Why are kids so apathetic nowadays? The things my teacher friend tells me are bleak as fuck. All they do is just use their phone, sleep, and eat.
Even if she just gives them the answers, the worksheet still ends up on the ground, unfinished. And these are high school juniors she teaches.
I at least wanted to get my drivers license, make money, date, etc. The levels of apathy I am hearing about is wild.
this is what happens when you raise kids on addictive devices that destroy their dopamine receptors and now those fucked up receptors can only feel something from those devices
Let me guess, thou art from Amerika?
we had games when i was a kid
Why are kids so apathetic nowadays?
in america? because the society is disintegrating?
They have everything given to them so they don't have any appreciation of hard work.
worksheet
Br*t*sh I think
thats what I did in highschool. turned in empty papers with nothing but my name and the date written on them. some teachers pulled me to the side and asked me wtf was wrong with me. I would say I'm just not doing it. they would ask me shit like what's going on at home and if I cared about my future. I just didn't care.
I guess I shouldn't have said devices generally but more so short form content. Games actually take some dedication and time to overcome an objective. Short form content does not require you to think critically about the content you are watching or to overcome an issue
how did you graduate
Do you think the avg millennial parents are assertive enough to force their kids to work?
this was paraphrased from a reddit screen cap on Anon Babble.
Anyway it must be easy to be a teacher now. Just assign some half ass assignments, give most of the class Cs no matter what and pass 'em while collecting a pay check.
didn't. dropped out and got a ged
I think america has a "no child left behind" policy that doesn't let schools fail their students, probably so that blacks could get a high-school diploma.
So do you have any proof that's what causes it, and do you think we should ban YouTube shorts and TikTok?
What about the state of especially America in general?
Op says it himself
I at least wanted to get my drivers license, make money, date, etc.
Yeah their parents dont have spare cars to lend them anymore, they can't get jobs, and even if they can those jobs dont pay for gas, no one dates, there's nowhere to go
It turns out when you take away all opportunity people will stop chasing it
Outside is pretty hostile to kids. I saw a group of teens who were skateboarding get the cops called on them. Why deal with that hassle instead of just hopping on discord and playing league or whatever zoomzooms like nowadays?
the kids in hs now are basically gen A, not even zoomers anymore. Anyway as 36 year old boomer who used to skate we got the cops called on us too but it didn't stop us, we'd just run off in different directions and they couldn't catch us all.
I'm not shocked Anon Babble is out of touch enough not to mention COVID zoom classes have fucked up kids measurably in many different ways. Imagine going 6-7 hours a day of school to then just passing by doing next to nothing and cheating on literally everything for a year or two.
Every student just using ChatGPT for any essay, project, take-home assignment, even pulling out phones during tests has also fucked them up real good. It requires less thought than thinking through how to cheat properly.
The philosophy of teaching right now also only works when the students are somewhat highly motivated. You can't just march in as a new teacher, hoping to nurture budding minds, then fail anyone who deserves it. That will be viewed as a failing of the teacher. You're expected not to rock the boat. Administration also usually has its own politics and dinosaurs who have really no purpose or understanding of the real issues at hand.
And also get paid like a teacher while you help aid the next generation into becoming failures.
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
To be honest I don't know what to do. Banning general formats of content feels like a restriction of freedom of speech and any solution I could offer would take a collective change that would be impossible to organize.
I do think that the state of America (and as an extension first world nations in general) does also matter as well. I've seen some other good points on this thread like less opportunity existing but from a personal experience when I look around at some of my college friends and a lot of people younger than me I see this inability to focus on anything other than short form content
Idk but I went to my younger brothers parent teacher conferences one time cause our folks were sick, and his math teacher was very into me :)
You need to allow teachers to fail students who deserve to fail. Reality will hit them in the face right quick once their shit stops flying.
even pulling out phones during tests
that was also possible pre covid and the only way i managed to pass my latin classes
short-form video addiction directly impacted academic procrastination
Okay, so if you're literally addicted to watching those videos then you procrastinate more. That's not exactly a shocker. But it doesn't confirm what you said though.
Personally, I didn't give a shit whatever grade I got. And how does that even relate?
Why are kids so apathetic nowadays?
they're unironically drug addicts. they've been riding a dopamine high since birth because parents for one reason or another let their kids be babysat by a screen for hours on end, if they can't have their fix they either switch off or go nuts because school as it already was, wasn't particularly engaging anyway so of course these kids who are used to quick entertainment aren't suited for a school setting. honestly these kids aren't suited for social settings either, we've sent 5 kids to special detention for sexually harassing another student just since January, last year we've had around 16 cases. this isn't exclusive to my school either.
I've made multiple points through my comments. What are you asking of proof for?
Regardless I feel like most of my points can be found in the article if you read anything more than the headline.
"Due to the technological design, short-form videos are prone to excessive use and addiction, especially for students and adolescents (Wang et al., 2023).
Do you want me to hold your hand through the entire article or do you got it from here?
Do you want me to hold your hand through the entire article or do you think
It's even more normalized now to just pull out your phone to just ChatGPT everything.
Ah, then you'll never graduate, simple. Tiktok/Shorts is largely just a red herring. Every adult is addicted to them or something very similar as well.
He just really wants his "the west has fallen" narrative to explain this as well
China does not appear to have this problem, I wonder what certain demographic they lack that causes this.
Making up opinions for others is not good form.
Yeah they definitely allow their kids to have phones in class 8 hours a day, have unrestricted internet access, parents can just whine enough to change their kids grades, kids don't actually get punished for being nuisances, etc.
You literally said it right here
Do you want me to hold your hand through the entire article
Okay, I'm done with you.
If I literally said it there would be no need for your post to repeat it.
you made up my opinion
<you said it here
why are you repeating it?
ChatGPT glitched?
You mean your brain glitched? What's hard to understand?
I see posts on reddit all the time about fresh college graduates being unable to find a job above minimum wage, of course people are unmotivated even when the people who 'did everything right' are still massive losers
Did you think I was asking you "why you repeated it"?
I'm gonna assume you failed English class in highschool as well
You can assume anything you want, it just makes you a retard.
Well thankfully a lot of berry-picking jobs just opened up for $7.25/hr. We need more Rajeets because Americans are subtards, though.
Yeah but also they're plugged into the internet so the older ones are aware how fucked they are economically and dating wise at least to an extent more so than millennials and most zoomers were at their age and they're probably a bit more clued into how bullshit school is too.
They're also indoctrinated from like age 5 to belive the world is ending due to global boiling now so given that information why would they be motivated to give a fuck?
This is another aspect they're depressed from being on screens all the time instead of having more traditional social interactions but there's not much that can be done about it due to how helicopter parents and society is about this now plus with most of them on screens all the time there's less kids to do shit with outside in the first place even if they weren't plugged in as much themselves.
this explains it for the UK
I'm going to take the wild guess that the demographics look more like a failed state than like a 95% white school from the 1980s.
LOL anon is old, its more like $18/hr around here. We have lots of blueberry, not as much as some states but its a big business. Also cranberries.
Its less than Panda Express pays but more than McDonalds or generic cleaning jobs pay.
Surprising number of college students who couldn't get summer internships or similar.
In a way, the collapse of higher education is fixing the farm labor market.
Apathy, and zero drive
Most likely small town school filled with whites. A more urban complain would have been more like
loud, obnoxious, aggressive
I'm so glad I can break my back with no upward mobility instead of a white collar job, thank you Trump!
Implying you could have gotten a white collar job in the first place when it was already full of foriegners who only hire other foriegners