with a partner. That contract talks about how you'll work together to build your company together. However, at the end of the contract, it says "If this contract is broken, and the contract breaker is female, they will receive thousands and thousands of dollars in alimony and assets from the man who upheld his side of the contract."

Would anyone sign this business contract? Would anyone sign a legally-binding business contract that says "If I break this contract, I receive half your money and assets"?

A wife can cheat and still divorce-rape the husband, stealing thousands of dollars in money and assets from him.

The only way to have actual happiness as an adult is to get married and raise children. It is worth the risk.

most incels are left-leaning thoughever

Not only is he making fanfiction about other posters he's making fanfiction about his own life

This is actually disgusting, you are a fat gay retard larping desperately to cope.

Every retard thinks his experience will be different and it only happens to inkwell chuds and it will never happen to him

lmao good point

In my state, any assets you own before the start of the relationship cannot be lost in divorce/alimony. I already bought my house, so if I ever get married I cannot lose it unless I put my (hypothetical) wife's name on the deed. I'd make a will leaving it to her in case I died, but no chance I ever add somebody else's name to the deed. Not that it matters anyways, because

tfw no gf

yeah that's what I thought you old bald fatass.

None of the people you listed are smart. They excel in fields where you specifically do not need to be smart to succeed.

In what world? Incel philosphy is steeped in conservatism.

How do they decide who gets fucked over when lesbians divorce?

Lol all you doing is proving me right. You will do everything in your power not to post proof.

the sperm donor
this isn't even a joke

Incel philosphy

It's just a status, not a philosophy
Thinking like this is what makes retards like you call a man with 14 kids an incel.

Anyone who's ever argued with someone of your age will know sometimes the best thing to do is to let them believe they're right.

How Incels view sex and women is 1x1 of conservatism's view of women and sex.

state mandated gfs

work is le wageslavery

gibs me neetbux while normies go to the wagie cagie

sexual market is too competitive it needs regulations

Just from the top of my head.
also

unironically calling inceldom a "philosophy"

ishygddt

I doubt this is true in any way but your own headcanon

I will look after him when he's old

win/win
You mean after the house, right?

How Incels view sex and women is 1x1 of conservatism's view of women and sex.

That's not true.
The traditional view is that a man should take care of his woman and provide for her and their children. Most incels just want a breathing sex doll or a "mommy gf" to slave away for them while they play bing bing wahoos and piss in bottles
Their view of seeing women as nothing more than walking cocksleeves is in fact more in view with Marxism. During the Russian Revolution within the Bolshevik movement someone came up with a brilliant idea: to destroy the institution of marriage, make husbands give up their wives and make all women freely accessible to all men, so if some dude needed his balls emptied a woman had to spread her legs for him cause she was public propert-*ahem* doing her patriotic duty in the class struggle. That idea didn't last too long obviously. That's not very different from the kind of sexual fantasies you can find on this shithole.

Married men live longer

It's just a higher life expectancy, not longer lifespan
This has multiple factors as to why this is
It's bullshit, basically

I'm not the one making fanfiction about myself or others, I don't have to post "proof" of claims I never made, fuck me you are mentally handicapped.

>regressive biological theories to argue that men should have power over women.

women lie, so that means every woman on planet earth has the same 50% probability of lying about commitment

Are you mentally retarded or something? Even if you believe in social science statistics because you are an underage, uneducated buffoon, the statistics show that you have less than 20% chance of divorce if you marry a woman with a bachelors degree. less than a 12% chance of divorce if you marry at the appropriate age and are white. less than 8% chance of divorce if you live in a high trust or religious community.

of all the thousands of people i worked with or know personally from growing up, i have in my life heard about maybe 10-15 divorces ever, and far more separations because one of the spouses just died prematurely of cancer or whatever. you are simply a clown who probably lives in a ghetto.

I think it is worth considering how those rare happy marriages start and last as well as what factors lead to those marriages. Seems getting married before 24 and both parties being virgins spikes your chances of success very high, also compounding factors of going through some sort of detailed vetting like marriage counseling or at least your pastor to wed you doing comparable. Obviously the two biggest factors are how well do you balance the intensity to want it as well as the willingness to keep going through partners until you find the right one.

That all said if you are over 25 and still haven't married, yeah, pack it the fuck up and quit, the data is not in your favor in the least.

You literally claimed so many things about yourself and yet won't provide proof.

yfw when "biology" is a progressive concept

Thats part of it, yes

The traditional view is that a man should take care of his woman and provide for her and their children. Most incels just want a breathing sex doll or a "mommy gf" to slave away for them while they play bing bing wahoos and piss in bottles

That the same thing that's >regressive biological theories to argue that men should have power over women.

Their view of seeing women as nothing more than walking cocksleeves is in fact more in view with Marxism

Being a cocksleeve isn't different then being a trophy.
The left is ok with women not being virgins. Guess which two groups think women should be pure?

I mean a win's a win.

Ah but if it does work out then you have two incomes for one household. Two people pooling their resources together, will always be better off financially as long as they stick together. In the modern economy you need two people together to buy a home. Or else you'll just rent forever and make someone else rich at your expense. All the money you pay for a mortgage, you get back or even double that when you sell it. All household duties and maintenance are halved as well. There is a real payoff if you are on the good side of the 50/50 gamble. I get why people take the chance.

the thing about the conclusions drawn from data and the parameters selected for are trash.

muh age

muh social norm

muh arrangement

it's POOP.
What matters is two people, preferably modern adults, but not a must, going

I want to actually build a family and have children and I will work on that with my partner, and I will never betray or cheat, because bad actions don't lead to the image of the family I have in mind in OUR future.

And guess what, most people don't like that, don't set goals like that, and don't give a shit about it. No to mention that they don't want to do shit, let alone work on building a family and a relationship over decades. I'm not saying fuck them, but this is why they'll never have a good family. Marrying for reasons outside of that mindset and outlook, and willpower, is just cope or show or shallow stupid action. Or men being lied to as anons point out.
TL;DR: An individual MUST want to live a a family life with children free of deceit, dishonest, infidelity, and cheating. Then they must find the individual with the same vision, goals, mindset of the opposite sex. Otherwise it'll always be a fail.

That the same thing that's >regressive biological theories to argue that men should have power over women.

Incels don't have a "biological theory", they just want to fuck. They want the government to give them a gf cause the cannot compete in the free sexual market.

Being a cocksleeve isn't different then being a trophy.

We both now this is bullshit. Come on now, low effort attempt.

The left is ok with women not being virgins

Yeah and incels don't give a shit about female virginity. It's just sour grapes, if they got the chance to fuck they wouldn't give a shit if the chick is a virgin or not. If we are to believe any stories that are posted here, I've never read a single story where an incel got to lose his v-card with his perfect virgin gf.

Kek, based commies. Sounds better than the cuckservative fantasy of men dying in wars so muh heckerino precious ladies can stay safe.
"Traditional" women paid back the men who fought and died in WW1 and WW2 with feminism and leftism.

You just repeated

the two biggest factors are how well do you balance the intensity to want it as well as the willingness to keep going through partners until you find the right one.

but in a much more seething way

You just repeated

No, not quite. I'm pointing out, that most men don't want it too. It's the fantasy vs reality. Reality harsh and cruel, hard and exhausting. And people just choose themselves over a partnership and esp. over children. Birth rates do not lie. Not even the craziest semen demons are very successful with babytraps over the past 5 years to a decade or so.

but in a much more seething way

I think what I said is smarter men understand and know this, and stay single willingly. Even choose the celibate way of life.
There are a myriad of reasons as to why this is a damn near impossible future and

bitch lied

is but one tiny reason.

How do men still get married?

thankfully it's becoming increasingly rare

In the modern economy you need two people together to buy a home.

More propaganda from the "children are heckin too expensive" crowd
I'm a homeowner and I live alone.
It's... quite nice.

But women like assholes? It's been prove time after time that women are turned on by toxic "dark triad" personality traits.

Kids need taught this in school.
>No fault divorce is bad m'kay

Because most people are stupid, shortsighted, and ruled by emotions. Our lizard brain convinces us that this woman is the perfect fit for us, even if we've already fucked up once and told other guys not to be careless with women. Pretty much any man that has had sex has been there. I've been there. Even against my better knowledge, I made stupid mistakes because my dimbass thought it would mean something to a woman.

I come here as a warning to all the lonely and bitter virgins on this board, DO NOT try to make it. Be true to yourself because if ou can even manage to get with a woman, which is probably easier than you'll expect, it will make your life 10x worse than being a lonely nerd. I've been there. I was a neet for most of my late teens and early 20s, and a virgin until my late 20s. I thought I would never find love. Then I did, and then it ruined me.

Low test losers who have brains that need a stupid bitch to feel complete or some garbage, you would think after the first divorce a guy would be too misogynistic to register women as anything but demons

A lot of people have low pattern recognition skills. Or will outright ignore that part of their brain because it's "mean"