Apparently its considered "Cuckholdry and Humiliation" to date modern women

1. Paying for strangers is always cucked. You're working for the benefit of someone who has no relation to you.
2. In Tango the woman is expected to follow the lead of the man. It's not an exercise in "mutual communication" or negotiation between adversarial parties. Muh body language, muh cues. Just be honest.
3. Same as #1. You've got someone grubbing for your resources before they're even familiar with you. It's cucked.

This is NECESSARY, because a lot of men are flaky, insincere, and most importantly non-committal.

Its not mind reading to be able to pick up on basic social cues.

Again, if you communicate

The last two things don't jive with the first. If communication and social cues are so easy then why not just use them instead of shit testing somebody in such a superficial materialistic way.

Having a basic understanding how how human social interactions work. Being able to understand basic body language and non-verbal communication cues. Be able to understand boundaries, and that no means no. And that neither of you are entitled to each other's time or attention. And that if your differences are irreconcilable you should split up.

Ok well in his post he's talking about dating modern women. So theres that.

Mad? I'm disappointed because you failed to even understand the most basic fundamental steps to dating and having a long term relationship with a woman. This isn't unique to you. And I point it out because men here will blame women for problems that are almost always either both parties being at fault, or entirely the mans fault to begin with.

You can't understand even the most basic social cues, can't communicate apparently when it comes to discussing the boundaries of your commitments and are too cheap to consider paying for a restaurant nicer than applebees to show the depth of your commitment in an era of fast track instant dating where relationships come and go like cars on a highway.

Its a reaction image you retard. Thats perfectly within the rules.

Womp womp womp shut up bitch lmao

Its a reaction image you retard

No it's not, it's textbook avatarfagging.
I think I'm just gonna impersonate him for the next few days. I tend to get banned the moment I post in an off-topic thread so maybe it'll be like a kamikaze attack and get him too.

Its not humiliation or "cuckholdry" to be tasked with taking your girl out to a nice place, knowing basic social cues, and be willing to discuss your finances with your partner.

It is if she has been with other men.

I think I'm just gonna impersonate him for the next few days.

Pretty based. By the way, can I also have sex with you?

There's nothing wrong with finding dating to be a chore.

Also

Waah men need to open up and communicate more

Man opens up and communicates his frustrations with dating

N-not like tha! Gross!

Men are more than validation dispensers.

No it's not, it's textbook avatarfagging

Go ahead. I think it's funny that I live rent free in your head

You could've at least picked a nice looking character and not this misshapen turd.

Didn't ask, hoe

he's right though

modern dating/marriage is a cult of cuckoldry and humiliation

Post wedding ring or get the fuck out. Sick of people who aren't married acting like they know how to achieve success. It's always this gay "Communication" and "Body language shit". You're telling dudes to be submissive and responsive, rather than dominant and proactive.

You're supposed to be shit testing them as a man. It's their love language. Take the offense and make them respond to you. Go to the local diner on the first date, tell them to order whatever they want, but you've already eaten and are just gonna get a shake. They'll have to balance whether or not they want to look greedy and fat. They have to contend with the fact that you'll see them with stuffing their mouth full and chewing. They'll order a tea, coffee, or strawberry lemonade.

Set the follower and lead dynamic right at the start and you'll go the distance.

holy samefagging schizophrenia

Paying for strangers is always cucked

He's talking about dating. I'm assuming he means dating long term. I'm not suggesting you blow 200 dollars on some woman you just met.

In Tango the woman is expected to follow the lead of the man

Yeah I wonder why you don't have a partner with an attitude like that

It's not an exercise in "mutual communication" or negotiation between adversarial parties.

The expression two to tango is to denote that in order to have the dance even happen, you need two people. And your absurd reaction highlights problematic tendencies.

Muh body language

Even in your tango extrapolation, you need to be able to read and move with the other person. I.e reading body language.

Just be honest.

You first dipshit.

You've got someone grubbing for your resources before they're even familiar with you

Then don't date them dude. I don't know what to tell you. Find someone who loves you for you. Or don't, and shit your pants and cry.

Because in modern dating testing someone to see if they hold under pressure will save you years of wasted time and potentially a very messy divorce.

I do like how this guy blantantly uses an avatar, and nobody bats an eye. But when I do it everyone has a problem.

Yeah that seems pretty fair.

I tend to get banned the moment I post

I wonder why

Plenty of men have been with other women. Yet thats never considered a problem.

>>Waah men need to open up and communicate more

Cry all you want but it's true. Learn how to talk to people you buffoon.

>Man opens up and communicates his frustrations with dating

Yeah trauma dumping to someone you just met is cool.

Men are more than validation dispensers.

I don't need your fucking "validation". I am not a dog, or an animal. I am a human being with thoughts and feelings. And if you treat me poorly I will leave. Thats it.

Guy using avatars mad at me using a reaction image

Plenty of men have been with other women. Yet thats never considered a problem.

So go and take a guy out for dinner, treat him nice, support him and every dream he has, take away all his worries and financial problems, and give your life to protect him.

Because in modern dating testing someone to see if they hold under pressure will save you years of wasted time and potentially a very messy divorce.

I think if you're retarded enough that you need to play mind games with your dates so that you don't date somebody you hate all the way into a dysfunctional marriage, then there's a personal problem you're not addressing.
Also you forgot to put on your trip

I don't need your fucking "validation". I am not a dog, or an animal. I am a human being with thoughts and feelings. And if you treat me poorly I will leave. Thats it.

Then why are you putting this much effort into posting on a slow Anon Babble board?
It's natural to want validation femanon. Whether you're being genuine in this thread or "having a troll on those effin inkwells" you're clearly seeking it in one way or another.
The way you type this reeks of someone getting their feels hurt that proclaims "I don't care what other people think of me!" Like haha, no, we all care and you just made it clear you care far more than you put on.

He's talking about dating

Sticking your dick in someone doesn't make you familiar. You could go on 10 dates for 2 hours each and you would have only spent 20 hours together. I spend twice as much time with the guys at work.

You're strangers until you've nutted raw inside them for a full estrus cycle. (Copper IUD is optimal). You have to confirm that you're both still into each other sexually at every point of her hormonal cycle.

Yeah I wonder why you don't have a partner with an attitude like that

I'm married. We very firmly established at the start that whoever invites organizes and pays for everything. None of this obnoxious back and forth negotiation shit. She follows my lead sometimes, I follow hers. First date you need to enforce this dynamic, as it's the natural order.

you need to be able to read and move with the other person

They need to respond to me. The female follows and the male leads. The "body language" is communicated through physical touch, not this vague social cue bullshit. There are also objective rules as to what makes it tango, as opposed to Waltz or Salsa.

Then don't date them dude

I don't. That's why I was able to find a wife on my second try. I tried listening to conventional bullshit like yours and it didn't work.

It kind of is. I know some normies who are in relationships and they seem incapable of standing up for themselves and saying "no" when their foids demand something. Yes, even Chads are like that. I get to listen to them complain at work about how expensive their women are and how they have to attend all sorts of annoying/boring events with their gfs/wives. The married ones even complain about how they can't play video games anymore unless their wives are not home or sleeping, like some children who can't play because their parents don't allow them to.
All of this stuff makes me think these guys are either low T or completely emotionally fucked and scared to upset their foids because they might cheat on them or leave them. So they bend over backwards and make their lives worse to be literal servants to their foids. I like to think of them as pussy slaves, because that's what they are.

There's something so funny about how milquetoast their complaints are and how pissed off they sound. And yet it worked on you :3

I could never hate Crona <3

In this case I think most reasonable people that actually care about you aren't going to ask you to take them to a 5 star restaurant. But there are a few reasons she might. The main one being its a test of how serious you actually are about getting into a relationship. This is NECESSARY, because a lot of men are flaky, insincere, and most importantly non-committal.

No, FUCK YOU you stupid useless fucking whore, you insisted to get into the workforce, to get an income of your own so you don't have to depend on men and all that crap, but you still want men to fulfill your retarded provider fantasy, newsflash retard you can't have your cake and eat it, now that you can there is no reason why you shouldn't pay your fair share like a big girl
Woman up, pay up

Maybe I would if I could find the right guy. Its not that easy. A lot of men that seem like they could be the one either don't have their life together, or have commitment issues.

I think if you're retarded enough that you need to play mind games

Such a fucking nasty way of saying that you want to try it before you buy it. FUCK. I mean you act like testing someone is some kind of evil nefarious bullshit, but you gotta be a little "evil" if you don't want to get hurt later down the road.

Also you forgot to put on your trip

How did you know I had a trip?

Then why are you putting this much effort into posting on a slow Anon Babble board?

Theres nothing wrong with putting effort into things. Maybe incels wouldn't be so fucking miserable if they put effort into dating.

you just made it clear you care far more than you put on.

Why the fuck would I care what some fucking basement dwelling incels think of me? I don't need anyones validation, or their approval. I'm fine on my own and living my best life.

Sticking your dick in someone doesn't make you familiar.

Having sex with someone I think makes you pretty fucking familiar. Sure that doesn't mean you're gonna settle down with them. But thats still very intimate.

You have to confirm that you're both still into each other sexually at every point of her hormonal cycle.

Yeah uhhhh... Can I get a fucking SAUCE on that, like even one chart or statistic to back that up?

I'm married. We very firmly established at the start that whoever invites organizes and pays for everything. None of this obnoxious back and forth negotiation shit. She follows my lead sometimes, I follow hers. First date you need to enforce this dynamic, as it's the natural order.

Then what the fuck dude why are you even here I'm clearly not talking about you specifically I'm talking about lonely fucking INCELS and their inability to date in the modern era not a fucking fully materialized couple also what the fuck is with the "I need to cum at her during every lunar cycle" bs? This is like crystal-mom tier logic but for incel ideology.

Beanie, how often do you flick your bean?

Having sex with someone I think makes you pretty fucking familiar.

Just trying before I buy, bro.

Can I get a fucking SAUCE on that, like even one chart or statistic to back that up

It's information about one another, yeah? When is having more information about a potential partner ever a bad thing? Why would you not want to have this information before committing resources?

why are you even here

Because I got burned by ideas like yours and want to save other people from the same fate. You're right, it takes two to tango. One lead and one follow. It needs two people who understand their roles. It doesn't mean you have two people that try to both lead and follow at the same time.

crystal-mom tier logic

It's science. Attraction fluctuates over the course of a cycle. She should want to take your load even when she isn't ovulating, and she should REALLY want to take your load when she is. You're cooked if this isn't the case for you.

I'm fine on my own and living my best life.

Ah yes. The best life where you admit to "testing people" instead of being genuine and you waste time arguing with strangers you'll never connect with in a way that's intentionally combative so you can get some false feeling of having accomplished something.
Then you post an image that reeks of some pop psychology self help snake oil. I did that shit for a while and it was because people had me convinced I had to become someone different than who I was which is a reclusive beta boy.

Femanon I know you're probably just an epic leddit troll but take your own advice and get offline, self reflect and seek some help.

I could never hate Crona <3

Awww thank you hun :3

and saying "no" when their foids demand something

Ok so the context is the woman is asking too much. And the husbands are being too conciliatory. So communicate to her? Talk to her? Let her know how you feel? Holy fuck men are dumb.

The married ones even complain about how they can't play video games anymore unless their wives are not home or sleeping

BREAK UP WITH HER WTF. Don't just take abuse because you feel like you have to!

All of this stuff makes me think these guys are either low T or completely emotionally fucked

Listen, accommodating your partner is normal. Being a slave to your partner isn't. I don't think it's low t. I think its just poor socialization.

they bend over backwards and make their lives worse to be literal servants to their foids

Then don't fucking do that? Then leave? Then call for help? Do something other than just sit there in a relationship that makes you miserable!

I like to think of them as pussy slaves, because that's what they are.

Men are absurd coomers. Are you fucking telling me I could control you people just by withholding sex? Are you actually that sex-addicted that you can't live without it? Holy fuck

It just annoys me because its not even just him. I'm disappointed in how STUPID modern men really are!

No, FUCK YOU you stupid useless fucking whore

I'm the whore when men are so addicted to sex they apparently stay in abusive relationships. Sure anon whatever helps you cope dude. Talk about projection.

so you don't have to depend on men and all that crap

Yeah, so we're not completely at the mercy of men. And actually have some say about what goes on both politically and domestically.

Even Ben Shapiro married a doctor. Not some no-name housewife.

but you still want men to fulfill your retarded provider fantasy

I don't need a man to provide for me. I have my own job bitch.

Beanie, how often do you flick your bean?

Men really do just think about one thing don't they?

Men really do just think about one thing don't they

Men think about lots of stuff. You don't offer any of that stuff, so we don't bother you with it.

Just leave

That's what women do when things get uncomfortable in a marriage. Men soldier on, make the best of things, and honor their vows.

I don't need a man to provide for me.

Yeah, except when you need them to provide you a free dinner, you fucking goldigger whore

The main one being its a test of how serious you actually are about getting into a relationship. This is NECESSARY, because a lot of men are flaky, insincere, and most importantly non-committal.

So are women. I remember taking a girl out to dinner and she ended up ghosting me right after. Some women genuinely use desperate men for money or free food. So I can see why that Anon is being cautious.

Maybe I would if I could find the right guy.

Maybe? I would do anything for my partner. I would be the best possible version of myself that even if she thought about cheating, no other guy would even come close to how I treated her. I am constantly telling the men in my life they need to step it up with their gf's because they are slacking. That's the difference between us.

Its not that easy.

It is. You agree to be there for each other for the rest of your life, no matter what happens, no matter what struggles you need to get through together. The world would cease to exist when you are alone with him.

A lot of men that seem like they could be the one either don't have their life together, or have commitment issues.

If you are already reluctant to support your partner now, how is he supposed to believe you won't leave him when he loses his job or something worse? Wouldn't that make you hesitant to commit as well? Especially if you have a history of failed relationships.

Just to correct you: I'm not "homosexual" because that implies I'm only attracted to males. I'm platonically and spiritually gay

This is NECESSARY

I can understand all your complaints except this. Most first dates will lead to nothing. Why should I be expected to shell out several 100 dollars just on an attempt to get to know someone and get closer to them? Especially when it's most likely not going to go anywhere?

Such a fucking nasty way of saying that you want to try it before you buy it.

Clutching pearls about language followed by justifying your position equating people to products.

I mean you act like testing someone is some kind of evil nefarious bullshit

it's not evil. don't give yourself that much credit. it's just silly. I don't see how you preach communication and social cues but then spout xitter level shit like

uhm if he's not emptying his wallet he's not taking you seriously hunny

the entire date is a shit test, if you can't pay attention to the way somebody acts and make decisions accordingly, that's on you.

How did you know I had a trip?

I can't tell if you're being serious.

I'm just sad that no femine faggy men for me, and that God hates me for being a faggot.