Are moids incapable of monogamy?

is it true that moids lose attraction towards a woman once they feel like they own her? once he feels like the chase is over, he will get bored, they say. you need to keep playing mind games even in a marriage to keep him interested. but then what is the point of having a relationship with men? if they are bound to get bored of women in like a few years tops, why should we even bother?

what has been your experience? if you're a moid, do you lose attraction after conquering a woman? does spending years together make you bored? if you're a woman, do you agree with these observations?

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Bait it is the other way around. Also nobody else should reply to this shitty bait thread.

This is bait. Women are incapable of love and staying monogamous.

what the fuck do you mean, why do you think people tell us these things as dating advice

Almost all "advice" comes from losers telling you about their bad outcomes. This kind of advice appeals to most people, since they don't aspire to be winners. They just aspire to not be losers.

Some people have achieved the result you are looking for. You should look to them to figure out how to achieve it for yourself.

I think that human beings in general can just become bored with their partner in a relationship. I've definitely seen the same thing when it comes to women. I mean, after a certain point you've seen pretty much everything, you know everything about them. There's not much new to experience. People grow comfortable, then complacent and bored. But that's why both people in a relationship need to put effort into making sure that things don't get dull and that you don't grow content with mediocrity. Love takes work. Relationships take work. If you're a lazy asshole, both will fail. How long was your longest relationship? Also sidenote: why the fuck are retards here incapable of even attempting to discuss anything? Why even come here at that point?

It's too on the nose to be bait. Everything is framed exactly how a woman would see a relationship. The idea that a man could ever feel secure in his "ownership" of woman, the idea that enthusiastic, raw sex gets boring, the idea that you have to shit test and play mind games in a goddamn marriage.

That's just how women are. Women are bait. For every finger pointed at a "moid" the foid has three fingers pointing back at themselves.

No point in discussing an OP whose premise is flawed at the fundamental level.

It doesn't matter if I lose attraction as a moid. If you're really mine I'm going to be loyal to my family no matter what.
Of course, if my partner spends her twenties chad or career chasing, it's hard to feel like she really belongs to me. This is a dilemma I can't seem to solve

Then explain to them why you believe their premise is wrong. That's what I did.

is it true that moids lose attraction towards a woman once they feel like they own her?

No. It's quite the opposite. Foids stop trying when they get into a long-term relationship. They feel entitled to their man.
They shouldn't. That's why we stop loving you. You're not the girl we met, you're not the girl we fell in love with. We don't feel wanted, and you're not bringing peace and companionship to our lives anymore. We feel lonely and taken for granted.
And then some other foid comes along who DOES make us feel wanted and appreciated and loved and like a companion. So we cheat, or break-up/divorce, whatever.

The first two posts did exactly that. Every trait being ascribed to men actually describes women. No further discussion needed.

people tell us these things

Who? What? Women care about one thing and one thing only, sex. That's why we live in this hypergamy society in which no one wants a committed relationship anymore, just meaningless hook-ups. You come here and try and voice your normoid opinion on a bunch of men who have realized this and have therefor given up on the idea that women want love, romance or a committed relationship. That's why we call it bait. Go to Reddit or any other social media to post this and you'll get the support you are looking for similar women who have massive bodycounts and only blame others, never themselves, but leave us alone.

i have never had a relationship, that is why i seek advice and the dating advice i see for women always includes these tips which make me question "okay if everyone is saying men are so hard to keep then why do we even bother"

Didnt read. Im into k1gg3r5 now, kys foid, i dont care, theres a whole fucking world i can jerk off to

i think that's why the dating advice includes tips like "always try to maintain the illusion that you are strangers", you cannot get too comfortable around the moid because then he will feel like you are not trying anymore

why are you making these false assumptions

Go to Reddit or any other social media to post this and you'll get the support you are looking for similar women who have massive bodycounts and only blame others, never themselves, but leave us alone.

Well said, anon. Women could never get what it feels like to be the man in the relationship. Just look at how OP tries to frame the male perspective: owning and chasing. Like it was a hunt and he's just bored because he bagged the catch.

OP, we are fucking lonely, even when we're with you. Y'all are not good partners. You don't love us or care about us. You don't care about what we're going through.

never lost attraction to my last gf. even when she gained weight and hated herself. never thought about cheating either. we were together for 7 years.

Yeah, sure. I don't have the energy to argue with this bullshit. Get your romance advice from columnists from 1982.

Why are you taking dating advice from women who had 100+ failed relationships?
Not assumptions, experiences from my time dating.

Why are you taking dating advice from women who had 100+ failed relationships?

This. You should be getting dating advice from people who have been married 20+ years. At least 10. If you haven't been married for 10+ years, then your dating advice means precisely dick. You've had no success; only failure.

okay if everyone is saying men are so hard to keep then why do we even bother

Well, I wouldn't say that men in general are hard to keep but if you're in a relationship with a lazy retard then yeah things will be hard. If you're having to play mind games to keep a man, find someone else. The right man will want to put in effort to be with you.

is it true that moids lose attraction towards a woman once they feel like they own her?

I don't know about the "owning" part, but yes. You get tired of the women you've known. After a while, the sex just becomes a regular function, more like a chore. If the guy isn't masturbating to porn, after the honeymoon period he'll want it around once a week (these are when testosterone levels cap out in terms of time since last ejaculation). This is why you hear about couples beginning the descent into hell that's known as "exploring their sexuality" and get into a bunch of freaky shit that destroys the relationship over time.

This is reality. Men are wired this way for obvious biological reasons. HOWEVER it does not lead to infidelity as a default. A lot of men are principled and do not act out on desires because they don't want that done to them. I will say that if you cheat on a man though, it often breaks that part of him. Every guy I've known who's been cheated on has said "I held myself back and never did anything with other women because I wanted to do right by her, and she goes and cheats on me. I'm done with that".

The only reason "men are hard to keep" is because women are incapable of loving us.

Different people are different.
Some will cheat, some never will.
Two examples from my real life.
Guy A, former co-worker

Wife was gorgeous, had done beauty pageants in HS and uni

She was a successful writer so she was a SAHW and an excellent cook

Sweet, kind, and so on. Great cook. EVERYTHING.

he bragged about them still having sex all the time

He cheated on her with a (6/10) neighbor, the (7/10) nanny, and the (4/10) mexican maid.

Another guy

Wife was super nice but was having a difficult pregnancy. She iwas in pain and bedrest. No sex in 7 months

On a business trip with him and (he's a Chad) women are hitting on him right and left to the point one 8/10-9/10 *gave him the spare access card to her room* and said she was in all night

He threw it away, furious, and called his wife to make sure she was OK

So
it depends

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Guy B had a wife that was good to him, simple as. That's the difference. Maybe because he was Chad so she felt she still needed to put in some effort.
Guy A's wife stopped truly caring about him a long time ago, and the relationship was dead years before he made his move.

The seeting cope of the malding incel.
Just like some women will cheat no matter what, so will some men.
Likewise some men will never cheat but also some women will never cheat.

I've been cheated on, and have never cheated. What said is pretty accurate, we just get tired of always keeping our discipline while the women get to have their fun. If a man cheats, it's because he has a ton of options or he's jaded on the game.

Second guy probably saw healthy familial role models in his parents and could never imagine his dad cheating on his mom or vice versa. If not, then perhaps he saw his family destroyed by a cheating parent that made him see how terrible a thing it is.

Or maybe he just really loves her. Or religious. Could be a lot of things.

Ever notice that when an incel/blackpill type talks about relationships they sound EXACTLY LIKE Feminists?
Feminist

Women only cheat because the man stopped caring for her! She was driven into the arms of another man!

Incel

Men only cheat because the woman stopped caring for him! He was driven into the arms of another woman!

Why so many troon out, they're emotionally no different

I wrote . Pretty decent understanding for a guy who's never had a shred of female attention, huh?

It doesn't matter the WHY, just that different people are different so you can't make a rule for all.
As my father used to say - everyone who makes a broad, seeping generalization is an idiot.

I am incapable of monogamy, but that's a personal flaw of mine, most guys are actually monogamous.
I don't get tired of the person I'm with though, I've been with the same woman for 20 years, just never really liked flings, fun, short-term...

After a while, the sex just becomes a regular function, more like a chore.

WTF?
If - and I mean IF - you've had sex you did it wrong.

If the guy isn't masturbating to porn, after the honeymoon period he'll want it around once a week (these are when testosterone levels cap out in terms of time since last ejaculation)

TOTAL incel belief

I have a friend who told me he fucked his girlfriend anally 3 times a day for 8 months. That's probably a real thing. Women, if your guy isn't trying to have sex with you 3 times a day every day, he's not a real man.

The crazy incels are out of their cage.
Again

is it true that moids lose attraction towards a woman once they feel like they own her?

depends on woman. if I wasn't attracted to a woman in the first place, as in, never would have been in a relationship with her, then yes, I'll lose all of the non-existing attraction.
If a woman is "my type" I'll be attracted to her forever. However, I'd also be attracted to other women like her. The way I stay monogamous is limiting myself, forcing myself to not cheat.

once he feels like the chase is over, he will get bored

if he only wants sex and quick sensations, yes. if he is prepared to marry this woman and live for decades with her, then he won't show/act like it.

keep playing mind games even in a marriage to keep him interested.

wouldn't work on me. bullshit games just annoy me and make me want to dump your ass.

but then what is the point of having a relationship with men

building a family. having and raising children together. protecting riches and accumulating more wealth for the family. and then, if you don't hate each other, there might also be emotional support, nice sex, great past time, etc.

why should we even bother?

depends on what you mean. do you expect a man to be with you 24/7 for the next 8 decades? Calm down, everybody needs some times for their hobbies and on their own. If you don't want me to get bored of you up to the point of dumping you, then just don't breather down my neck 24/7 when we start a family. simple.

do you lose attraction after conquering a woman?

I'm not conquering women, it's boring bullshit. Attraction depends on a woman herself, whether I was ever attracted to her as an individual.

does spending years together make you bored?

one can't go "wow! she is so new!" for 50 years. How about realistic expectations of others? There is something much better, like appreciation for being a great partner, and true love, that only emerges after years. All life together is the best thing.
TL;DR: Depends on both a man and woman.

these two diametrically opposed groups actually agree on something!

that must mean the thing they agree on is wrong!

I give up on you nerds. Get cheated on, then.

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I've never been in a relationship.
I had soulwrenching crushes on 3 girls lasting about 5 years on average. I didn't think or look at other girls while that lasted.

I can't imagine actually bagging a girl I like and getting bored with her. I want to build a lifelong partnership with her. I don't give a shit about "conquest", in fact I would prefer if it was easy.

Just goes to show how valuable the pussy pass is. Women can get away with and even be rewarded for these noxious attitudes.

Both Flat Earthers and Jews think the Earth is flat.
Guess what?

You think Feminists aren't despised?
Wait until you graduate HS and see the real world

Is that the reason you think the earth is round? Because you don't like flat-earthers and Jews?

JFC, you're literally retarded.
No, moron, anyone with an IQ over 45 knows the Earth is not flat. But two extreme groups share the delusion.
Like incels and feminists both refuse to accept responsibility for their own actions.

once they feel like they own her? once he feels like the chase is over

These are not the same

Like incels and feminists both refuse to accept responsibility for their own actions.

That's an interesting take. Do you think you have a responsibility to your partner to actually love them, care for them, make them happy, or is it just when the relationship breaks down that the responsibility is to remain in a broken relationship?

They are regularly elected to public office. They've infected and taken control of all Western media. I didn't say they were liked, I said they could get away with. it and be rewarded. People can hate everything about you and STILL give you what you demand, just because you're a woman.

it's not "the chase", it's either of these:

that beauty is a commodity he consumes and once you change ever so slightly he starts hating you

he was projecting some sort of muse into you without ever stopping to think or evaluate it, so he gets upset if you stop entertaining those delusions or show a different side of yourself

men are never attracted to women, they're attracted to their delusions or they're seeking the validation of their other male peers. to be sustainably attracted to someone you have to see them humans just like you which the majority of men are incapable of.
tldr men are pedos

Of course.
But the claim

The ONLY reason someone cheats ie because the other person didn't luuuuurve them right

is bullshit
I know men that would cheat on the most loving woman in the world just to do it, same with women.

ITT: Retards that lack the courage and skill to talk to other people that think they are PhDs in human psychology

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I know men that would cheat on the most loving woman in the world just to do it, same with women.

Okay, fine. I'm sure there's some people like that. But the whole

some people just cheat, some people just don't

is also supremely bullshit. That's just washing responsibility the other way. The brain-busting revelation I'm making is that people happy in their relationship don't just decide to end that relationship, whether by cheating, break-up, or divorce. And yeah, if someone cheats in their long-term relationship, then that relationship had died a long time ago. And yes, there are things you can do to prevent that. People who act like it's just out of their hands whether they get cheated on or not are playing themselves.

Imma persist in my retarded viewpoint no matter what

FTFY
Go put on your pussy hat and join the women's march, faggot