If incels are right than why shouldn't women avoid unattractive men?

Incels claim that all unattractive men are incels who are doomed to fail (not true) but if it is true then shouldn't women avoid unattractive males? Why should women date unattractive males when they are probably blackpilled incels? Why take the risk?

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bit if it is true

What a retarded thing to start a thread about

all unattractive men are incels who are doomed to fail (not true)

A minority of ugly men getting the faithful woman they're attracted to does not mean as much as you think it does. These women are already avoiding or treating these guys worse just for being uglier while getting ready to ruin their lives or embarrass themselves for more attractive guys so your question doesn't really matter.

If not being black pilled and respecting women made women so wet or compensated for being physically unattractive you wouldn't have these guys reduced to being beta orbiters or onlyfans payers.

Because the alternative is falling for pretty bad boys who at best pump-and-dump them, and at worst beat/rape/murder them.

why shouldn't women avoid unattractive males

But that's already reality. It'd be nice if they dated unattractive men because then I could experience cuddling and affection.

But alas

lol i dont understand your point. obviously being ugly makes things bad enough, but because they're ugly they're likely to be cold, insecure, inexperienced, etc. yes youre absolutely right and i think a lot of incels would agree with you.

I don't think that it is. Incels claim all the time that unattractive men are incels, so where is the incentive to date them? Why would I date someone who probably hates me?

These women are already avoiding or treating these guys worse just for being uglier

This is what incels believe lol but every time I go outside I see ugly males in relationships.
It obviously works since most males are in relationships.
Where did the idea come from that pretty boys or attractive men have worse personalities? In my experience they don't lmfao

It'd be nice if they dated unattractive men because then I could experience cuddling and affection

Do you even go outside? Unattractive men are in relationships all the time. Usually with unattractive women but still. Unless you want Chad treatment you should have no problems finding a girlfriend.

I do go outside. I have to go to work, but I also go on cozy walks in the afternoon to escape my bedroom.

I've very very rarely see anyone uglier than me with a gf. It's kinda brutal, I wish I didn't start comparing myself to the dudes with gfs outside.

Where did the idea come from that pretty boys or attractive men have worse personalities?

Hard to know because its an idea that predates the internet
it goes

being attractive has halo effect

halo effect makes life easy

easy life means less emotional struggle

less emotional struggle means less emotional development

which means less developed personality

hope that helps

I don't think that it is. Incels claim all the time that unattractive men are incels

Not because they are worse people you retarded foid but because women hate ugly men with a burning passion.

Where did the idea come from that pretty boys or attractive men have worse personalities? In my experience they don't lmfao

If a man had a good personality while being attractive, he wouldn't be on the dating market because he'd have settled down extremely early.

Maybe you are one of the rare ones who should give up.
It still doesn't explain why pretty boys would have worse personalities. In my experience its the opposite. My boyfriend is hot as fuck and is basically an angel where's my ugly ex who was short was a jelous little gremlin.

Not because they are worse people you retarded foid but because women hate ugly men with a burning passion.

No that's what the blackpill has taught you. The truth is that you are dehumanizing yourself
Dating is complicated though. It isnt really a market

anon, why do you take incel claims seriously? do you need help?

It still doesn't explain why pretty boys would have worse personalities.

nigga what do you want? statistical inference?

My boyfriend is hot as fuck and is basically an angel where's my ugly ex who was short was a jelous little gremlin.

well a popular black pill explanation of this is that the attractiveness skews your perception. thats kind of what 'halo effect' means

Do you even go outside? Unattractive men are in relationships all the time

Yes I go outside.
Only unattractive men I see in public spaces with women its old married couples with kids, when husband deteriorated. Fat, balding, with acholic abuser face. But that says nothing how he looked during marriage day.

Where did the idea come from that pretty boys or attractive men have worse personalities? I

Attractive men date majority of girls.
Also majority of rapes, murders and physical assaults comes from women's current and ex sexual partners.
Non attractive men doesn't dat girls and and statically they rarely abuse women.

My dad is a retired surgeon who has more than 40 years of happy marriage with my mom. He is a 5'6 manlet autist who was too shy to ask her out despite her literally stalking him around bars.
Times have changed

well a popular black pill explanation of this is that the attractiveness skews your perception. thats kind of what 'halo effect' means

"What a cute pupper!" Every woman before pitbull bites off her face.

lol i dont know what to say to this.
i some how find pugs cute, and i can't explain it.
anyway, if you're OP, i don't really understand what you want out of this conversation. I've provided pretty clear answers to your questions.

Damn, blackpilled by an anti-blackpiller. It truly is over for me.

Women do avoid them retard thats the point

because i'm a person with an actual internal life and you're a dumb slut. also i have literally no standards while you think 80% of men are unattractive

Because incels are very prevelant now it seems.

well a popular black pill explanation of this is that the attractiveness skews your perception

It didn't. My ex was an idiot. He was jelous of me having male friends. He hated when I talked to other men or worked in group projects.
I don't know where you live but where I live I see ugly men in relationships all the time. Even young men. I have classmates who are hideous who are currently in relationships.

Times have changed

Kind of, but only because women have more freedom now.

Damn, blackpilled by an anti-blackpiller. It truly is over for me.

How was my post blackpilling?
But we don't though lmfao.

because i'm a person with an actual internal life

You are probably a person who hates women.

and you're a dumb slut.

Case in point.

also i have literally no standards while you think 80% of men are unattractive

I don't think that 80% of men are unattractive. I have a specific type though.

Dating is complicated though. It isnt really a market

It is a market, people are the product. Attractive men have the most sex with the majority of women. There isn't really anything we can do about it besides a revolution and that's unlikely. The only way to win is to not play the game and focus on something else in life.

It was blackpilling because you told me to give up. But that's ok, because it's the correct response. Sometimes you gotta accept the cards you're given.

everyone should get with their looksmatch because otherwise its unfair and leads to unhappiness in society.

It didn't. My ex was an idiot. He was jelous of me having male friends. He hated when I talked to other men or worked in group projects.

It should be obvious that I wasn't giving you the actual explanation of why you think your ex is cringe, etc. Obviously providing limited information to someone is going to result in an inaccurate opinion.
It was an explanation of blackpill point of view, which is what it seems like you were asking about since making this thread.
You're kind of annoying. Maybe that means one of us is ugly.

Women choose the wrong men
If you know what i mean you know

It is a market, people are the products.

Stop acting like an incel. People are not products. Love is not market based.

Attractive men have the most sex with the majority of women.

And how is this wrong exactly? Shouldn't attractive men be allowed to have sex?

The only way to win is to not play the game and focus on something else in life.

Or you man up and accept your looksmatch.
Because that's probably what you wanted to hear. You don't seem very willing to make a change. You should probably accept that you are not supposed to find love and focus on other things.
Males don't want it though.
I was merely explaining my point of view. My ex happened to be ugly AND a bad human being. In my experience men who are attractive tend to be nicer.
No we don't lol.

I was merely explaining my point of view. My ex happened to be ugly AND a bad human being. In my experience men who are attractive tend to be nicer.

what do you want from this thread?

Males don't want it though.

cope refer to

If love is not for me, what should I focus on? I'm getting old here

Why would I date someone who probably hates me?

The thing is that foids can convert most incels easily. It's just that there is almost never a reason to do so.

every time I go outside I see ugly males in relationships

You're an ugly man in makeup yourself and your word or interpretation of events you briefly saw means nothing.

It obviously works since most males are in relationships

Most relationships fail, and real women have backup men ready withhold sex and cheat in relationships all the time.

To pretend they're a real woman. This is therapeutic roleplay for them in between wanting to kill themselves for being such a failure.

every time I go outside I see ugly males in relationships

That is because, to you, 99% of men are ugly

You're replying to an ugly man rn

The thing is that foids can convert most incels easily

They can't be bothered to fuck non chads regularly especially in ltr though so not really. The "incel" would get a taste of some mid sex and then be denied it constantly anyway.

True, but I honestly don't see why a woman would benefit from getting into a relationship with me. It's like expecting someone to take the $5 when presented with the option to take $5 or $1000

If women only got with men or lived based on what meaningfully benefited them their lives wouldn't be anywhere near as garbage. They wouldn't be so fat, fake, drugged, diseased, alcoholic, narcissistic etc.

what is low vs high time preference

Uglier bitches don't offer long term benefits for getting with them retarded subhuman. These women you're calling 9s and 6s are uglier women in makeup or using other shit to hide their or mid or shitty genes. Practically none of these women are going to stay loyal to one fag or pay off in the long run. At least if men did what you said it would force all these mids to improve beyond the superficial or parroting the same feminist cancer.

Practically none of these women are going to stay loyal to one fag or pay off in the long run

The results and most relationships falling show this. If these uglier women got no attention compared to "Stacy" they would be at least closer to virgins instead of having a dozen plus dicks stacked.

This is for another thread but it still works here. If women delayed gratification their lives would be better. They don't stay virgins, don't fuck guys that give a fuck about them, and can't be bothered to take care of their bodies. Looking at the state of women shows they don't care that much about what actually benefits them. So if you want to be part of the line of dicks and have your turn you probably can, you just have to accept it's short lived and risky.

don't know where you live but where I live I see ugly men in relationships all the time.

Aaaah, female Chad glasses. Everyone who isn't 10/10 is 3/10, just look how they rate men on the dating apps...

I have classmates who are hideous who are currently in relationships.

I am too old for classes. In public I see highschoolers often, there is school near my appartment. Observation about zoomers: zoomer mrn like to wander around as goups, groups sometimes have girls. It's always tall 6'+ zoomers have girls. Their shorty friends alway awkwardly alone. Zoomer girls themselves can be low, difference with their boyfriends can be huge like eyes at their boyfriend's nipples level.
Never seen zoomer group when lower guy had girlfriend.

blackpilled

Why is it bad for you that men know what's going on?

Because their bosses depend on men working harder to legally buy pussy or try keeping it around

Knowing is half the battle
And the other half is burning them all