Are you in favor of or against nuclear proliferation?

invasion of Ukraine

muh imperialism

Ukraine is younger than my dad, it's just a wannabe NATO/gayrope puppet.

Unironically you should read up about how they illegally made weapons with South Africa. It puts a lot of their disgusting actions to light, like how the whistleblower on their nuclear program was drugged and kidnapped back into Israel from the UK.

you want to return to complete tribalism and baseline animalistic hedonism

No, I just like competition and profit. Chaos is bad. I'm a monarchist too btw.

I wonder what your stance on the Islamic Republic of Iran having nuclear weapons is...

Bin Laden attacking America was justified, but attacking innocent people was not. 9/11 would have been good instead of bad if they just left out the World Trade Center.

Saudi Arabia did 9/11, they're on the list of countries I'd be ok nuking just because I hate them.

Yes but ever country that matters should have an underground city that's built to last 1000 years

why didn't south africa use the nukes on all of the bantustans to create a majority white nation?

it's undeniable that Ukraine was invaded by Russia in its pursuit of a wider sphere to oppose NATO with. Was NATO at fault for expanding to the east? I'd say yes, but Russia is an imperial power even if it is weaker compared to the US.

monarchist

you will not be spared on judgement day
I don't see what that has to do with Iran. Regardless, I agree that the US deserved destruction for its imperialism, but I don't think terrorism which justified the next two and a half decades of US imperialism in the middle east to the general public was the right call.
I think the Saudis are traitors of their people and spoiled desert nomads with no history, however I believe nobody deserves to be nuked. Nuclear weapons should exist merely as a deterrent to ward off attack, only then will the world be at peace.

an underground city that's built to last 1000 years

no such thing, were war to break out all would die except the slimmest margins of the incredibly wealthy. After the dust settles, humanity will go extinct due to an inbreeding bottleneck.
South Africa prioritized its nuclear program as a form of blackmail to garner support from the west. See, apartheid wasn't viewed positively in the west for all of South Africa's history, they could see the writing on the wall when it came to wavering support from the west. So, in order to ensure that support, they would use their nukes on any communist attack from Angola or Zimbabwe which would surely entice the Soviets to respond which would lead to worldwide annihilation. Once the reds fell, they lost that bargaining chip since international communism was all but dead in the water, and they had no intention of nuking their own people (which would certainly catch whites in the blast). Fortunately (or unfortunately to me) the last thing the apartheid government did was dismantle their nuclear capabilities in order to prevent the new majority black state from having them.

I don't think terrorism which justified the next two and a half decades of US imperialism in the middle east to the general public was the right call.

Exactly what I was saying. Right cause, wrong effect.

I'm still curious what you believe as it pertains to Iran having nuclear capabilities...

What effect would the mutually assured destruction of Tel Aviv and Tehran have on the world?

Israel evokes the Sampson Option

...Yes, that IS what I meant by MAD. Again, exactly what bearing would it have on everyone else?

they should have used the nukes for TND
no need for apartheid if all the blacks are dead

Most people don't know this but the Samson option not only entails Israel nuking the population centers of their enemies, but also of their allies. Several Israeli military personnel have gone on record to say that places like Rome, Mecca, Moscow, and several more are in their sights in the event of an attack on Israel deemed irreparable. This of course wouldn't kill everyone off as all countries would be in agreement that the state of Israel needs to go. What this would do however (other than kill most middle easterners) is turn the entire world's populace against the Jews as a whole. Not only would nuking Rome and Mecca cause the people of the world's two largest religions (Catholicism and Islam) to go into a frenzy, but the Jews would entirely lose their lynchpin as they no longer have a nuclear arsenal to threaten their allies with as Golda Meir did during the Yom Kippur war. Expect all Jews to either go extinct or flee to the Dharmic countries where they will still most likely have to go into hiding due to the large Christian and Muslim populations in both these countries seeking reprisal. Also expect Hitler to be redeemed in the eyes of many as the world already swirls into a far more right wing direction. Iran would most likely not have the capabilities to respond very well considering the fact that their airforce is outdated and their nuclear program is only in its infancy, but I'd say that most of Israel as a country would be wiped off the face of the earth as well.
They wouldn't all be wiped out, as many blacks lived closely to white settlements. Even if they desired the complete destruction of South Africa with the noble sacrifice of the whites, they only had six ready nuclear weapons at their peak, not nearly enough for this "total nigger death" that you speak of.

Ukraine was part of the Russian Empire for centuries, and part of the USSR until recently. Then NATO and gayrope pushed western influence and degeneracy in, and this all lead to the revolution of stupidity in 2014. If NATO had it's way, signs in Ukraine would all be in Latin script, tough eastern culture replaced with worship of Avengers Marvel Heroes 7 with an all trans cast, and everyone would live in isolated boomerville suburbs and rely on social media and dating apps for human interaction.

If you want to call invading Ukraine imperialism, whatever, it's based. I don't want to see the western social diseases spread further east.

Saudia Arabia deserves to be vaporized because they are an oiligarchy who is the worst offender in undermining any hope of a livable future for billions, and actively promoting dependence on gas guzzling in developing countries for their own monarchy's future. Vaporizing 30 million is justified to save a few billion.

Lesotho would get fallout from the nuclear weapons, I'm pretty sure that would cause an international incident of some sort.

I understand your sentiments, but regardless of intent, invading a sovereign country for the purpose of keeping it in your sphere of influence falls neatly under the definition of imperialism. You may think it's justified, but by definition it is imperialistic. Personally I see Russia as an unfortunately necessary counterbalance to western atlanticist hegemony. Although with the rise of China, Russia falls more and more to the wayside when it comes to influence in the burgeoning multipolar world.
I agree with you in that the Saudis are part of a degenerate slave state that stands for nothing but greed, hypocrisy, and hedonism. However, what would turning their country into a wasteland accomplish? The Saudis are certainly not the only thing keeping the petrodollar alive and well. Believe me, all nuking the KSA would accomplish is needless mass death along with causing more countries to turn to places like Venezuela for their oil.

I'm a nuclear proliferation accelerationist. In fact, you could say it's my number one goal. I believe every country on the planet should have at the very least a minimum capability emergency nuclear weapons arsenal, and preferably nuclear weapons arsenals capable of extended warfare, in both strategic, and battlefield configurations.

Why, you ask?
1. I believe they are the best, and really only, viable tool for a country to protect itself militarily without fearing "liberation" from the "global community :^)"
2. War was supposed to keep advancing with and through the use of nuclear weapons, as warfare and alcohol are the two main driving factors behind human advancement. Sadly, the cold war and subsequent nuclear hysteria prevented wars from developing the use of nuclear weapons beyond the most typical warhead-missile configuration.
3. It's objectively the most efficient, most powerful, and quickest way to extract energy that humans have developed so far, and it's not even close. It's not even far, it's cosmic. And it's the only means by which humanity will dominate the galaxy and the spaces beyond.

If it were possible to impose an economic blockade on the Saudi's instead of nuke them, I'd be all for it, but 87% of their government budget relies on oil. For them, ditching oil or be cut off from world trade are just synonyms. I guess if smarter countries prevail, they could just be cut off from the rest of the world, and be told to eat shit and starve. I'd be all for that. Venezuela is a traitor country to not only humanity's continued existence, but to their own environmental heritage.

I deeply respect you as a person and an intellectual. You and I are on the same wavelength when it comes to these points. Except for the fact that I believe that nuclear proliferation will be the cause of world peace due to largescale war being impossible, which unfortunately means that miltary technology won't carry human development. Don't worry though, countries will still compete for soft power through things similar to the space race, so not all will be lost and we'll still reach the stars eventually.
Environmentalism is of extreme importance for me, but I still don't think the petrodollar will go anywhere as long as western capitalist hegemony reigns. Removing one oil extracting country will simply cause another to corner the market. If not the Saudis or Venezuelans then what about the Canadians? Russia has the 6th largest proven (key word is proven, siberia is huge) oil reserves on the planet. Nuking them would end the world, and we've already been sanctioning them for 3 years and nothing's come of it. We simply need to look at places like China which provide a shining example of divestment from fossil fuels, as soon as it becomes economical and oil lobbies have their heads removed, the world will abandon oil and the Saudis will sink back into the desert.

Except for the fact that I believe that nuclear proliferation will be the cause of world peace due to largescale war being impossible, which unfortunately means that miltary technology won't carry human development.

I'm okay with this outcome and I actually expect it, too, but I believe that proliferation could, in some instances, cause small scale warfare to use nuclear weapons for a few years, until technology reaches a point that once again creates a gridlock in terms of warfare. Except this time, every country comes out of it with hyper-advanced technological capabilities far surpassing our current standpoint which is a janky blend of 1800s infrastructure and space age tech, held together by by a bad amalgamation of concrete and sweatshops.

Don't worry though, countries will still compete for soft power through things similar to the space race, so not all will be lost and we'll still reach the stars eventually.

This is the end result I desire, no matter what, but it won't be achieved until the tnire world is working on cracking the secrets of nuclear energy.

Frankly, imagine if every citizen has his own personal nuke.
By citizen, I imply that the retarded and the irrational are not citizen anymore.
If we all have our personal nuke, basically, it's the ultimate deterrence but at the individual level.
No one will dares to commit injustice or hurt someone because else, they could explode the whole place.

I've seen people murder each other over 5 dollars. Giving nukes to retarded plebes is an awful idea. All countries collectively have at least a few levelheaded people.

That's why we need to have first-tier citizens and second tier.
As for the process to judge the character of every individual, maybe we could do a simulation and put them under psychedelics so they won't be able to not be genuine.

Space should've been humanities collective goal since the 60s. Yet as soon as the US stopped having to worry about their dick measuring contest with the Soviets they gutted the hell out of NASA. It's a shame really, but a new peer rival like China would certainly be a greater challenge than the USSR. I looke forward to seeing astronauts and taikonauts beating the shit out of each other on the moon.

In favor. Normalize nuclear warfare, billions must die.

wha wha wha I'm a doomer

do you ever get tired of being gay and lame?

i would say that the answer would probably be:
a) dependent on what the conditions are and
b) you cant just ignore the obvious drawbacks

Genuinely what are the drawbacks to properly funding NASA. 2 billion going to Israel a year instead of 3?

bring nuclear war
I support total north hemisphere death, look at the map, it contains almost all of brown people including africa high population density areas

trips > singles
better luck next time champ

half of Indonesia

Subsaharan Africa

Latin America

Papua New Guinea

white

The only white countries here are the Aussies and Kiwis which both have a shitton of migrants and natives