The blackpill is true.... kind of

I'm not saying that incels are right about women but what I am saying is that the blackpill has made women associate ugly men with incels.

Women used to find various of males attractive but since there is a risk that the short guy (just an example could be the ugky guy lol ) ans is blackpilled and hate women women may as well go for the tall guy who doesn't have a chip on his shoulder.

Men basically ruined it for themselves. There were plenty of women who were accepting of your flaws but now when said men are associated with inceldom we no longer want them. May as well go for "chad" whom according to incels can't be an incel.

Men basically ruined it for themselves.

Hello foid, how are you today?

Women used to find various of males attractive

I'm sure they got wet for their NW4 fat hubbies, and didn't just marry them for social reasons

tall guy who doesn't have a chip on his shoulder.

but if a short guy is like that he's arrogant and self centered
prejudice is millenia older than the blackpill, my guy

Women don't care about height this is a troonslop bait thread or some brown jeet thread.

when they can sniff out your anonymous internet messageboard posts about being frustrated that whores give themselves to abusechads but will somehow never sniff out the abusechad

Its YOUR fault for being genetically inferior

Just say you embrace social Darwinism and stop lying to people already you pathetic normie pig. At least I'm honest about it and think short, balding, ugly men and fat and ugly women should have access to euthanasia. It would be better this way LMAO

Men basically ruined it for themselves. There were plenty of women who were accepting of your flaws but now when said men are associated with inceldom we no longer want them. May as well go for "chad" whom according to incels can't be an incel.

No there wasn't, and you're just jumping through hoops to rationalize how picky women are, about looks, compared to men.

you are personally responsible for mainstream propaganda

Oligarchs are funny

Women don't care about height

Delusional cope, women globally like taller men, and North American women especially are height eugenicists
If you ask women about their dream guy, the amount who will start off with "tall..." is unreal

I'm fine. How are you?

I'm sure they got wet for their NW4 fat hubbies

My ex was fat. It's not your looks. It's your personality. Idk what N4W is.

but if a short guy is like that he's arrogant and self centered

I hate both Arrogant tall men and Arrogant short men. I'd prefer a bf who is kind and affectionate.

prejudice is millenia older than the blackpill, my guy

Short men have never been oppressed.

Just say you embrace social Darwinism and stop lying to people already you pathetic normie pig

I'm not lying. If the manosphere didn't exist men wouldn't have such problems right now with dating. Women have started to associate ugliness with wickedness and you can blame incels for that.

At least I'm honest about it and think short, balding, ugly men and fat and ugly women should have access to euthanasia.

You are an awful human being.

No there wasn't

Okay, whatever you say.

and you're just jumping through hoops to rationalize how picky women are

Knowing that average or ugly men are more susceptible to being incels why shouldn't women avoid them? Answer me that please lmao

I'm not an awful human being I'm just honest. It would be better if all uggos (including myself) could have access to euthanasia

My ex was fat

Why where you with him? Were you sexually attracted to him?

Idk what N4W is

Late stage of male pattern baldness

we no longer want them

yeah, that's not problem. It's moar than mutual. I'm personally too old, but the younger generations would be happy with AI robotic waifus and husbandos anyway. The only reason for biological males and females to cooperate are children. But even having children is highly debatable, esp. if the the average lifespan will increase drastically again and the humans will just de-fact become nigh or completely immortal through tech. They do speculate that the first human to live over 150 years long will be from gen alpha and is already born.
Anyway, all I'm saying is that all of you are putting too much shit onto human relationships and all that bs in 2025. Think in a futuristic way, because the future is already here, yet you retards still act as if it's 1790 or 1830 or something. I do mean both sexes.
TL;DR: Nothingburger. Not even the issues in the future world that is coming and is partially already here.

I'm fine. How are you?

Doing alright, thanks for asking.

If the manosphere didn't exist men wouldn't have such problems right now with dating.

You're probably right. Most men would be a complete and utter doormat.

How does it feel to know that future societies will use your existence as a warning to never give women too much freedom?

I hate both Arrogant tall men and Arrogant short men

lol, lmao

Short men have never been oppressed.

over human history, less than 30% of all males reproduced. who, pray tell, was always selected over the other?

Knowing that average or ugly men are more susceptible to being incels why shouldn't women avoid them? Answer me that please lmao

Attractive men are prone to misogynistic and gross behaviors and attitudes to women too, it happens all the time actually. I'm a literal incel and don't subscribe to redpill, but my fuckboy chad cousin who is constantly having girls lust after him, is basically Andrew Tate tier towards women. You're just biased because you don't want to feel bad that you view the majority of men as too ugly for you.

No you silly bastard you're putting the cart before the horse. Ugly men are fundamentally sexually undesirable to women so they make up justifications post-hoc as to why they won't fuck them.

And the reason that women were with ugly men more in the past, is really clear. Women used to be much more financially and socially dependent on men, because they had less freedoms. Men were seen as more of a means to an end, so women didn't have the option to be as picky about looks as they wanted.

And it's especially easier for them now with online dating and a much larger pool of men to date. Attractive men are having sex more than ever, while unattractive men are having sex less than ever. And you might say "that's ridiculous, women aren't having sex with the same guys." Yes, they are, just not at the same time because women have no issue being single over being with an ugly man.

I'm not lying. If the manosphere didn't exist men wouldn't have such problems right now with dating. Women have started to associate ugliness with wickedness and you can blame incels for that.

That doesn't make any sense and doesn't matter. You're just trying to justify one kind of human stupidity for some reason. All of that shit factually doesn't matter for procreation. And if the procreation is NOT the goal, then there is no point in dating. At all. I mean it.
Humans use to assume that everybody is more or less the same as they are and forever so. Which is completely wrong. Times change, humans change. A lot of people don't want or need to whore and go clubbing every week, etc. Look at the dying bar industry, as an example. That's a direct indicator of the changing societal landscape.
There will always be literal manwhores and bitchwhores who go to discos and fuck each other and collect std's like pokemon, sure. Except they're a minority (or will be very soon) and not a "normal" way of spending free time.
What I'm saying is that men and women don't even dating that much in the first place and people are just making too much shit up.
Also, the governmental part doesn't help. All these programs helping single mothers and divorce laws, and all that shit doesn't help the relationships between males and females at all. On the other hand it's obvious that the only goal for some is to have a shitty baby and everything else literally doesn't matter.

If the manosphere didn't exist men wouldn't have such problems right now with dating

Mind telling whats in this graph ?

Attractive men are having sex more than ever

this is not true

while unattractive men are having sex less than ever.

also not true.
Typical mistake of thinking that everybody is the same as the stereotypes and the media portray them. Let me ask you this: is Keanu Reeves a manwhore and a complete sexual degenerate? Like so many other "hollywood stars"? It's almost as if a decent human being is decent regardless of the appearance, status, amount of money, and most importantly, the amount of opportunities to do bad shit and get away with it.
My point in short is, is that way more people are not having any sex than you think. This includes attractive people, yes, especially men. Believe it or not, men have standards and a brain in the 21st century. Only braindead drooling retards are impressed by the fairy tales about Dschingis Khan and some such bulllshit.
Human achievement, esp. male achievement in general never was getting an std after fucking some ugly or mid whore. Look at the world MEN have built up, that's what men do primarily. Not fucking some retarded mystery meat.

Keanu Reeves is like a 60* year old guy, he has been a star since his teens, you think he didn't have his fill of sex in his youth?

>Believe it or not, men have standards and a brain in the 21st century. Only braindead drooling retards are impressed by the fairy tales about Dschingis Khan and some such bulllshit.

Human achievement, esp. male achievement in general never was getting an std after fucking some ugly or mid whore. Look at the world MEN have built up, that's what men do primarily. Not fucking some retarded mystery meat.

You have no understanding of men, if you think this. Men are extremely sexual, and the only reason they're not having sex 24/7 is because women gatekeep it and expect them to put in the work. Or at least, they used to, now sex is just gatekept for handsome guys and hard work means jack shit to women now because they're independent now (which I'm not arguing should be taken away), or women have their needs met by the government if they aren't independent.

Just look at gay men, so many of them have body counts in the dozens, and it's entirely because they don't gatekeep the way women do, it's male sexuality, unabated.

What a brutal chart lmao

dude most women have no clue about incel ideology, there's no way that they worry about people being blackpilled. The call man sluts who watch andrew tate and are mean to women and have tons of sex incel

Yeah they never have a reply to this so they ignore it.
Post it every time someone says being an incel is your fault

why she hitting me with the tranny stare?

You weren't going to go for short men in the first place so why bring it up?

I'm not OP but I don't know what to infer from the chart other than that women live longer desu.

you think he didn't have his fill of sex in his youth?

He did not. You're making a terrible mistake by assuming that men praise and are impressed by men having a lot of sex. Especially random sex. It's certainly one of the lies ever told. A harmful myth. Truth is, there is nothing more disgusting, repulsive, and destructive in this world as a manwhore. All men know this. It's just that some retards are manwhores. I mean factually. There are no 200iq men sleeping around. No 200iq man is an absent father of his own volition. Intelligence in general allows for supreme control over primitive impulses such as "pp getting hard must fuck random mystery hole. no other way".

You have no understanding of men, if you think this.

I am a grown man, who has rejected women, you fucking imbecile.

Men are extremely sexual

No, we're not. Shit is completely individual. And even then the lack of topics to discuss except sex (all the time) and bitches is the indicator of absent intelligence. Do you know what men, who go on to have families and babies or stay single discuss? Fucking engineering of airplanes, physics, laws of the universe, and shit like that. Rarely men do talk about sex. And the promiscuity is never a positive.

and the only reason they're not having sex 24/7 is because women gatekeep it and expect them to put in the work.

The reason is because we don't want, have, or need to.

Or at least, they used to

you're confused, alright. Mistaken, conflating. I'm talking about MEN. Straight men, who are not sexual degenerates. You're talking about 13 and 14 year old boys going through puberty, who would fuck anything given an opportunity, because that's puberty for you.

Just look at gay men

a lot of them are sexual degenerates, yes.

so many of them have body counts in the dozens

and many do not. I know gay guys, who don't fuck around at all.

and it's entirely because they don't gatekeep the way women do, it's male sexuality, unabated.

Wrong. You're stereotyping.

Classic example of the NAXALT fallacy

There are more young men than young women so there will always be incels no matter what. Also femcels arent real

There are no 200iq men sleeping around

Intelligence isnt attractive to women so these 200iq men dont have that option anyway. The rest is cope

you're a retard. What I'm pointing out, is that the majority are NOT like it. Normal way, in fact, is to NOT be a sexual degenerate as a man.
Look at interests men have and do. Let's take Keanu Reeves again. Dude is into all sorts of shit, like music, motorcycles, etc... One thing the man is not preoccupied with is having endless degenerate sex.
Sex is so fucking overrated by a tiny minority of degenerate manwhores and bitchwhores it's insane.
Sex is a tiny part of human life, mathematically even. And men especially, speaking as a man, have such a wide variety of interests, obsessions, and activities, that it's a wonder some men put so much value onto sex in the first place.

He did not.

And you know this how?

I agree with you, desu, not everything should be or is about sex itself. But, it's not even about sex, men want to be desired and have companionship often too, and they're not receiving that now. That shit is demoralizing to men but maybe you can't understand because you're far on the spectrum of autism. I know this is a robot board but please stay out of topics you have no understanding of.

1-2% more men than women in that age range = half of men sexless somehow? Doesn't add up.

Intelligence isnt attractive to women

not directly, but what intelligence gives birth to is very attractive to any woman. Status, options to make money, opportunities in life, and so on. Besides, not all women are retarded. In this, the most retarded humans beings are men on the extreme tail of the bell curve distribution. Most females are mid/median/average intelligence.

so these 200iq men dont have that option anyway.

if we're doing this, then you must be 80iq, because it is clear, that you're vastly underestimating intelligence and options it creates.

The rest is cope

well, since you're 80 iq, it would be a mistake to expect a factual rebuttal or anything of sorts...
This is not ad-hom for the sake of ad-hom by the way. Just highlighting your inability to engage with ideas, analysis, and so forth. And what a fucking coincidence, of all people, an average intelligenec male at best, can't think of things except sex. Which just reinforces my points again.

Why where you with him?

Because he was funny and I thought that he was cute.

Were you sexually attracted to him?

Yes.

Late stage of male pattern baldness

I admit that I draw the line with balding, but there are plenty of women who date bald men.

You're probably right. Most men would be a complete and utter doormat.

More like smart, funny and kind. Everything that men are supposed to be.

over human history, less than 30% of all males reproduced

Most people died in famines before they even got the chance to reproduce.

Attractive men are prone to misogynistic and gross behaviors and attitudes to women too

Of course they are but they are less likely to be unsuccessful with women which apparently is the core of being an incel.

You're just biased because you don't want to feel bad that you view the majority of men as too ugly for you.

Am I not allowed to have standards?

Ugly men are fundamentally sexually undesirable to women

Looks is subjective to some degree and personality matters. Just because you aren't Chad doesn't mean that no one will ever love you.

You weren't going to go for short men in the first place so why bring it up?

Maybe I'm not but there are plenty of women who do. Don't lose your hope.

More like 5 to 10 %
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operational_sex_ratio
Add the fact that women often date older than them
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_disparity_in_sexual_relationships
then add hypergamy/polygamy/chads-harem
theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jul/04/do-we-have-the-same-boyfriend-head-to-social-media-and-you-might-find-out
do the math urself and it more or less checks out

Status, options to make money, opportunities in life, and so on

Little to no importance next to looks
A few inches of height are worth millions of dollars

Because he was funny and I thought that he was cute.

Then why did you break up with him? And wouldn't you have been significantly more attracted to him if he wasn't fat?

they don't care about height nearly as much as you think

If you ask women about their dream guy

dream guy

It's called dreaming for a reason.

Just highlighting your inability to engage with ideas, analysis, and so forth

How did you manage to see all of that in a single, one line post ?

Most people died in famines before they even got the chance to reproduce.

toddler tier knowledge of history
youre that troon that makes time wasting threads and contradicts everyone with poor arguments. please get a job

Of course they are but they are less likely to be unsuccessful with women which apparently is the core of being an incel.

So you're saying incels are fault for not being successful with women because they are unsuccessful with women? Do you not see the circular reasoning you're using? You will do anything except acknowledge that men who are not the best-looking, have a difficult time with women.

Polygamy was quite common in a lot of ancient societies. You would see high genetic worth and status men with whole harems

Women used to find various of males attractive

They never did. They were forced to settle with guys they didn't like. Also, if they used to find short guys attractive, then how or why did that suddenly change? Did short men suddenly, for no reason at all, start to feel bad about their height? That makes no sense. Short men have always been made fun of, even if they're in positions of power, see Napoleon, who wasn't even short for his time, but was short among the aristocrats.

women may as well go for the tall guy who doesn't have a chip on his shoulder

That's an excuse to not seem shallow. Personality doesn't matter, a tall and attractive guy could have the world's biggest chip on his shoulder and it suddenly wouldn't be an issue anymore.

There were plenty of women who were accepting of your flaws

flaws

You said it yourself. There was never any attraction, this is just an excuse.

Little to no importance next to looks

you're confused again, because you're trying to push a very narrow narrative for some reason. There is nothing in this world, that prevents an average bald manlet, but with a great job, 1% income, let's say (people like this exist) to hire "hookers" for days and fuck them non-stop, if they're inclined to do so. Also, gold diggers exist. And you can fuck them, you might even have children with them.
I have no idea why you're trying to push the idea of some pure form of sex that isn't transactional and is like a retarded romanticized dream of human relationships from like years 1305 or 1867.
You do know that all this romantic bullshit, chivalry, courting, bs, was invented during the middle ages in France, right? As in, it's not a real dynamic between biological sexes and never was.

A few inches of height are worth millions of dollars

yup, but they're not a must at all. Good income and high status do more than height.
Sure you might pedal the same ole narrative of the lack of passion and being an object used for resources, but your manwhore in your isolated example is like a human sex toy, that is just being used sex, because bitches later kill each other just to marry somebody like Jeff Bezos anyway.
Stop living in a world of lies, anon. Better get a hobby.

le self filling prophesy

Again, foids using another cope to despise ugly short men

Maybe I'm not but there are plenty of women who do

Kek so why even bring it up you cunt?. what is your minimum height for a guy then?

Don't loose hope

Nah I already have

How did you manage to see all of that in a single, one line post ?

it is evident for anybody with an average or an above average iq, because one doesn't simply dismiss ideas for no reason and with no basis to do so. Either it's not a good faith discussion or the person can't engage in a thorough discussion.

There is nothing in this world, that prevents an average bald manlet, but with a great job, 1% income, let's say (people like this exist) to hire "hookers" for days and fuck them non-stop, if they're inclined to do so

Yes. And they do that.
Im neither rich nor good looking doe.

I have no idea why you're trying to push the idea of some pure form of sex that isn't transactional and is like a retarded romanticized dream of human relationships from like years 1305 or 1867.

You do know that all this romantic bullshit, chivalry, courting, bs, was invented during the middle ages in France, right?

Ive never did that doe. My first post itt was: >Good income and high status do more than height.
incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#A_man_having_the_.22correct.22_race.2C_height.2C_and_face_is_worth_millions_of_dollars_to_women
Cope

because bitches later kill each other just to marry somebody like Jeff Bezos anyway.

To divorce rape him and steal billions ?

Suicide pods are coming you don't have to suffer anymore

because one doesn't simply dismiss ideas for no reason and with no basis to do so

Good thing i didnt do that then.
Theres enough evidence if u look for it. Im tired of arguing woth retards like you
incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#High_IQ_men_are_more_likely_to_remain_virgins_longer

Am I not allowed to have standards?

You're allowed to have standards but when the majority of women have standards that say the majority of men are trash, for things they cannot change, then obviously most men are gonna develop grievances. If I showed you a 5/10 man, you'd say he's closer to a 2, and if I showed you an 7/10 man, you'd say he's closer to a 5, and want nothing to do with him. There are videos of exactly this where women are asked to rate decent-looking professional athletes and their opinions of them are scaling. Every woman thinks she's a model and unless a man is angelically handsome, then he's trash. Your standards are your right but on a societal scale, they're evil. Most men will see a 5/10 women, and be happy to have a family with a woman who looked like that.

Im neither rich nor good looking doe.

you own problem. Universe is not fair and everything is rigged, but you still can get into good trades and get a full time job and later create your own business in trades and make good money. Literally nothing is holding your back from having a career except for yourself.
I mean you can choose to be poor too, why not. It just depends on what you want to yourself. Which has nothing to do with bitches or blackpill.

Cope

No, the blackpillets is coping here. Because chad doesn't settle, and blackpillets know this. If a bitch wants to settle, for whatever reason, she will have to choose from non-chad according to blackpill itself. And women prefer to choose status and money for their children.

To divorce rape him and steal billions ?

Everything is always a trade-off. Nobody lives in a fairy tale (maybe 0.0000001% of the luckiest motherfuckers ever). Do you want a sexy bitch and to have children with her or do you want to keep your millions to yourself? Choice is yours.
Plus, people really overestimate the dynamic and activity of people in their 30's and 40's. Which is relatively young and very productive, most productive perhaps. A lot of people choose to settle the fuck down with a partner in their 40's and height doesn't play a role there anymore at all.

you own problem. Universe is not fair and everything is rigged, but you still can get into good trades and get a full time job and later create your own business in trades and make good money. Literally nothing is holding your back from having a career except for yourself.

I mean you can choose to be poor too, why not. It just depends on what you want to yourself. Which has nothing to do with bitches or blackpill.

High iq man we got here.
Homeless ? Just buy a house
Poor ? Just get money
Unemployed ? Just get a job
Starving ? Just eat some food
Most of the world problem solved, you should run for office

incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#High_IQ_men_are_more_likely_to_remain_virgins_longer

Not even close to being the own you think it is. Yawn.
1. First of all, social sciences are not reliable. We all know that. Let's not cherry pick when the studies suit our "purpose" and "argument" and are therefore legit and when they do not and aren't. One must be able to replicate the studies again, and again, and again, over and over, for them to be set in stone as the basis of an argument. Regardless, let's move past this tangent.
2. I have never argued otherwise. In fact, I have directly stated multiple times, that people with higher IQ opt to engage in activities other than sex. Which doesn't factually lower their opportunities or chances to have sex, because it's a completely different issue. You're trying to conflate things again, arguing something different.

high iq humans remain virgins for longer

yeah I know. Everybody does. Longer or even forever. Now what? There are more than a few incredibly famous virgins historically. All high iq.
How does it lower the chances of having sex? Protip: It doesn't. What factually happens is high iq people OPT to do something else. They choose to not have relationships/sex. Kinda like monks can have a vow of celibacy, except without all of the show and drama. Hookers exist, prostitution is rampant since time immemorial, and so being a virgin for life is 100% a choice, free will, for any man. Factually.
3. You do understand that you have unironically just proven and reinforced all of my previous points of higher IQ individuals remaining decent beings and not becoming manwhores despite having more opportunities to engage in degenerate activities? You do know, that you're not arguing against me, but provide the evidence that the blackpill agrees with me? top kek, anon.

High iq man we got here.

such a claim was never made. you infer and assume. but worst of all, trying to put words into my mouth. typical.

Homeless ? Just buy a house

strawman

Poor ? Just get money

strawman

Unemployed ? Just get a job

unironically yes. but also a strawman, because I know how and what retards think. Esp. young retards. I also know how things factually are in life.

Starving ? Just eat some food

strawman ofc, but also unironically yes. Your lazy worthless fatass isn't starving and never has, which is why you don't have a clue what the fuck you're saying. When you're starving to death, you will find food. You will fucking murder people to cannibalize, if you have to eat to survive. But of course being a fat useless imbecile you are, you're spouting bullshit.

Most of the world problem solved, you should run for office

Typical. Are you at least 18? Let me tell you as a straight adult man: the only person ever in this universe who will (be able too) solve YOUR problems is YOU. Nobody else gives a shit. I can give an off hand advice of starting to learn something you don't like, discipline yourself, and take on a shit job, because you WILL have to. And you WILL do it, anyway. That's the path forward always. The only question is how many years will you waste and reject reality like a delusional retarded crybaby worthless piece of shit you are.
Tate, as much of a balding wannabe loser he is, is factually right, you know. You, as a man, create your own worth. Start now, if you want to have more. Nobody else gives a shit.

First of all, social sciences are not reliable. We all know that. Let's not cherry pick when the studies suit our "purpose" and "argument" and are therefore legit and when they do not and aren't. One must be able to replicate the studies again, and again, and again, over and over, for them to be set in stone as the basis of an argument. Regardless, let's move past this tangent.

You provided zero studies for your claims.
Cope

people with higher IQ opt to engage in activities other than sex

Prove it.

high iq people OPT to do something else. They choose to not have relationships/sex

Prove it.

despite having more opportunities to engage in degenerate activities

Prove it.

Hookers exist, prostitution is rampant

Glowniggers will get the rope. Prostitution is illegal in my country and yes lots of people have been jail for it.

You do know, that you're not arguing against me, but provide the evidence that the blackpill agrees with me?

I didnt. You just coped and said: "the science isnt reliable when i dont agree with it"

It's the initiation ritual of a young man to do the worst job for terrible pay for a few months.

Nepobaby moment. Some people work these "worst jobs" their entire lives cause they have no other opportunities.

You're changing topic and the idea that is being argued about on the fly again

I didnt doe

Yes, there are problems that cannot be solved. Like the death of your children

Or being poor and ugly.

However, if anybody can solve any of your problems at all, it is still only YOU

True i "solve" my poverty problem by shoplifting. I'll have to "solve" my ugliness problem by raping a bitch.

no skills, no talents, no lvlups, no connections, no knowledge

All of that is mostly deterministic, caused by genetic and socioeconomic factors.

Then why did you break up with him?

Because he cheated on me.

And wouldn't you have been significantly more attracted to him if he wasn't fat?

Idk? Maybe? I still fell for him though.

So you're saying incels are fault for not being successful with women because they are unsuccessful with women?

I'm saying that incels are single for various reasons and them struggling in the first place is the result of that.

You will do anything except acknowledge that men who are not the best-looking, have a difficult time with women.

I never said that they don't have it harder. I said that incels and the manosphere has made us associate unattractive men with incels.

They never did. They were forced to settle with guys they didn't like

I should've mentioned that I was referring to the early 90s to late 2000s. Not the time when we were literally forced into marriage against our will.

Also, if they used to find short guys attractive, then how or why did that suddenly change?

It's nuanced. Some short guys are attractive. The funny ones are still attractive.

Did short men suddenly, for no reason at all, start to feel bad about their height? That makes no sense. Short men have always been made fun of

By other men.
I don't despise ugly or short men. I'm just not always attracted to them but looks is subjective so a lot of women will be.

Kek so why even bring it up you cunt?

To show that looks are subjective. I may not prefer short guys but other women will. I'm evidence that looks are subjective.

what is your minimum height for a guy then?

5'11? But most of all I want someone who is kind and loyal.

You're allowed to have standards but when the majority of women have standards that say the majority of men are trash

This is blackpill brainrot. No one thinks that most men are trash.

If I showed you a 5/10 man, you'd say he's closer to a 2,

Because looks are subjective.
6 foot 2 I think.

No one thinks that most men are trash.

Somebody post the radfem compilation

the objective reality is just objective reality

Tautology, yes

in the U.S.

Nice assumption faggot

Whatever happened to getting into a trade, making decent money,

Im a construction worker, the pay is shit, but that was my only opportunity, as i was fired from the retail job i had.

average intelligence (retarded from my pov)

So i was right here:

High iq man we got here.

Thats weird cause u replied to that:

such a claim was never made. you infer and assume. but worst of all, trying to put words into my mouth.

So which one is it ?

you certainly know what I think better than I do,

I apparently do, it seems

No
Chad=high vaginal tingles
NonChad=no vaginal tingles
Thus Chad is good, and non Chad is bad. Im so sick of fucking cucks trying to create walls of text to try and make sense of disgusting roastie behavior when in reality is just completely animalistic and simple. This must break their cuck minds that women are just wild beast not le fairer sex.

Ex cheated on you

6'2

He had the ability to cheat because of his height

Some short guys are attractive

In what way?, i am 5'7 no women will find me sexually attractive despite having a good face kek, especially you

Short men are made fun of by other men

Both but mainly women all over social media saying they hate short men and want them dead and you are probably one of those cunts. if there existed a button that would kill off all short men in brutal agonizing ways you would press it in a heart beat while you we you think of all the tall chads railing you

This is blackpill brainrot. No one thinks that most men are trash.

Bait

By other men.

Nice gaslighting attempt cunt

hundreds possibly thousands of women will line up to fuck a guy like wade wilson who's only know for killing women

but men are at fault because they hurt women's feelings posting in certain communities

tranny OP can't stop spamming obvious lies

I saw the whole "ugly men are associated with incels" talking point coming to fruition from a mile away. It's a little frustrating seeing the types of mental gymnastics done to reject uggos without feeling like you're shallow.

Granted the end will be the same either way, but it's annoying how dishonest normies truly are. Can't trust them whatsoever.

It's been known since forever uglier people are treated worse than good looking ones regardless. Women still fuck attractive guys who hate, beat, kill or rape women. OP is just spamming the same nonsense they've been doing for years while pretending they're a woman or different person.

Anon Babble then. I don't know why you're proud to be a member of a degenerate club, however. Something tells me, chances are, I've been on the internet longer, than you have been alive. But I might be mistaken.

their entire lives cause they have no other opportunities.

this is factually untrue. but being a retarded lazy piece of shit, for example, is of course more comfy than to apply to other jobs or to do discipline yourself and learn new things.
same as above

I've been on the internet longer, than you have been alive.

Weird cause you told me earlier to stop wasting time ( >how many years will you waste).

this is factually untrue

Its true doe.

retarded lazy piece of shit

All genetic btw

Yeah, I'm not one to get too bothered about people like OP since they're mostly likely just larp. I wanted to comment more on the sentiment they were espousing. I've seen it a couple times on normie spaces and even once irl. It's just so tiresome

It's nuanced. Some short guys are attractive. The funny ones are still attractive.

You didn't answer my question in any manner + you're lying.

By other men.

Yes, but by women as well. Being a short guy is always a negative when dealing with other people. Women tend to try to soften rejections and give alternative explanations as to why they rejected some short guy, but there's plenty of times where they're honest and tell it straight and simple.

To show that looks are subjective. I may not prefer short guys but other women will. I'm evidence that looks are subjective.

You and nearly every other woman. How are you evidence of that when your requirement aligns perfectly with the expected requirements? It's always an endless chain of

I'd rather not be with a short guy, but I'm sure the next woman would be glad to

I'd rather not be with a short guy, but I'm sure the next woman would be glad to

I'd rather not be with a short guy, but I'm sure the next woman would be glad to

Cope. You were always chad only.

I'm not saying that incels are right about women

...BUT incels just happened to nail it on the head

Women used to find various of males attractive

[CITATION NEEDED]

Men basically ruined it for themselves. There were plenty of women who were accepting of your flaws but now when said men are associated with inceldom we no longer want them.

Fuck you nigger. You never did.

Think in a futuristic way, because the future is already here, yet you retards still act as if it's 1790 or 1830 or something.

None of the actual happenings will happen in my lifetime.