Female Nature

Why cant women refute their own nature or admit to their own mistakes? Every time you point out a flaw in their character their immediate response are ad hominem attacks (Incel, Small dick, touch grass, etc). I see good men treat their women like royalty and they still ended up being divorced by their wives just to find themselves or keep other options open.

women are irrational and narcissistic

when confronted with this, they respond with narcissism and irrationality

where is the confusion here

Nobody in a relationship can commit anymore

Why is it that incels suffer from all the same exact problems, but refuse to acknowledge their own mistakes?

r u unironically asking why women are retarded in 2025

I admit I was born under 6' and with autism, your turn

Funny, yo udid the same thing incels accuse women of doing just now. Refusal to accept responsibility.

I admit I was born short and ugly and women bullied me for no reason

Wow, look at that, it's 2 for 2. Without fail.
It makes sense as to why incels are always so angry at women for doing this, it's just a projection of their own feelings.

I won't accept responsibility for what others did to me. even entering a classroom warranted insult, that's not my action.
you can stuff your attempt to erase our pain up your ass

we do have mistakes and we do learn and work on it however nobody chooses to be an incel, men are simply born into one or not, but heres the thing though, women on the other hand have the CHOICE to treat unfortunate men kindly you have the CHOICE to treat them like a human being but you simply chose not to because women are loyal to their feelings, like it is not the hard to be a decent person but women simply chose not to. They cave in to their feelings without any rational thought its as if they dont think but FEEL every decision they make, this is the reason why men in the past put strict regulation on women because if you let women do what ever they want their entire nation turns into haywire

No, I could go on about my other flaws which are completely my fault, but I've been explicitly told that autism is the number 1 reason. Thanks for playing though

You sound like a tranny screeching about how people are trying to erase them lol

It's also funny, you're also following the script that OP put forth for women perfectly. Can't make this shit up.

nobody chooses to be an incel

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You choose to be an incel through your actions.

I could take responsibility for my actions

BUT MUH AUTISM!!!

IT'S MUH AUTISM!!!

IT'S NOT MUH FAULT!!!!!

REEEEE!

Men are allergic to average women. Ugly women are invisible ghost to them.

What do you get out of shitting up Anon Babble with the world's most pointless and obvious bait? The incels posting here are bad enough, but at least they are trying to seek comfort through confirmation of like-minded peers. You are just a retard.

Stats don't care about your feelings kiddo. cbsnews.com/news/height-and-suicide/

trying to seek comfort

Oh, man. I'm sorry, I didn't realize they were doing such a virtuous thing of seeking comfort and circle jerking, while blaming everyone else for their problem! Just like they complain about women doing.
FORGIVE ME FOR I HAVE SINNED AND TRANSGRESSED AGAINST THE PROTECTED IDENTITY OF INCELS! I AM SORRY FOR CALLING ATTENTION TO THEIR SHITTY BEHAVIORS AND DOUBLE STANDARDS!
FORGIVE ME OH GREAT RETARDS! PLEASE ALLOW ME INTO YOUR INNER CIRCLE OF RETARDATION AND CIRCLE JERKING!
OH PLEASE!

faggot.

Of course, short men can live healthy, rewarding lives with no suicidal designs. Tall men and those of average height can also commit suicide

I love how it almost immediately undermines a short men problem

The possible influence of unemployment, relationship breakdown, or mental illness couldn't be fully assessed

because they couldn't be half assed to look into it

More men commit suicide, but more women attempt it

ahh, including women, a must have in these things.

*continuing retard noises*

I think you got lost on the way to Anon Babble

I didnt at all, i treated people with respect and dignity (even as of today) as for example volunteering to cover someones shift at work, helping veterans at the VA for community service, i hold no ill will against women because its inherently in their nature to be solipsistic and there is nothing i can do about that, like i said refute my synopsis instead of replying with COPE like i said once men point a flaw in women they cannot form a rebuttal and instead sort into ad hominem attacks such as yours

I never went for Chads. My boyfriend isn't a Chad. He's the only guy who doesn't melt down physically hitting things like punching holes in the wall like you all when he's criticized.

you are a male without a boyfriend

There is nothing of substance to engage with.
Again, the entire premise hinges on the idea that "we didn't choose to be incels". Which is blatantly wrong. You are the ones who engage in the behaviors that result in you being rejected.
It's not because you're short, it's not because you're ugly, it's not because you're autistic. These are just a bunch of lazy excuses for you to throw around and avoid any sort of responsibility or accountability for your own actions.

The second point is just "BE NICE!!!!" which is not a point. It's just a childish attempt at saying "stop disagreeing with me!!!!!"
Completely irrelevant to the subject at hand. Why do incels always bring up completely unrelated things?
Are you a marine who had their face blown off?
No. You're a nerd who sits on his computer/phone for 18 hours a day jerking off and crying on Anon Babble about how lonely you are, because you're too afraid to go outside and engage with society.

Whatever you want to believe, anon. Go ahead and focus on the boogeymans you fear so much.

i never went for Chads

I do understand why you responded that way but from your point of view he isnt a chad from your perspective due to women being loyal to their feelings.

I suppose that he might be tall, maybe a good jawline or lean body fat. He might have been a good guy at the first month of you dating him but thats a flaw that most women fall for since men like that are in an interview (Dating is Interview) so men like him will put the most positive image of them in front of you so you took it face value. Around maybe the 3-4 month mark is were they show their true self, and thats the part were you start FEELING (like as i said women dont THINK but FEEL) that he didnt turn out to be the guy you thought he was because you were too loyal to your feelings

That is the just world fallacy. A lot of normies and bluepilled incels repeat this platitude that if you work hard enough life will just happen. The problem is that this world is cold cruel and social darwinist at its core. The strong dominate the genetically weak like how nature works. These 5'8 and below nerds have no chance because they will get crushed by the dominant in society.
This is coming from a non incel non sociopath too

Anon just stop, its a shitposter arguing in bad faith

I suppose that he might be tall, maybe a good jawline or lean body fat

He doesn't.

the rest

I already knew him for three years prior to committing to a relationship with him. We were friends prior.

Just cope like you all always do.

Why cant women refute their own nature or admit to their own mistakes?

Because they don't have to.

Every time you point out a flaw in their character their immediate response are ad hominem attacks (Incel, Small dick, touch grass, etc).

A clear indicator of NPD and one of their favorite tactics, classic DARVO

I see good men treat their women like royalty and they still ended up being divorced by their wives just to find themselves or keep other options open.

We're not really terribly complex animals, we do what was modeled by our parents. Dad tolerated mom's bullshit all throughout our childhood and we were taught "happy wife, happy life." It's really not that complicated.

Probably a tranny who gets off to the idea of pretending to be a woman on the internet.
They already lost this argument if they have to resort to bad faith

There is nothing of substance to engage with

There is though, that link that he gave is worthy enough for debate whether short men are more likely to commit suicide due to their short stature, there are multiple studies on women disliking or not showing any attraction to short men, but you simply refuse to acknowledge the argument because you know that anon is right and you cant prove him wrong so instead you shift the goal post into being incel is a choice well being short isnt a choice. I already accepted that i can not convince people no matter how rational and logical i try to be its just that like a said when women are loyal to their feelings its as if you are arguing against a hard headed child, meanwhile a man on the other hand is easy to convince as long as it comes with rationalitu

bro. the writing is on the wall. it's a structural problem now.

I already knew him for three years prior to committing to a relationship with him. We were friends prior

See like i said women are loyal to their feelings the reason why you stuck up with this man is because of how he made you FEEL, i guess to you love is a FEELING not a CHOICE, if you were a rational you would have told him, in which i assume that you did but he probably didnt listen because you just have that FEEL that he might change himself.

When society collapses on itself it's going to be fucking hilarious to watch these normies wither and die and try to place the blame on lesser value men(because of course they will!). The current world is not sustainable

Normie Covid lockdown meltdowns were the funniest fucking preview

Dad tolerated mom's bullshit all throughout our childhood and we were taught "happy wife, happy life."

we're waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy past that shit in 2025. we're literally all some sort of incel until proven innocent

platitude

Oh look it's the incels favorite word to dismiss any sort of notion of self responsibility.

These 5'8

Nonsense excuses. Plenty of short, balding men have wives and kids.
Interesting virtue signal.

"He disagrees with us that means he's a troll!"

"SHUN THE NON BELIEVER!!!"

Quite cultish, I might add.
I'm a man you fucking retard.
They do not commit suicide because of their height. They commit suicide because of their mentality and perspective on life. They do the same thing that the average incel does, which is blame things which are outside of their control, for example, other people "women" and their physical attributes "height". Then get upset that they cannot change anything, because they view the problem to be things that are unchangeable, see: other people. All of this starts a negative cycle of thinking which is reinforced by bad habits like chronic self isolation, which further reinforces the beliefs that everything is outside of their control, and then the grips of depression take over and they have no foundation to fight back.

ALL because they're blaming the external world, rather than accepting personal responsibility and making changes to themselves and their own perspective. It's very simple, not necessarily easy, though.

I'm no longer going to respond to your bad faith argumentation
I want to see them slaughter each other in the streets that would be fucking glorious

"He disagrees with us that means he's a troll!"

I have been on this website dealing with far more subtle and competent trolls longer than you have had ballsack hair.

Yes, love is a feeling, Anon. I love this man, regardless of his flaws. There's nothing wrong with that.

I did tell him, he reciprocated and said he felt the same way. It's how we started dating. Keep trying to rationalize your cope. You won't go anywhere with it until you solve it.

refute

admit

point out

"ad hominem"

women do not care about such things

Yes, anything you disagree with is bad faith.
And everything you disagree with is a troll.

Women are the way they are because they are genetically wired to behave that way. They have cavemen brains that will never be compatible with a modern society.

Baby gets mauled by a lion

"ERM HE DIDN'T TRY HARD ENOUGH, DID HE SELF IMPROVE?"

They do not commit suicide because of their height,

They commit suicide because of their mentality and perspective on life

They literally do though. And where do you think they develop that mentality and perspective on life? Its because they were treated mainly on their looks, IE their height. Im super short (5'3) but my life experience makes it so hard for me to believe so that you are right because i see it from my own eyes that people inherently dont take me seriously people always blame me when shit happens and i own up to it even though i didnt even do it so it came to a point were im that guy that keeps doing mistakes because i didnt have a backbone back then due to owning to mistakes that werent even my fault, and why do you think they do that? because im a small and short man therefore i am an easy target but oh well woe is me, me being treated negatively was purely in my control anyways amrite?

Fuck you normie. Get out of my board. You can never understand what its like. You normies live life on ez mode.

How is that at all related to the topic at hand? How is this related to incels not taking responsibility? Are you trying to say that incels are like babies who lack the capacity to defend themselves, or make simple autonomous choices without the guidance of a caretaker?
Are you trying to say that incels are basically just 79iq retards?
Really? What's your point here?

I can count three fallacies in your argumentation alone
Just World Fallacy
Appealing to authority
NAXALT
Three blatant fallacies

because im a small and short man therefore i am an easy target but oh well woe is me, me being treated negatively was purely in my control anyways amrite?

Maybe if you didn't have a napoleon complex, maybe, just maybe, people would take you seriously.

That some people don't have easy lives. That there are immutable winners and losers in life no matter how much they "pull themselves up by their bootstraps". That doesn't work anymore it isn't the 1970s Grandpa you need to wake up you dementia ridden Alzheimer's patient
Sincerely kill yourself, boomer. Put the revolver to your head and blow your fucking brains out

The point is you're preaching this "responsibility" horseshit when there are things out of people's reach that they have no control over. Sure, taking responsibility of your life is a good thing but nothing is guaranteed. An inkwell can self improve as much as possible and never get anywhere while chad thundercock can easily bang a 10/10 with minimal effort because he was born with good looks.

So that is what it came down to. You couldn't cope with it, and now you say that. If you want to stay in that mindset, so be it. Rationalizing it will not get you anywhere though. It's your life, live it that way. I love my life and being with my boyfriend, so I'm staying that way.

Your children hate you, your wife hates you and you're a burden on every other generation.

Love is a feeling

Feelings change and what if you lost those FEELINGS for him even though he still stayed loyal, committed and the same? Would you be one of the immature women that says i lost my love for my bf or would you be one of those mature women that still chooses their man through thick and thin even though they lost feelings for him?

Love is clearly a choice, there are ups and downs in a relationship, you just dont get to tell your partner to go kick rocks once you stop having that FEEL for him thats why you choose him every single day.

Feelings are involuntary they come and go based on mood, hormones, circumstances, or even the weather. You can feel attracted, infatuated, or even "in love" without any effort but those feelings can fade. If love were only a feeling, relationships would fall apart the moment passion dips or life gets hard.

But real love is not passive. Its a conscious decision to commit, care, forgive, stay loyal, and support someone even when its inconvenient or difficult. You choose to listen during an argument, stay when things arent exciting, and act with kindness even when you're angry. Thats not emotion thats intention.

Think about parents caring for children, spouses navigating illness, or friends staying loyal through years of hardship. Thats love and its chosen every day.

But like i said women dont think they feel.

Just World Fallacy

Wrong. I've made no mentions of what anyone deserves.

Appealing to authority

Also wrong, I don't reference any authority figures.

NAXALT

Point to it. I've not said that either.

So, it would appear you're just a liar who likes to twist things. Probably just your average manipulator hanging around in a crowd that easily manipulated, such as the incels.
This post is hilarious because:>Every time you point out a flaw in their character their immediate response are ad hominem attacks
Great job proving my point, anon. Wonderful job. We can see why you're an incel. Must be because you're ugly and short, couldn't be that atrocious personality. Couldn't be that. You're a wonderful person, right?
Right?

Everyone has things which are unobtainable. What's your point here? Chadthundercock has things which are unobtainable, that you can obtain, and visa versa. Most things are obtainable by most people. Pretty much everyone can get a job, and live a moderately successful life and have a wife and kids. It's not like it's some difficult unobtainable thing.
Sure, I'll grant you, it's more difficult for some people, but by no means is it unobtainable if you put in even the bare minimum effort. Most incels do not want to do that though. They want to put in ZERO effort and still get the things they want. They want to sit in their room and bedrot but still have all the luxuries that require responsibility. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Do you see the point here?

rationalizing it will not get you anywhere.

So you admit that you arent rational and just have just world fallacy? Yeah I know that I know you think this world is a meritocracy. You deny the fundamentals of real life and evolutionary psychology. You see humans as divinity when we are just apes with a few extra brain cells completely governed by our instincts. I am a genetic failure but due to the way humans have warped the environmentI am not dying out anytime soon. You normies are going to have to deal with me now.

What is your opinion on murderers who get tons of love letters from women? Will becoming a criminal help me make your vagina tingle?

X deserves X because they're have a good personality is the just world fallacy. I've seen people with awful personalities get girlfriends on looks alone.

Napolean complex doesnt actually exist. Infact you just proved me correct that shorter people are treated and seen negatively. If a short man is seen busting his ass of at work normies like you will be like "oh this man is trying to prove himself he clearly has napolean complex" meanwhile a guy of good stature will be seen as "Yeah this man right here is a hard worker and clearly does it out of his own accord"

Shut up foid. Here is some light reading. I know your female brain wont be able to fathom the implications of this picture but It was worth a try.

I'm not the normalfag, I was messing with you since I proved your point.

Why do you guys bother arguing with an npc? She is incapable of higher thought that goes outside her programming.

Normies literally can't be honest. It takes a person with ASPD such as myself to be blunt with you because they have to sugar coat things so that incels continue to run on life's hamsters wheel.

Everyone has things which are unobtainable. What's your point here? Chadthundercock has things which are unobtainable, that you can obtain, and visa versa.

Lmao, like what?

Most things are obtainable by most people. Pretty much everyone can get a job, and live a moderately successful life and have a wife and kids. It's not like it's some difficult unobtainable thing.

People that are on Anon Babble are not "most people." They're the bottom of the barrel individuals plagued by traumas, genetic deficiencies, mental illness, and incompetency. There is no quick fix for this, on the contrary they are likely to be doomed to failure forever.

Sure, I'll grant you, it's more difficult for some people, but by no means is it unobtainable if you put in even the bare minimum effort. Most incels do not want to do that though. They want to put in ZERO effort and still get the things they want. They want to sit in their room and bedrot but still have all the luxuries that require responsibility. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

It doesn't take minimum effort to get a women. It's a Herculean task for incels to get women, it takes godlike power considering the attributes they have. Most women already have high standards for men, incels cannot compete with the average/high value males. It's a losing game.

Do you see the point here?

There is no point your making.

You clearly didnt though, if you proved my point then short men wouldnt be hanging themselves

Yeah, i should have know that this was going to happen. Like some people should swallow their own egos and admit once that they are wrong but they are too clouded by their own ego so from their perspective everything they say is absolutely correct. I have been humbled alot in my life and i know when im right or wrong and i take ownership to it however i also learned that i cannot convince people that they are wrong or change how they think because to them that is a direct attack even though i have good intentions, so yeah you are correct

Some people are weird degenerates. That's it.
It's no different than asking about the simps who chase OF whores and donate 1000s of dollars. These types of people exist on both sides.
I didn't say anything about deserving anything. You're simply putting words in my mouth and strawmanning my position so you can easily dismiss it without really engaging with the core premise of my argument.

The core of the idea is not that certain people deserve anything, it's that the dating market is a market. People value things, and if you don't have those things, or don't attempt to gain those things, then your value in the market will be lower.
and one of those things is the ability to take responsibility, specifically it's a trait women seek out in men. If you cannot take responsibility for yourself, you cannot take responsibility for a woman, or a child. If you can't deal with the struggle of holding down a simple job, you can't deal with the stress of a family.
All these sorts of concepts are connected, but incels just neglect it and say "wah it's cus I'm short!!!!" or some lame ass pussy excuse.
If anyone is making a x deserves x argument, it's the incels, (you). They're the ones who claim they deserve to have sex, or to have a super good gf because they're so nice, or whatever their stupid excuse is.
Shut up retarded faggot, I'm a man and I'm not reading that fag shit picture.

You clearly didnt though, if you proved my point then short men wouldnt be hanging themselves

I don't understand. I agree with what you wrote here:. Being short is seen as a negative trait, that's why the term "napoleon complex" is used.

lol this bitch wont last in here much longer. She cant take the amount of logic being channeled in here. It is bad for her brain. Causes her pain. She will tap out soon and just leave with some petty ad hominem and convince herself she won the argument and you are all wrong. Like clockwork every time.

it's that the dating market is a market

Right, and traits such as height and face give a male lower sexual/relationship market value.

because there is no evolutionary pressure on them, they can do whatever they want and no one will care otherwise.

Those are Chads that you go for, and once chad breaks your heart you blame it on men like me on men that you see as a friend on men that you dont find attractive meanwhile the men that you didnt gave a chance are more likely going to listen to you and treat you well but they >are however unfortunately invisible from your periphery

Nta, but it's not le chads. It's men here too. You notice it, your whole nice guy larp falls apart. You attack the female poster, and being your army with you.
All men are act like this, not just chads or whatever.

Shut up retarded faggot, I'm a man and I'm not reading that fag shit picture.

You cant handle the truth. Honestly I am better than you because I can handle reality while you need to cope with your blue pill.

Same seeI tell it how it is. No sugar coating it

napoleon complex

all of a sudden being likened to the literal top 10 greatest men to exist and the man who conquered europe is now seen as a bad thing

uhh thanks for the compliment LOL

this poster has possibly never been with a woman

yet he knows so much about them

???

Only in the context of hookups. Outside of hookups, it's irrelevant. If you're looking for a long lasting relationship, superficial traits like height and looks are not predictors of success.
But this is where people get the wires crossed because they use data from hookup apps, which is irrelevant.
Your version of reality is an illusion that you've created an use to cope with your trauma, rather than addressing the feelings you have. Try again, gayboi.

Why can't you acknowledge that the world is social dariwnist which is absolute fact?

why would you point out flaws in their character? You're not their teacher, you're supposed to compliment them and fuck them.

If you're looking for a long lasting relationship, superficial traits like height and looks are not predictors of success

Height and looks get you into relationships. Character traits are harder to use to get into relationships because most people aren't looking for them and the women that are, are usually burnt out from riding Chad dicks and want something stable for themselves.

Oh please I bet you believe pic related is completely normal. I bet you believe the world is round. I bet you believe vaccines are good for you. I bet you believe that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You are a blue pilled cuck.

They have cavemen brains that will never be compatible with a modern society.

So do men. It's obvious.

NTA but I'm a Social Darwinist actually

Incels will say they're only interested in average/ugly girl but then will post literal 8/10? I see ton shit thread about them hating on ugly women.
That's my only take on this whole thread.

This picture destroys every normie argument.

shit i might have replied to the wrong person my bad bro.

Because "absolute facts" are a misnomer. Truth is always filtered through perception, context and language.
The world is not black and white.
You've got that backwards. You're thinking of hookup culture. Hookups almost never lead to real relationships. Good personality traits do not lend themselves to hookup culture, because hookups are all based on superficial physical attributes.
Which is the exact opposite of relationships. It's almost entirely based on who you are as a person, not how you look.

If you're a shitty person, you can get hookups easily, but cannot get long lasting relationships.

"If you're criticizing stereotypes, you can't fall into the trap of using them yourself. Not all men act like 'Chads' or 'nice guys' as if they're some kind of archetype -- many men are genuine and respectful, but the issue isn't about labels. The real problem is that women, just like the solipsistic person you are, are always looking for just physical traits or superficial qualities in a partner. Just cause that "partner" give you dem tingles

If you're a shitty person, you can get hookups easily, but cannot get long lasting relationships.

Normies really are retarded and out of touch with reality. Clearly you didnt grow up in an abusive home or suffer or experience poverty if any kind or you would know the obvious fact that plenty of shitty people get into relationships.

I'd be fine with genuinely average/ugly women, but they only want chads. Why the fuck can't average/ugly women get the fuck over their bullshit high standards and settle for incels? Its not fucking fair that they won't, and we are right and justified to be full of rage until women stop being such pieces of shit and stop rejecting us

I'm not a normie. I was born crippled, and I don't mean ugly, either. I mean a physical disability.
I did grow up in an abusive home.
And I grew up extremely poor. Literally grew up with a single parent living on SSI in trailers.
Good job getting every single facet of my person incorrect though. Probably just a projection of yourself.

plenty of shitty people get into relationships.

And what happens to those relationships? They fall apart. Why does this happen? Because one, or both of the parties are shitty people.

Hypergamy is a result of social darwinism. Its human nature and you can't escape it so back in the old prehistoric days men had to take what they wanted(rape) but that's a big no no nowadays for decent reasons. The strong dominates the weak and that's how the story goes. Humans are nothing more than a subset of mammals and this is how we operate

You have to be pragmatic about this or you suffer long term. Everyone has a price. Women's prices are a little more blunt. Provide for her (status/safety/security) or leave. Those are her prices. Pay them and you don't get called that anymore. Then you realize how evil they truly are behind that veil. They will literally talk the most evil trash about other men and people. Call them names and put down others. It's really sad.

Yeah and I am an Albanian street performer. No a lot of those relationships dont fall apart even when they should. Clearly you dont know what co dependency or abuse is. You are a sheltered Beverly Hills normie and are probably white so you have privilege.

So its they cannot truly love you for who you are but what you can do to them. Well shit are women actually like unable to control their decisions. Like its not that hard to do the right thing it literally takes zero effort of action to be a good person but for them its almost impossible to overcome their natural instinct to be a piece of shit.

I know what all those things are. I grew up around meth heads and drug addicts, abusive people stealing cars and tvs from their own partners to sell for drugs.
And again, no. I'm not a city person, I grew up in the rural towns in the middle of nowhere in trailer parks, motels, Rvs, etc.

Seems like more projection from yourself.

So its they cannot truly love you for who you are but what you can do to them.

Are you just now figuring this out? Why do you think even make strippers need to be dressed as firefighters or cops or something. Women unlike you will not love you if you do not have something to offer them like resources or money. It is not because they are evil it is because of evolution. We are animals and in order to survive woman needs Chad.

Which is the exact opposite of relationships. It's almost entirely based on who you are as a person, not how you look.

These relationships happen much more rarely than you think and even then you need to have a certain amount of attractiveness to be considered a viable potential partner. Which is why it's better just to give up if you're irreparably damaged. The whole women hating shtick is bad for the soul though and makes a person bitter which makes their life even worse. It's best just to regard this topic in neutral terms.

Yeah im just figuring this out now because i always wanted to believe that the redpill and blackpill is a lie but women make it so hard for me to do so.

Then how come some women do take care of a deadbeat man who has nothing to offer (Financially, Security etc) like one of those black guys who dont go to work but a black women still takes care of him or criminals who offer nothing of good at all etc

Enlighten me because im tired of women and their female shit

Then how come some women do take care of a deadbeat man who has nothing to offer (Financially, Security etc) like one of those black guys who dont go to work but a black women still takes care of him or criminals who offer nothing of good at all etc

If you are an abusechad then this counts as a resource. Their primitive animalistic brains interpret this as you being an alpha male and having strong genes. If you are a criminal you do not need to work you can just steal from beta cucks who work. This is why Vikings were Chads.

Nope, it's not that rare at all. Every time I go outside I see a bunch of 5"7 bald dudes walking around with some short chick and 2 kids. It's everywhere.
And me, being the social person I am, I talk with them when I get the chance and the guys always have the most warm personalities.

The whole women hating shtick is bad for the soul though

Absolutely. It's bred from resentfulness. And that embittered resentfulness is what keeps incels stuck. You cannot found any sort of positiveness on resentment. It breeds nothing except bad, gross shit. No one wants that.

If you are an abusechad then this counts as a resource

Damn women truly are retarded and loyal to their feelings. Like we dont even like in the stone age anymore and these dumb broads literally cant even make a rational decision so instead of using their brain and think they would rather cave in to emotion

its funny that you try to decouple height from being rejected by women and sheer depression/social disadvantage.

it's becoming the one thing women intersect on as a requirement for males. full stop. height is the thing that will blackpill entire societies. you really don't think leg lengthening is dystopian do you

It isnt their fault anon. They were bred to be this way by years of rape and slavery. They are conditioned to want abuse genes. That was the price for survival. Our bodies do not know that we are no longer in the Stone Age. It is why we get fat and crave sugar and salty snacks. These were rare resources on the savanna and the body does not realize time has passed..

The real problem is that women, just like the solipsistic person you are, are always looking for just physical traits or superficial qualities in a partner. Just cause that "partner" give you dem tingles

Why are we pretending men aren't the same? Men see only jerking their dicks to Stacy. Not to some 2/10 woman.

I put my height in tinder and have never gotten a single match. You are such a liar. Women care very much about height and would never reproduce with a short man. It is biology. It is science.

Humans are animals. We are beasts. The difference is now women hold all the power in dating.

How nihilistic of you anon

We should be like Spartans and kill all manlets at birth to cleanse the world of worthless genes.

tinder

Hookup app

Wow, great proof. Have you tried putting your height into outside and going outside and interacting with people outside of the internet?
You know, like, outside? Not on a screen? Real human interaction? Outside?

So basically break ups and divorce happen because women wanted to have greener pastures? Like grass is greener on the other side? Like they are not able to be satisfied with one partner that treats them well? This makes me hate women even more, its true what you said that they are conditioned to be this way but they also have the choice or free will to overcome that natural urge. An example is that i was conditioned to be fat and unhealthy but with sheer will power and discipline alone i was able to shred weight even though my natural urges wanted me to neetmaxxx. This literally made me realize that women are so mentally weak that they would rather fall into their urges and resist basic instinct.

Kill all manlets

every man is now 6ft

oh sorry anon i only date guys that are 7ft

kill all manlets

every man is not 7 ft

oh sorry anon i only like guys that are 8ft

it never ends does it now huh

More retard bootsraps about the loneliness epidemic.

it's your fault you can't afford a house, you didn't work hard enough

stop blaming the world for your problems, work extra hours

you'd have more money if you didn't buy avocado toast

oh you lost your job from outsourcing, guess you just weren't valuable enough

No job opportunities, that's just laziness

You should recognize how dumb that sounds, but for some reason you would still say shit like

just get out there

Out where, a gas station, a chain store, a corn field

just use the apps and take better photos

Apps are over 70% guys, its' literally rigged

You're complaining about dating giving women more options hundreds of miles out, guess you should work out more

Literally just the same as arguing people who lost manufacturing jobs from outsourcing weren't good enough. Men used to only compete with other men for dates in their local area, and people used to be monogamous, now those are much less the case.

But go on with your just-world fallacy bullshit. You're a retard if you believe lies from 1980s movies like 'there's someone for everyone', 'girls always go for nice men'. This isn't a fantasy world, things outside of men's control play large roles in determining dating success, or lack of it, just like with other areas of life.

just get out there

So I went to a corn field, and had no luck. I tried a Walmart parking lot, but after having no luck, I went home. The next week I tried a gas station, and still had no luck. I went to work at the fiberglass factory, but no luck, just got fiberglass all in my hands. I finally tried hobby clubs, but they don't exist, or are all boomers.

Bob won the lottery, so you can too

Lol seething foid with out of touch wrld view is getting raped in thread

it never ends does it now huh

It can end if women take it too far. It might end us all of course

I only date augmented anon

you're not chromed out enough, sorry

why do biocels even exist, chad? ick tee hee

You know it's coming

Genetic determinism and social darwinism are real and I can't believe high school lied to me.

I never said anything about fault. I said it's your responsibility. If you want to own a house, step up and do what's necessary. You want a gf, a wife, or a kid? Step up and do what's necessary. Kiddy time is over, mommies not here to hand you what you want if you scream loud enough and long enough. If you want things you have to do the work. Do wanna do the work? I guess you won't get the thing you want, then.
Nobody wants a whiner who just complains and complains and blames and blames.
If you want something, get it. If you're not willing to put in the effort, you won't get it. It's really that simple. the world isn't a complex place.
there's two routes, you can play the lottery of life and hope that the things you want just all fall into place exactly as you want them to.
Or, you can do the work and put the things into place and make space for them.
That's it.

If you want to sit around and whine that things are hard, fine. It won't get you any closer to what you want.

just use the apps and take better photos

That is the opposite of what I said. Apps are for retards. Go outside.

I went outside and what I wanted didn't happen immediately!!! IT'S OVER!!!

What a shitty, childish mentality.

dur you broke my just world fallacy

dur no matter how utterly fucked and hopeless it is, its still ur fault, I just replaced 'fault' with 'responsibility' because reasons

effort required to achieve thing keeps increasing

don't ever complain about it, just work 200 hours a week

odds of getting a date get worse as fuck apps and social media globalize the dating market

Bootstraps, don't ever point out a problem, or you're just a whiner

if you disagree with me your CHILDISH

Ok fucking retard faggot, explain to me where these mythical 'places' to go are.

I can't name any, so you're CHILDISH

That's the insult of retarded boomers who believe the just-world fallacy, like you. You get all your world views from 1980s movies, and Wall Street propaganda.

kiddie time is over

the world ain't complex, just be a boomer

bur burr muh just world

I'm not saying it's a just world. I'm saying actions have consequences. If you want something, you need to go get it. This is the way the world has worked for billions of years. If you do nothing, you get nothing. It's really that simple.

I just replaced 'fault' with 'responsibility'

Fault and responsibility are two entirely separate concepts. If you're hungry, it's your responsibility to act in a way that will net you some food. Mommy and daddy won't feed you forever. You'd better learn how to get some food before you starve to death.

odds of getting a date get worse

The population is increasing by the day. It's getting easier and easier.

explain to me where these mythical 'places' to go are.

Literally anywhere there are people. I strike up conversations with all sorts of people everywhere. I chat with the barista at the starbucks, I talk to the randos at walmart and the cashiers, I talk to the random people at the lake or river when I go fishing. People are literally everywhere. Shits not that complicated.
Lol

I'm not saying just world fallacy

Goes on to do the just-world fallacy

people in picrl CHOSE to be poor, and just complain about working 14 hours a day, the should WORK 16 hours a day, if you want something, just go get it. It couldn't be that rich fucks rigged the whole system against them and that there were no labor laws and that GOD FORBID, SOMETHING needed to CHANGE, OH NO!

Dating is getting easier and easier

You are just wrong, since the rise of shiternet dating, a huge chunk of men get nothing. The population increase you talk about is only in poor shithole countries as well. You might as well argue that globalization made getting a factory job easier, since more people are getting them (in poor countries), and more of them are appearing (in poor countries). Women now have access to every man they can meet anywhere in the world at the touch of a few buttons, and monogamy is dying, competition has never been worse for men.

literally anywhere there are people

People don't want to be approached for dates while at work or buying groceries, or whatever, unless you are incredibly attractive. Anybody who isn't lying (you) knows now that if you strike up a convo with a woman, and she doesn't just brush you off, she's ALWAYS taken, because she has access to every man as far as she can drive to meet at the touch of a few buttons.

Dont waste your time arguing with this boomer normie npc. They are practically on the level of an automaton programmed to think and say the same tired propaganda over and over again.

Dumbass, the just world fallacy is about JUSTICE. I'm not talking about morality or justice. I'm talking about simple cause and effect.

These people who are completely unrelated to me somehow proves my point that.. uhh uhhh!!!!

Incels love this retarded logic. Since there's someone out there who has it worse than they do, that justifies something?
The other one is the retarded example of someone who is blind, deaf, has no arms and no legs being able to climb a mountain.

It's just nonsense. Pure excuses. You are not in that situation. You have a computer, or at the very least a phone, electricity, running water, AC, etc, etc etc.

a huge chunk of men get nothing.

A huge chunk of men DO nothing. That didn't really happen before the internet. You do nothing, you get nothing. It's as simple as that.

competition has never been worse for men.

The competition has been exactly the same, if anything, it's easier. The only people it's harder for are the people at the absolute bottom of the IQ pool. Like under 85.

People don't want to be approached for dates while at work or buying groceries,

You dunce, that isn't how you do it anyways. You don't just randomly approach people and say "you wanna be my gf???" Just talk to people with no expectations. It's no wonder you can't get a gf, you have the social awareness of an uncooked potato chip.

dumbass this isn't the just-world fallacy

Goes on to justify the just-world fallacy
fails to comprehend my example

this is retarded

The point was, retard, that the dirt-poor people from the gilded age where at such a heavy handed disadvantage, that no matter what they did, they'd i all near-certainty, still be poor, the point was, due to FACTORS OUTSIDE THEIR CONTROL, they were doomed, and needed A CHANGE TO THE SYSTEM to have a fair shot. If you weren't a projecting retard, you'd see how that compares to men at such an extreme disadvantage in modern dating, that the have no shot no matter what they do, without SYSTEMIC CHANGE.

A huge chunk of men DO nothing

"It's poor peoples' fault their poor, they don't want to work 16 hours a day" That's called JUTS-WORLD FALLACY, fucking retard.

The competition has been exactly the same

Because reasons

if anything, it's easier

Because brainworms

You don't just randomly approach people and say "you wanna be my gf???

Strawman

dirt-poor people from the gilded age where at such a heavy handed disadvantage

And guess what, even though they were disadvantaged, they still managed to get girlfriends, wives, and have kids.
Weird how that works.

SYSTEMIC CHANGE.

Oh, I see. I'm arguing with a retarded communist. Bye bye now.

he defends the system because he's winning and attributes his success to his own merit, not the fact that he simply got chosen by a female.

dating is absolutely dystopian and women have changed the meta. this guy who wants to blame the men who can't find a partner would probably be willing to accept being a cuck. this goes beyond all of this self-improvement talk

if women's standards are now visibly narrowing, that means more men will be forced to psychologically confront genetic determinism and unapologetic discrimination by women. men who are chosen off things they couldn't control will double down and become dating coaches and try to make men follow the "traditional" ways. its the guys who are pushed out of dating that can see what is wrong with it.

so i really do think anyone who denies the meta changing with technology, ideology, etc. are mostly projecting a bias.

And guess what, even though they were disadvantaged, they still managed to get girlfriends, wives, and have kids.

Weird how that works.
I was comparing economic success to romantic success, you retard. They stayed POOR because of SYSTEMIC FACTORS OUTSIDE THEIR CONTROL, just like a incels stay SINGLE because of SYSTEMIC FACTORS OUTSIDE THEIR CONTROL.

systemic change iz gommunism

You are as retarded as picrl. If we were talking about kids failing math, and I said we needed SYSTEMIC CHANGE to the education SYSTEM, you'd call wanting kids to do better in math COMMUNISM.
Aye wait a minute

guy can't understand analogies

guy thinks dating is easier than ever now, despite the math showing otherwise

You are one of those kids failing math.

not the original anon but how could you say that the global population increasing makes dating easier? Do you not understand how pairing works? Do you think they're all only girls?

Havent read most of the conversation but think this anon is retarded or bait

It's simple math.
For the sake of simplicity, let's say the population is a perfect 50/50 split and the chances of any given female of being attracted to you is 1%.
You live in a community of 100 people. 50 women, 50 men. You have a 0.5% chance of finding a mate.
You live in a community of 200 people, 100 women, 100 men. Your chances of finding a mate is 1% have doubled. Because there are twice as many people to pick from.
The higher the population, the higher the chances are that you will find a match.

This is a super oversimplification. The more women there are, the higher the likelihood that one is attracted to you.

it's simple math

So the population doubles, and Bob's odds of finding a mate double, but so do Matt's, Joe's, and every other man's.
If you add them all up, they'd total 200%.

It's also the same brainlet argument people make about using more dating apps to cast a wider net.

more hooks in the sea = more fish

So suppose there are 100 fish in the sea, and 100 fishermen. On average they'd catch 1 fish each.
Bob decides to put 2 hooks in, thus "doubling his odds", but then everyone sees Bob's success and decided to copy Bob. Thus they should all catch double the fish, right?

that'd be 200 fish, there's only 100 in the pond

Here's how it really works out, one's odds are actually NumberOfHooks times (NumberOfFish divided by TotalNumberOfHooks).

When Bob puts in 2 hooks its 2*(100/101) = 1.98
Everyone else with 1 hook its 1*(100/101) = 0.9900...
When everyone puts in 2 hooks, for Bob or anyone else its 2*(100/200) = 1

This.
Just find one that will put up with you being an asshole to her. If she doesn't she isn't worth it.
Even the biggest feminists are like this

May as well be 200% or 1000%, you're basically guaranteed to find a gf in the current times.

I will warp and strawman every argument so that I'm always correct

No amount of information could disprove what I believe because I want to believe it

I genuinely can't tell if this is a parody of the guy I was arguing with, or the guy I was arguing with. The lack of understanding of how probability works is so absurd that it is it's own parody.

You're the one who clearly doesn't understand, which is why you constantly misrepresent the perspective of the person with whom you are arguing.
Just can't tell if you do it intentionally, or unintentionally. Is it malice, or just pure, unadulterated ignorance and inability to understand basic communications? Who knows.

can't understand that probability can't total more than 100%

You're the one who doesn't understand

you constantly misrepresent the perspective of the person with whom you are arguing

No, you were just wrong, and I proved it mathematically.

haha I disproved your not real, oversimplified math that was just used to illustrate an example for stupid people

You're actually stupid... And missed the point, yet again. You're phenomenally good at that.

Percentages don't scale linearly, what is happening is not that your chance of finding a woman is doubling, it's that your chances of NOT finding a woman is halving.
Dividing by 2 is the inverse of multiplying by 2.
If your chance of finding a woman is 50%,
Then your chance of finding a woman is 75%
Your odds have doubled because the chances of NOT finding a woman has halved.

And I was illustrating this by doubling the chances from 0.5% to 1% as the population doubles. And of course this runs into the problem of having higher than a 100% chance as the population increases. BUT IT WASN'T REAL MATH. Just oversimplified, which I said.
Quit pretending to be smart. You're bad at it.

Quit pretending to be smart

Still doesn't understand probability

"You still oversimplified my simpleton argument"

I was showing that population size has no bearing on ones' odds with the first part. How it actually works in real life is there is a small percentage of men who do very well, and get a higher percentage of women. Say the top 5% get 50% of the women, it doesn't matter if the population is 1000 people or 1,000,000,000 people.

By your logic, if you moved to China, you'd have a better chance at getting a job, since there are more jobs there, and the higher number of people applying for those jobs totally wouldn't cancel that out.

Why do all robots employ the pseud tactic of trivial objections?

HAH!

You said 0.5% and not 0.5!

I'VE COMPLETELY DISMANTLED YOUR ENTIRE ARGUMENT AND I AM SUPERIOR TO YOU INTELLECTUALLY!

OH!

You miss spelled a word!

I'VE SYSTEMATICALLY DISMANTLED YOUR ENTIRE ARGUMENT BY POINTING OUT THIS DETAIL OF MINUTIA!

Welcome to the internet. That is normal. You can go onto any forum and experience the same exact thing. That includes the fallacies and character attacks.

It quite literally does.
It's not exactly double as the population doubles, but it's close enough. But as the population increases your odds of finding a mate increase exponentially to the point of guarantee if you put in any amount of effort.

By your logic, if you moved to China, you'd have a better chance at getting a job

This is different logic, it's just like the logic you used with your fishing boat example. Which is different from the logic I'm using.
Which you cannot seem to comprehend. You continuously make it more and more clear that you do not understand what is being illustrated.

Instead of trying to be a super hekkin sigma IQ lord and dismantle everything to prove your intellectual superiority over the 4chuds, try employing that gigabrain to try and understand what is being said first.

Oh, something else I should add;
You're not oversimplifying my oversimplified points, you're turning them into something else entirely and trying to claim it's the same thing. Most people would refer to this tactic as a strawman.

Like, I say:

Dogs make really good pets and companions

And you say:

HAH what an idiot stupid person, you think that we should replace every human relationship with dogs, and replace the government with dogs, and give all the nuclear codes to dogs?! YOU THINK DOGS ARE SUPERIOR TO HUMAN RELATIONSHIPS????

Just stop and think for two seconds.

It quite literally does

Nope: let's redo the fisherman example, but this time there are 100 fisherman, and only 50 fish, rest the same as last time, they fish until all fish are caught. Compare this to an example with 200 fisherman, and 100 fish, their odds are the same in both examples.

This is different logic.

Yeah, the fisherman example uses basic math, while you use butt-hurt boomer-brain logic.

try employing that gigabrain to try to understand what is being said

You couldn't understand the analogy where I compared peasants in poverty facing near impossible odds of escaping poverty to incels facing near impossible odds of not dying alone. You clearly weren't taught how analogies work.

You're points can't be oversimplified because they were made by a simpleton (you). You straw-manned me when I compared peasants' hopeless poverty with incels' hopeless loneliness, and then you straw-manned me again when I stated that approaching people just trying to do their jobs of finish grocery shopping is not great. You then try to lecture me about straw-manning, you're just a retard.

getting a girlfriend is the same as fishing

And that is why you will never get a girlfriend, lol. Fishing requires really no work except getting your pole properly lined with fishing line, tying the hook, putting on the bait, and when you catch one, and pull the hook out (and if it's a catch-and-release place, hopefully they didn't swallow the hook). Getting one of us actually requires you to do a lot more including making a perfect first impression.

getting a girlfriend is the same as fishing

You really don't understand how analogies work, just live how you couldn't understand my earlier analogy as well.

one of us

Are all women really this dumb as to not understand basic analogies?

Except it's a really bad analogy. Fishing is nowhere like getting a girlfriend. Are all men as dumb as you? Actually no, I take that back: it's just incels like you.

their odds are the same in both examples.

In the examples YOU created, yes. In the examples I created, no. They are different situations with different logics.

Each woman has a 1% chance of being attracted to you. So:
Probability that a specific woman is not attracted to you = 99%
Probability that none of the 50 women are attracted to you = 0.99^50 = 0.605
Therefore, probability that at least one is attracted to you = 1 - 0.605 = 39.5%

Case 2: Community of 200 people (100 women)
Probability none are attracted = 0.99^100 = 0.366
Probability at least one is attracted = 1 - 0.366 = 63.4%

In scenario one the chance of NOT finding a gf is 100-39.5=60.5%
In scenario two the chance of NOT finding a gf is 100-63.4=36.6%
Which is nearly a doubling in your odds of finding a gf it's somewhere in the ballpark of +80% chance. As the population changes your odds change with it, but it doesn't scale linearly with the population.

You're points

You're

Lmao. I could employ one of your tactics here. But, I'll refrain.

100 women vs accountability

can't understand analogy, therefor its bad

fishing is nowhere like getting a girlfriend

*nothing
Did you know fluid models can be used to model crowds escaping a movie theater in the case of a fire. Particles of a fluid are nothing live individuals in a crowded theater, but yet in this case, they behave the same. SciShow had it in a video a while back.

can't understand his analogy is shit

You really area fucking boomer retard. You do realize that the probability of any woman being attracted to Bob also increases as well with increasing population size, she could just as easily go for Bob or Joe, and as population increases, add in Matt and John. They perfectly cancel each-other out, just like with China and the jobs, or the fishermen and the fish.

your analogy is ACK

says it's a bad analogy

can't explain why

Troon logic 100

I'm afraid anons that I must strongly advise against having any involvement whatsoever with women.

It's already been explained to you by another anon, you just don't like the answer.

le tranny

Concession accepted. If you have to resort to that insult (which no one is trolled or bothered by, even troons), then you show you lost.

Why cant women refute their own nature

Some do

or admit to their own mistakes?

some do

They also get hooked up/married very young because why the fuck would I pass on a attractive girl that understand those things? Society lied to you and shaped you to throw away your best years in finding a good partner.

He didn't explain shit, I explained why it was wrong, multiple times, and he's the type who can't understand analogies as well.

you lost

COPE
You couldn't explain shit, just insisted you could, and the boomer-retard failed to understand analogies the whole way.

everyone tells me my analogy is shit, and explained why

I cannot accept it!!! It means I am wrong!!

Coping hard there, anon.

Everyone

One boomer, one troon, neither understand it.
The reason why that boomer's retard 'explanation' is wrong, make sure to read it this time:
You do realize that the probability of any woman being attracted to Bob also increases as well with increasing population size, she could just as easily go for Bob or Joe, and as population increases, add in Matt and John. They perfectly cancel each-other out, just like with China and the jobs, or the fishermen and the fish.

you are wrong, well because reasons

Projection and pure cope.

Except it's not like that at all. That's why your analogy is flat out shit. It was explained to you, and you just flat out ignore it because it proves you wrong. Cope.

They perfectly cancel each-other out

Yeah, no. There's already a 99% chance that the woman is attracted to Joe, Bob, Matt, or John, or any of the other men. Because there's only a 1% chance she's attracted to you.
All this has already been calculated, and you're trying to add the calculation in again to artificially reduce your own chances to make it seem like it's not worth trying.