I hate her

Question

I hate her

be me

go on a first date with a girl at a restaurant which served chicken steak and milkshakes

goes well

she gets picked up by her mom at the end since she doesnt have a license

all is good

go on a second date with her

she wanted to watch pic related since she likes The Weekend. This is already a red flag because she likes rap

wtv we go

at the very beginning of the film there is a closeup of The Weekends face and she whispers the following:

oh my god he is so sexy/hot

i start having a mini panic attack from being so livid. The last time this happened to me was in high school and I never wanted to receive that kind of disrespect ever again

i debate whether to just walk out of the theater in the middle of the movie

choose to stay

after the movie I ask if she is hungry and she said she already ate. I told her that I am hungry so we can walk to some restaurant

as we are walking she says shes leaving because shes tired and her mom is picking her up.

we hugged goodbye but I lost my appetite from all the disappointment so I just go home

she just sends me a text rn saying: Hey im so sorry I didnt stay longer I was just feeling really tired.

On top of that she was not physical with me at all in the movie. Maybe she is not attracted to me. Would I be right to just cut her loose either through ghosting her or telling her directly? I feel like the former would be justified since she disrespected me.
Alternatively should I see for sure if she is attracted to me or not so I may get some puss? It is not looking likely though. If I choose this then how should I answer her text?

This is what it is like for zoomer guys in the United States or the West overall btw.

The weekend is not rap

I dont know what the weekend is

On second date

Not physical

There's a general rule about that obviously don't expect anything on the first date pretty sure also dont expect anything on the second date (could be wrong tho) after how many dates/how long would it be fair to expect intimacy?

Dude I have no fucking clue. Im the one asking questions.

Its all black music so you get the gist of it.

Generally it is socially accepted that you do physical stuff on the 3rd date.

oh ok i see. the issue is that you're a fucking moron anon.

Unless youre a chad. Then you can do what you want whenever you want.

anon on r9k is getting his panties in a twist because im using the term rap as umbrella term for black music

kek

Sex appeal is pretty universal. There are some people that exude it. The fact she felt open enough to say wasn't disrespectful it was just pointing out an individual has sex appeal. It is not a common trait. But if you feel uncomfortable don't waste time and move on. Or test the waters and say let's go see whomever is hottest chick right now in concert and tell her you really want to go because x woman is so hot. If she says yes let's go then she's a pretty open person. If she balks and says what do you mean she's hot and blows up, probably time to move on.

So I have to play all of these games now?

you had a panic attack and cried when faced with a shit test so yeah that's to be expected

you should have said "hey, this is OUR date and he's not invited" or idk maybe just punched her in the face when she said that shit because it's really unacceptable and stupid

the weeknd

hot

Lmao and ghost her cause if she is lusting after another man straight to your face she doesnt give a fuck about you and the fact she ended the date early means shes not interested in being with you.

I didnt cry.

you should have said "hey, this is OUR date and he's not invited"

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Yes thats what Im thinking unfortunately. Why do you think she texted me to apologize and say she was tired though? Just to virtue signal?

because she wanted to clear her conscience and you forgiving her for that without bringing up anything else pretty much means you forgive her for everything

well shit, I just told her: no worries, i understand.
Im honestly fucking done. I feel so cucked.
So I can expect her to ghost me now right?

I can't tell you what to expect, but I can tell you that you should be glad if she does ghost you. She's an immature selfish twat.

You shouldn't need to borderline groom a woman's child brain in order to get a relationship out of her, you need to just date older women instead of teenagers or something.

And yeah, I know, "all women are mentally children," sure, but at least shoot for one that's more mature than a six year old

You shouldn't need to borderline groom a woman's child brain in order to get a relationship out of her

True! Refreshing to see someone say this. But desu I mostly just want sex at this point
And anon, I am currently in my early twenties. I have been on dates and had situationships with women whose ages span 18-27. There are all immature and disappointing. The only realistic solution is to date women who are 35+ but that sounds so fucking ridiculous considering I am in my early twenties. They are all awful in terms of personality.

had situationships with women whose ages span 18-27

Mature people don't have situationships or casual sex. Think on that.

At least you're dating in your lane. Never expect more than this until you yourself can achieve maturity.

The weekend is not rap dumbass, It's pop

panic attack because your girl found a man attractive

The insecurity of some people is just something out of this world.

what would she do if he called a female celebrity hot in front of her
what is maturity? thats a meme

I think you are misunderstanding me. At this point my life, I dont even want a gf. I just want physical pleasure. Thats the only reason I am going on these dates in the first place. It's all in the hopes that I can eventually get physical/sexual with these girls.
All Im asking is for these girls to be attracted to me enough to fuck me, and for them to treat me with the most basic respect. Thats it. Even if two people are only seeing each other casually, they should still not make the other feel like shit.

inb4 youre not mature

Long term relationships are dead, and only men who are suckers or naive get into them now. As a zoomer (who is also average-looking and a manlet) there is no point for a man of my generation to get a gf unless he is really good-looking, tall or high status in some way. However, I am still horny and feel FOMO from time to time, so here I am trying to get pussy. This is coming from a place of calculation, not immaturity.

That's why I purposefully said "people" instead of "men". Ironically this is how he should have responded

Long term relationships are dead

No they're not. You don't know anything about relationships because you are an incel

I Hope your not paying for her shit, anyways plan another day and try being touchy with her, if she doesnt reciprocate just dip and ghost.

You don't know anything about relationships

Then please enlighten me.

you're an immature narcissist excusing your short-sighted selfishness

Ironically this is how he should have responded

So I should have had a full on conversation with her about a hot female celebrity in the middle of the movie?

what is maturity

Not dying because your girl finds another man attractive is a good start.

No, you should have done the same thing she did: compliment the appearance of Ortega's next close up the same way she did to the weekend

Why do you think that? Women have limitless options of men, high standards, and are either allowed or incentivized to not stay monogamous/loyal. I should not be blamed for wanting to avoid long term relationships.

If you spent a fraction of the time you dedicate to incel forums actually doing something constructive, you would have a girlfriend by now

do something constructive

Like?

does maturity come with age?

You tell us what you think something constructive is, and we will see how far gone you are

Not if you keep stuck in places like this ruminating on the worst parts of your mind. Then your maturity is ought to regress

so then if you dont it does (meaning for 99% of humanity it does)
if such a truth is evident, then why bother talking about it? if he doesnt have maturity now he will eventually have it. no point bothering him now about it,

If he doesn't grow out of his incel phase, he will be stuck in this position for a long time

You sure don't HAVE to...

insecure

racist

only after sex

You sound like a genuinely obnoxious person and it's not surprising that you are shooting yourself in the foot over nothing.

You're the one who said it, buddy. What do you mean by "constructive"?

muh incel

you dont know what an incel is, hes going on dates hes not an incel , retard

Tbh he has a point. Simply going on dates does not disqualify one from being an incel.

I should not be blamed

That's why.

Own your actions and behavior and how they impact you, your life, and other people in your life. The immature womem you hate are saying the exact same shit on the opposite side of the aisle, "if they don't have to be responsible for their actions then why should I?"

It's narcissism.

if you can get dates youre not an incel
thats ridiculous
what do you think an incel is

Don't dodge the question, darling. What activities do you think would help you with girls more than shitposting on incels forums all night long?
The answer will be a glimpse into your mind

Just going to a date isn't enough, love. You need to go all the way, otherwise you are just another incel

you are retarded bro its okay

a high-functioning incel

nonverbal incel mad about the existence of high functioning incels

don't forget to practice safe sex if it ever works out

is totally correct

answer the question. i want to hear why you're acting like you don't understand what he means by "constructive" because it made plenty of sense to me.

and i have a girlfriend. a hot one too.

sinking tinnies is constructive, yeah?

OP is out, he doesnt wanna say "lift" or something

GL zoomer

if they don't have to be responsible for their actions then why should I

How do you know the women I interact with are saying this? Please give examples.
The current dating environment is a woman's dream. You must be 30+ since you are so out of touch and dont get this.
No. An incel is a man who cannot get sex or a gf despite wanting one. I have been going on date after date, and no woman wants to get physical with me. I am still on the incel hamster-wheel.
If we are speaking generally, I would say engaging in my personal hobby or padding my resume would be constructive. However, since you are specifically asking about constructive activities in the context of getting girls, then I would say activities related to looksmaxxxing or statusmaxxxing would be constructive (since women primarily select for looks and status). For the former, I already go to the gym, I try to watch what I eat, and I get haircuts that suit me. There is nothing else I can do. I'm already not fat, and I cant change my face and height (i'm 5'7 or 5'8 so now you can see why I struggle with women in the first place).
For statusmaxxxing, there are lots of things one can do as social status contains many components. I can try becoming some sort of local e-celeb/micro-celeb. I can try to be flashy on Instagram and gain more followers. I can try to act neurotypically.

I have no dating experience whatsoever but it seems like she's just using you for free shit at this point. Ghost.

I can try becoming some sort of local e-celeb/micro-celeb

or just known in your community at all. He's right that your time could be spent better almost anywhere but here, but here we all are.

Tbf she did offer to cover the movie tickets the day before the date. She said she felt bad that I offered to pay for them. When I asked why she felt bad she said she doesn't want people to feel she is taking advantage of them. Maybe this was her way of saying to me that she is indeed using me for free shit?

I think you might be overthinking this. She could've gotten a free meal out of you if she was going for value.
Maybe you stiffened up more than you think when she whispered in the theater or something and gave her the ick with your insecurity, but I think you should just play it cool

Bro you said you just want sex tf do you care if she thinks someone is sexy
BREAKING: GIRL SAYS SOME SHIT
MORE ON THIS SHOCKING DEVELOPMENT AT 11:00

engaging in my personal hobby or padding my resume would be constructive

Yes, good.

looksmaxxxing or statusmaxxxing would be constructive

Even better.
You are not fit yet. Like actually buffed with a muscular body. So that's your objective number one.
Getting money is number two.
Neither of those things will happen here.

My goal is to not be some buff hulk/ogre though. Women are not even attracted to that anyways, at least the young ones are not. Im just trying to be lean and toned.

getting money

Women do not care about money. Thats a myth carried down from boomers. You cannot buy genuine desire.
How can I play it cool from here though?
How the hell can I be known in my community? Doesn't that sound fucked up though? No man should have to become some clout-chaser just to get pussy.
I still want to receive basic respect and not feel inadequate or cucked

How can I play it cool from here?

I think you're cooked with this one at this point, but you should probably try to reflect what went wrong. Sounds like it was early in this date to me, something's clearly off with how the date ended. She texts after saying she's just tired though...I think is right about that.
Who knows dude, maybe she just had her own reasons for not liking you too, maybe there wasnt some incident. On to the next

My goal is to not be some buff

Well it should. You are short. Getting a beautiful muscular frame is the only way to truly compensate for that.

I still want to receive basic respect and not feel inadequate or cucked

Bro dump her or fuck her, why are you asking us what to do?

Women are not even attracted to that anyways

They would rather be with a hot bodied dwarf than a meager dwarf

Women do not care about money

Do you really believe that? Of all the retarded shit you said in this thread, that's the most ridiculous one.
Do you think a girl would rather date a poor or a rich man given they are identical in every other regard?
Truly you want to feel sorry for yourself, not actually improve your situation.
Well, you've come to the right place

We will see what she says in the morning, but fuck man, these women are like deer who hears a cracked branch. One small thing and they run away.

How the hell can I be known in my community? Doesn't that sound fucked up though? No man should have to become some clout-chaser just to get pussy.

you don't have to chase clout. Just do anything with any kind of community to it. Join your local thrash metal scene, or hiking club, or bowling league, go to the diner weekday mornings and do crosswords with retirees, whatever fits your actual hobby or interests and involves a bunch of regulars. You do have those, right anon?

We will see what she says in the morning

Good luck

Women do not care about money.

see

Join your local thrash metal scene,

Yo this is perfect for a manlet skele, learn to shred or play a sax or something