BREAKING NEWS

honestly this is a good thing

means the short kings aren't wasting their time swiping through women who would instantly reject them regardless

gonna get some JUICY blackpill stats from the next tinder data dump

IT'S OVER FOR SHORT KINGS!

Yep. At 5'5" it's even more over for me.
At least some of them liked my face.

I should say I'm 6"-5" instead of 5'7"

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

There are people out there that don't care about height, men and women.

If someone is so shallow to completely filter you out just because you are short, is that really the kind of person you want to be dating in the first place?

How can it be over if it never began

2% of women don't care about height, yes that 2% can be literally any woman you have no idea who and she's probably with a tall man anyway because not caring about height doesn't mean she won't date tall men

Jesus Christ man at least be honest with us (and yourself). This isn't reddit where you can just shit out an empty platitude and have us believe you. The absolute majority of women care about height, I guess according to you all these women are shallow and abnormal when it's not the case at all. This shit is basically a requirement to date in 2025

Reject real women
Embrace the cold steel of robo waifus

I guess according to you all these women are shallow and abnormal when it's not the case at all

Didn't claim it was abnormal, its hardwired in humans to gravitate towards the stronger mate, and being bigger is the most obvious display of that.
Of course that means the majority would care about height, but what percentage is being short a dealbreaker rather than just a preference?
I'm talking about the people that will downright turn you away for your height and nothing else, no second chances, nothing. That is pretty shallow.

rather than just a preference

So I should settle for a woman who isn't attracted to me, wishes she was with a taller man, and will probably leave me or cheat on me? No, I'll die alone thank you.

Holy shit alright let me make it really simple for you.
You like apples and oranges. You prefer oranges, but still like apples. One day you stumble across an apple, but it has many other qualities you enjoy, putting it above the average orange, so you eat that apple instead of the orange.

Find a woman who is attracted to you for who you are, you know, with other qualities that's not just your height, unless your entire personality is based around how tall you are, that is.

dating apps are a ghost town / a toxic pool of sludge

my fellow SHORT KINGS simply dont bother

roasties cant reject SHORT KINGS on dating apps anymore because we arent there

roasties are denied their ego boost

roasties either have to reject tall kings for their ego boost and stay femcel or

roasties are denied their ego boost completely

hahahaha HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You like apples and oranges. You prefer oranges, but still like apples. One day you stumble across an apple, but it has many other qualities you enjoy, putting it above the average orange, so you eat that apple instead of the orange.

If it was just about averages, sure. We could definitely shoot for this, and it'd work.

But does 'above average' sound 'great' or 'excellent'? No? Then it doesn't sound that way to these women. So what if you're a great apple that beats the average orange. If the above average orange still beats you, she'll hold out for the great orange to come along and absolutely wipe your chances away.

And unlike some people who have a perception of time as a value, she might waste her life away waiting for a great orange that'll never come, simply because it exists SOMEWHERE. Great apples be damned, there's many cases where being in the top 10 apples in the world would still give you a hard time.

This isn't all women, of course. But still a majority enough that it weakens the argument.

Oh, also what if you like oranges not because you actually like their taste, but because everyone else around you likes oranges and you want to be like everyone else? Then the best apple in the world doesn't matter, it's not an orange. Most women that either don't innately just want tall men, or will sometimes choose the short man, may very well be convinced by her friends to suddenly leave the short man for the tall man. Because peer pressure fucking sucks.

Short men like me aren't normal apples, we're more similar to rotten apples that are minutes away from being thrown in the dumpster. I have had women laugh in my face just for existing as a short man. I wasn't even trying to pick them up, I was just in a bar trying to have fun. Being treated like a subhuman does shit to your brain man

If the above average orange still beats you, she'll hold out for the great orange to come along and absolutely wipe your chances away.

If shes holding out because of the possibility of an actual anime boy gracing her presence, thats delusion, so I'll restate: is that really the kind of person you want to be dating in the first place?
But, I'm talking more about the loveable qualities that makes you unique, that aren't as easily replaceable just by being tall. "Sure, that tall guy over there has a nice body and whatever, but my bf has so many more qualities that I value more than him just being tall, thats why I choose him every day"

Oh, also what if you like oranges not because you actually like their taste, but because everyone else around you likes oranges and you want to be like everyone else? Then the best apple in the world doesn't matter, it's not an orange. Most women that either don't innately just want tall men, or will sometimes choose the short man, may very well be convinced by her friends to suddenly leave the short man for the tall man. Because peer pressure fucking sucks.

This is still more of a complaint about incredibly shallow people specifically. I think you are upset about THAT, rather than women as a whole.

I have had women laugh in my face just for existing as a short man

Those are just horrible individual people then. I don't get your point, those specific people don't represent all of women you know

be 5'7

set height to 6'2

Heh, nothin' personell, roastoids.

thats delusion... is that really the kind of person you want to be dating in the first place?

more of a complaint about incredibly shallow people specifically

Exactly. Problem is, peer pressure exists. Social media and its conditioning exists. We also live in a society that relies on instant gratification and also tends to affirm women for pursuing said instant gratification.

I'd love to avoid a delusional woman if I very well can. My issue is that, as long as delusional women exist in a large enough and vocal enough scene that they can be seen in every corner of western society, and that we also don't immediately and publicly penalize these women in our society, what's stopping the woman I pick from not eventually becoming delusional and ruining a however-long relationship we've had for that? That's how the majority of relationships really end. Not personal preference, but peer pressure.

That's SIGNIFICANTLY harder to avoid. The only mostly-surefire way to avoid it is to be dating a girl with basically zero social media, almost no guy friends, almost no single girl friends, and a conservative family. Too many statistic improbabilities to make the chase worth.

I'd rather sit on the sidelines than wade through the shitshow.

I went off a tangent, sorry. I guess my main point is that you're written off as a short man right off the bat, so your other qualities won't even be considered. I realize those women that made fun of me are cruel and don't represent all women, but their negative and condescensing thoughts (with regards to short men) are present in most women. It's just that they were drunk enough to voice them. I can't even look at a woman in the eyes without feeling her judgement . And that story I mentioned isn't even the worst thing that happened to me, if I start typing out the worst experience I had I would probably stop halfway to cry

Are women actually that fucking retarded?

Well, you're talking about the women of the culture that thought a quarter pounder was bigger than a third pounder, because 4 is bigger than 3.

Yes. McDonald's was going to make the quarter-pounder have more meat. But American culture was stupid enough to think that was SMALLER.

So yeah, it's not that hard to believe.

Well, you're talking about the women of the culture that thought a quarter pounder was bigger than a third pounder, because 4 is bigger than 3.

This never actually happened, it's an urban myth.

They really are. Im 5 10 and a half but put my height at 6 foot and never got called out for it from any girl ive met off tinder yet. Also the few times any girl in person has asked about my height they guess or had guessed around 6foot2(phoneposting)
Now tbf the girls I met may have felt nervous to call me out and the irl girls just trying to make me feel good but that sounds less likely than the conclusion that women are retarded

The only mostly-surefire way to avoid it is to be dating a girl with basically zero social media, almost no guy friends, almost no single girl friends, and a conservative family. Too many statistic improbabilities to make the chase worth.

Maybe you'll come across someone aware of this stuff that also doesn't like how the world is? Dating is difficult, and the people that do it easily are the kind of people that haven't actually found their soulmate, only settled really. In reality its pretty damn hard to find the perfect person for you.

I'd rather sit on the sidelines than wade through the shitshow.

Me too I suppose, I simply don't find dating to be worth it.
Yeah, its not fair to be bullied for something you can't control. I'm also very short, 5'0" actually, and I've learned to ignore people like that, they're just ignorant, cruel, not worth my time.
I suppose thats why I have it a bit easier in my experience of being short, because I just don't care what other people think about it.

because I just don't care what other people think about it

Yeah well I care since it's the main thing preventing me from finding someone. I can't just turn off the part of my brain that wants love and companionship. Sometimes I wonder if reincarnation is a thing, and that I was a horrible person in my previous life. I know it's total bullshit but when you have nothing all you're left with is cope and schizo theories. The worst part is I'm not hideous looking but no woman wants to literally look down on her "man" so I'm shit out of luck. Man I thought talking about this shit would make me feel better but it's having the opposite effect

I understand you care, but honestly the best thing to do is work on finding a way not to, I know its easier said than done but its worth trying because this is obviously making your life hell, in your perspective anyway.

Also just by curiosity.. do you have any other problems in your life than just your height?
Because I was quite literally born to die, many disorders, mental and physical, making me wonder the exact same thing :

Sometimes I wonder if reincarnation is a thing, and that I was a horrible person in my previous life.

So for me, height is probably one of the last things I have to worry about.

but honestly the best thing to do is work on finding a way not to

Believe me anon I'm trying, but it's really really hard. I see everyone around me moving on with their life. Some are moving in with their partners, some go on cute dates and go traveling with each other meanwhile my substitutes are daydreams and books.

Also just by curiosity.. do you have any other problems in your life than just your height?

Honestly I can't complain about my overall situation, there are people out there that have it way worse than me and I acknowledge that. I have friends, a good job, a family, good health, etc. I'm sure a homeless person or a cancer patient would kill to be in my place, flawed as I am. Still doesn't make the pain go away though.

Because I was quite literally born to die, many disorders, mental and physical, making me wonder the exact same thing

I'm sorry that happened to you anon. I hope you're fine. I'm being a bit dramatic right now but sometimes I have these emotional episodes where I need to vent my frustrations a bit.

Maybe you'll come across someone aware of this stuff that also doesn't like how the world is?

I have. I've just been unfortunate enough that every woman that doesn't like how the world is also happens to be a lesbian. Guess they see the problems simply because they have to deal with them; the rest of the women that partake in the problem seem to be either blind to the problem, or have a tendency to double down and self-affirm themselves so much because our kind of shitty social media society has told them to.

Dating is difficult, and the people that do it easily are the kind of people that haven't actually found their soulmate, only settled really.

'Settling' is such a negative term for a really not-bad thing. The way I explain it is like selling a house. You have an asking price, but you never really expect anyone to pay the asking price. In reality, you do have a price in mind that you're willing to take, because it's a good deal. If someone comes to you and says a price below your asking price, but above your price in your mind, you're not 'settling' because it's still a damn good deal. It's only settling if the price they ask is below that price in your head, and they won't go up either.

The sad thing is that there's definitely a section of women out there that believe that anything less than perfect IS settling. And there's a much larger majority that don't know what bartering is, so they can't see that there are good deals below their asking price. And another portion that, after they've picked their price, get convinced by another person they could flip the house and get something better- which often just isn't the case.

I simply don't find dating to be worth it.

I'll constantly watch society and the market, partially because I want to look out for my friends, and partially because, even though I'm fine with the way things are, things could also be just a bit sweeter with someone by my side. But until then, we have to get through today.

meanwhile my substitutes are daydreams and books

Write one then. But don't write it about just anything... just immerse yourself into a story that's truly and uniquely you. Doesn't matter if it's sad or happy, just that you can point to it and say 'I did that.'

Anyhow, if there's literally anything else in your life you wish to do, prioritize that. It's easier if they are a higher priority than getting a partner, but if you say getting a partner is futile, then it wastes less time to wait until it isn't, while doing other things. You'll have time to mourn yourself once you've done everything else you can, but you haven't yet. There's more left for you to achieve.

there are people out there that have it way worse than me

So? You also acknowledge that where you are sucks for you. Like you said, it won't make the pain go away.

But hey, from one anon to another.

"If today's just starting, you got a whole day to start something new. To learn from the old. To improve on yesterday. If today's almost over, then sleep knowing you'll have all of tomorrow to do just the same."

Just say that you're 80 inches tall. Do you really think women will be able to tell as long as you're taller than them?

It's a premium feature. No girl is going to pay for tinder premium when she can match with whomever she wants anyways. Short kings are still safe

you underestimate the hate they have for manlets, if they can pay to not have to interact with them they will

I remember I weas talking with my coworkers and I said I was 5'9 which i am, and one girl said I wasn't and that I was lying. lol happened so long ago but still pisses me off

Women always think I'm lying when I say I'm 5'10. If I were gonna lie I'd say I was 6 feet. Why would you cheat on a test to get a C?