Do u still believe in love, anonie?

why? why not? what experience has changed u?
i want to see ur story both in friendships / relationships.
me, i can feel my hope barely surviving, suffocated under the weight of all the bad experience accumulated over the years.
i really don't want to let it die, anon.
i also feel like people have changed, like... everyone was just somehow kinder before ~2020, dont u think?
tho im mostly talking about online as i cant interact with people irl

Men can only be loved if they're attractive, wealthy, and/or funny. Since I am none of those, I don't believe in love anymore, at least not for myself.

love exists but it is not for me to experience.

i have talked to the same person every day for over a year. we share the same issue thats rare and we are similar personalities so its easy to stick together. i love him like a long lost little brother and idk what id do if i lost him. so i believe in love still, yes

everyone was just somehow kinder before ~2020, dont u think?

i think thats true, ya. ive tried to become nicer and kinder since then which is weird, like the internet chose collectively the opposite attitudes to me.

No, not anymore, I feel like men aren't capable of loving women like me even if they say otherwise

Being funny is a pretty low bar

I believe in love but it doesn't exists
Even you who claims to desire love is a fraud who has no notion of real love, neither do I
Real love is a foreign concept to us all

believe

yes.

approve

no.
I support both feminism and incel redpill specifically to DESTROY love. Slave cattle doesn't deserve to be happy.

It exists but I am not one to love or be loved. I congratulate and wish for a lifetme of happiness to anyone who finds love.

love that hinges on u being

attractive

wealthy

is quite meaningless and short-lived from what ive seen from the experiences of chad friend.
but yeah im quite blackpilled on dates and shit as well..

it is not for me to experience

why is that so, anony? what about friendships?
i really hope it lasts for you, anonie!
im glad to see something like this is still possible

ive tried to become nicer and kinder since then which is weird, like the internet chose collectively the opposite attitudes to me

yea me too but i guess its reactionary..
its like im trying to do the tiny part that i can to restore some sort of balance to it all
i often began to ignore the complaints of women, because of how much advantage i see they have, due to how much men need them, why do you think you re unloveable?

Love is real but I've grown too cynical and bitter to experience it.

no, at least not in magic fairytale "theres someone for everyone and you live happily ever after" love. the well was already poisoned since my parents got divorced around the time i was 10, but multiple genuinely horrible experiences with girls just kinda destroyed that concept for me (as well as my self esteem). so even if i love a girl im still always prepared for her to eventually just leave me, cheat on me, or whatever so when it does happen it hurts less. self destructive but i just dont care at this point

software

video games

entertainment

marketing

Anon Babble is classified as software

idk about success = expense of others

anything successful will require repeat customers which means they love it and need more of it. Expense of others will mostly be scam that are churn and burn or shady practices such as stealing credit cards and selling them for ~5-10% of their current balance.

by providing a business

these people are most likely wasting valuable money that they could be using to better themselves.

say no to tendies, buy and cook your own wild salmon, same price as mcdonalds meal but you get 3-4 meals and you better yourself

love is real but it hurts, so i'm happy with making friends with people i think are nice

kinder before 2020

not sure, but i think a lot of people that didn't use the internet that much started doing so because of the pandemic, so maybe there was a shift in the mindset of your average internet user, or rather, the average internet person changed.

cant interact with people irl

why?

personality comes from our flaws, anony.
tho yeah, dating would be very hard for you due to not being superficially "good". what about friends?
abuse chads?
i mean, honestly, did you try to go for incels?
like literally ask any of the male sadposters above or elsewhere on this board, you will be the highlight of their life
i struggle with it a bit, but yeah, im way more at peace with myself thinking that i genuinely try to do my best
no doubt remains? what made you give up?
yeah, being too defensive spoils the connection itself.. i hope someone will be able to make u remove your defenses, without stabbing u in the back later
hmm, these things are more like distractions in my view, i think they can even ruin lives in a way.. sorry for being so negative about it tho.

love is real but it hurts

yea ive been through that.. the hope is for one that wont hurt, i guess

maybe there was a shift in the mindset of your average internet user

yea it feels like the old users changed as well to me, i cant really pinpoint why

>cant interact with people irl

why?

i was bullied into hiding i guess, am barely able to talk using my native language now so all my life is online

I'm mentally ill. I don't try to get women or make friends because I don't really want close relationships and I prefer to keep everyone away from me. They don't really like me anyway and are usually just looking for an excuse to backstab me. I have friends entirely because they wish to be friends with me. I don't put a lot of effort into any relationships. I just don't care.

struggle with it a bit, but yeah, im way more at peace with myself thinking that i genuinely try to do my best

thats good, i also struggle abit. but i guess anything worth doing is somewhat difficult. glad youre more at peace with yourself:)

yea ive been through that.. the hope is for one that wont hurt, i guess

it's hard. it's a situation similar to where you repeatedly get hurt, so now i'm like 10 times worse than i was. i'll have to fix myself before finding a person, who wants to deal with a broken man?

yea it feels like the old users changed as well to me, i cant really pinpoint why

i think it's the survival instinct, probably because of the same things i mentioned above. og introverts had to adapt to an internet environment full of "rather normal" people, so it's like when you have an unwelcome guest at home. you start stressing out

i was bullied into hiding i guess, am barely able to talk using my native language now so all my life is online

bullied into hiding? i was there at some point in my life, managed to get out by sheer luck...

depends on the design, there are many predatory methods of extracting the most money out of a customer

everyone needs to fill their entertainment meter, how you choose to do so is up to you

some fill it with alcohol, food, drugs, women, onlyfans, escorts some like video games and other types of online entertainment

you seem to like Anon Babble so what do you do to fill your fun meter?

i mean, honestly, did you try to go for incels?

Only ever talked to guys from this board.
They're all nice in the beginning then gradually turn more avoidant or start treating me like shit. All I do to them is show how much I care and love them which I learned to never do again

no doubt remains? what made you give up?

I cant say I've totally given up. I dont think its possible to completely abandon hope but Im just very cynical about my prospects.
Im horrible at talking to people. Just cant relate to people, Im a very introverted person.
When I think about finding a girl who loves me i cant even imagine her liking me for any of my inherent qualities even ignoring physical attributes.

sounds like ur not cute and have next to nothing going on for you

if incels street away from you maybe eat less and gym more

All I do to them is show how much I care and love them which I learned to never do again

this sounds nice. why do you think they just start pushing you away?
if its not too much work, could you describe yourself a little bit?

I don't like working with meat, it's slimy and gross.
Also I don't want to get diseased from cooking it improperly.
Vegetables are better. They can sit around in your drawers and stuff.
They are cheaper and give good fibre.

I don't think I'm capable of loving a woman anymore at this point. Women have killed every single romantic dream I ever had. Everytime I open up to a woman in private she reveals to me how disgustingly shallow, narcissistic, and sociopathic she is. Then she pretends otherwise in public. Actually, nowadays women don't even have to pretend anymore. They just tell you they're evil and then they dare you to do anything about it. The things I've seen and the things I've heard, I could write an entire book about them. If I had to sum it up I would say that they are nature's eugenicists, and nature is a cruel system built on the suffering of all living beings. Thus women are the prepetrators of this natural cruelty. Women are the progenitors of evil and men are their slaves, killing and dying like apes just to get a crumb of pussy. This planet is an evil and corrupt dystopic shithole where people suffer and propagate their suffering to others. Everyone is biologically programmed to shit out more kids to suffer before they die alone, terrorized, and forgotten. Escapism is the only thing that makes living tolerable.

I don't really want close relationships

They don't really like me anyway and are usually just looking for an excuse to backstab me

hmm anony are u sure ure not being overly defensive and actually dont need closeness?
people dont rly look to intentionally backstab, its usually lack of care and conflict of interests.
best thing is to probably learn to gauge care and give the same amount, dunno
true^^

repeatedly get hurt, so now i'm like 10 times worse than i was. i'll have to fix myself before finding a person, who wants to deal with a broken man?

yea true, nowadays especially.. i guess try to gauge the care someone has for u a bit more, but then again being too defensive kills love. shits hard.

internet environment full of "rather normal" people

internet people seem more fucked than ever, but maybe internet introverts were always more normal? dunno lol

managed to get out by sheer luck

someone pulled you out? kinda what im hoping for, even if its dumb probably

you seem to like Anon Babble so what do you do to fill your fun meter?

i feel like i lost my fun meter, playing vidya and shit isnt rewarding, spent last week literally sitting in a dark room staring at my window. but yea talking to u guys really helps me i think^^

They're all nice in the beginning then gradually turn more avoidant

i see, i actually experienced similar thing trying to make frens on /soc.. but /r9k was pretty nice to me though so idk.. how many times u tried?
anything u notice in urself that could cause it?
yeah i struggle with relating to others and having a personality at times, i think its mostly fear or i just cope maybe..

yea true, nowadays especially.. i guess try to gauge the care someone has for u a bit more, but then again being too defensive kills love. shits hard.

it's like a pull and push game you will never be able to win unless you meet the exact right person. the other thing is, with online dating, people are trying to find the perfect person. if you have 1 flaw, you can be replaced quickly (especially if you are a man)

internet people seem more fucked than ever, but maybe internet introverts were always more normal? dunno lol

do you think so? i think they have always been fucked, it's just that they get exposed more often now

someone pulled you out? kinda what im hoping for, even if its dumb probably

yeah! a group of people did, actually. had i not met them, i would be friendless. how do you spend your days now, OP?

I have never experienced it, but yes i do. Simply because i find the idea that it doesnt really unsettling.

that just means you havent found a business thats willing to provide you with entertainment to the point where your fun meter is full

maybe you should figure out how to do this and create a service yourself to help people in need like yourself

its much easier for people to become their best selves once their fun meters are full, so you are spreading love by making people have a good time

If I had to sum it up I would say that they are nature's eugenicists, and nature is a cruel system built on the suffering of all living beings.

based af, do you know efilism? it sounds very similar

Everyone is biologically programmed to shit out more kids to suffer before they die alone, terrorized, and forgotten.

true as well, ill never have my own kids because of that, even if such an opportunity suddenly arises in my incel life

Escapism is the only thing that makes living tolerable.

but i disagree with this. i see it fine to delude myself with love as long as i make sure not to hurt others in this wretched system.

YES BUT IT'S NOT FOR ME I'M NOT ALLOWED

I am probably overly defensive but I truly don't care for relationships.

people dont rly look to intentionally backstab

You have not suffered as I have.

lack of care and conflict of interests

learn to gauge care and match it

So they're not intentionally betraying me, they're doing it unintentionally because I do not care for them enough? And to stop this should be simply mirroring the care I get? It sounds to me that I have been correct to stay away from relationships.
I'm sorry, I'm sure you have good intentions but you are frustrating me, good day.

Once you grow up and integrate with the normies, you'd be surprised how much everyone sleeps with everyone

based af, do you know efilism? it sounds very similar

Thanks anon. Yeah I think efilism/anti-natalism is the most accurate philosophy to describe my view of the world.

but i disagree with this. i see it fine to delude myself with love as long as i make sure not to hurt others in this wretched system.

That's completely fine. And to be fair I delude myself too but only in the virtual world. It's harder to delude myself in the real world because I've suffered too much in it.

oops fucked up the reply

people are trying to find the perfect person. if you have 1 flaw, you can be replaced quickly

even with friendships, with anything, it feels like theres always a gun pointed at me...

they have always been fucked

back in 2010s i just found friends online, we had fights, we had fun. ghosting/blocking just didnt fucking happen at all

how do you spend your days now, OP?

i try to cut out easy dopamine and talk to u guys on Anon Babble more, i have fear even of doing that.
yea same, i just have to keep hoping
i feel like the fun meter itself isnt needed for me anymore, nothing is worth it without connections imo
tell me more goku! why is that?

You have not suffered as I have.

possible

they're not intentionally betraying me, they're doing it unintentionally because I do not care for them enough

no thats not why, i had no intentions of blaming you anony!
its their fault and they are uncaring, but we have to somewhat adapt to unfair conditions.

I have been correct to stay away from relationships

hmm i dont know... i think its subjective whats best for each of us

you are frustrating me

sorry for that, and good day to you as well^^
so you say love isnt real due to cheating?

if its not fun for you to use Anon Babble, why are you here?

seems like Anon Babble is touching your fun meter ever so slightly

there's little else to live for, eventually. hope is all that's left

BECAUSE I'M UNLOVABLE DIPSHIT WHY ELSE
I FEEL LIKE THE IMPLICATION WAS PRETTY OBVIOUS.

yea ive had these ideas before i knew what efilism is, then watched lots of inmendham too.
u can tell me about your suffering if u want to..
its a way to try to attain connections and to beat my fears but yea ur right anony, i do enjoy chatting with people
did you ever succeed before? tell me your story anon

SURE IT WAS BUT TELL ME MORE ALREADY

there is your fun meter hehe, just dont spend too much time around negative people, if anything cut out all negativity and only do things that make your life better

do it for several years and you'll be great

ima go finish some work & play new elden ring game

dont spend too much time around negative people

im very negative myself, itd be quite unfair i think.. i notice misery in others attracts me, like its relatable? idk

only do things that make your life better

yeah i agree and i try tho i make many mistakes in that

ima go finish some work & play new elden ring game

hf anonie^^

I AM A SCHIZOID LIFTER WITH ZERO MONEY WHO'S MONSTROUSLY UGLY WITH AN UNSTABLE PSYCHE WHO'S HORRIBLE AT CONNECTING WITH OTHERS (LIKELY RESULT OF MY SAIYAN BLOOD), AKA I'M LITERALLY THE EXACT SAME AS MOST OF THE OTHER PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD I FEEL LIKE YOU SHOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THE MATH.

I believe in love. I do because it's convient. I hope that one day I will get to love someone and have someone love me. I hope that loves not only a thing that others do.
youtube.com/watch?v=xnS30GOXDw8

U SOUND LIKE URE JACKED ATLEAST WHICH COULD GIVE U SOME CHANCES IN DATING? U COULD MAYBE GO SUPERSAIYAN INFRONT GORLS TO IMPRESS THEM TOO

I'M LITERALLY THE EXACT SAME AS MOST OF THE OTHER PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD

SURE THERE ARE MANY SIMILARITIES BUT THE DIFFERENCE AND INTEREST IS IN THE DETAILS
same anon, im glad you dont hesitate about it

U SOUND LIKE URE JACKED ATLEAST WHICH COULD GIVE U SOME CHANCES IN DATING?

YOU'RE FUCKING DELUSIONAL IF YOU THINK LIFTING HELPS YOU GET GIRLS

YOU GET JACKED FOR A LOVE OF THE GAME IT POSES ZERO BENEFITS IN ATTRACTING WOMEN.

im currently watching the original eva btw and the last few episodes are getting fucking awesome, how good is the "end of evangelion"?
I THINK IT DOES DESU
ITS COS ITS A SHOW OF STRENGTH ALSO IT MAKES U MORE CONFIDENT.
BUT YEA ITS NOT AS MUCH AS REDPILLERS MAKE IT SEEM METHINKS

how good is the "end of evangelion"?

It's my favorite movie of all time, it's a work of art imo. You are in for some kino.

i see, i almost dropped the original eva before it became really good.. would suck to miss out on it.

sometimes i instead have a question like - is mutual love a thing anyone really experiences?

tho im mostly talking about online as i cant interact with people irl

do you want to be friends op? where do u live

I THINK IT DOES DESU

ITS COS ITS A SHOW OF STRENGTH ALSO IT MAKES U MORE CONFIDENT.

WRONG

ANYONE WHO SAYS THE "ERM JUST BE CONFIDENT" LINE IS RETARDED I GET PLASTERED AND TELL THE BARTENDER I'M THE LEGENDARY SUPER SAIYAN AND THEY STILL DON'T BELIEVE ME LAST TIME IT JUST GOT ME CUT OFF FROM THE BAR I WAS FUCKING PISSED

we could try, anonie
im russian
it would be great if you know or have interest in learning coding, or play cs or something else we can play together, cos i suck at starting things when i dont have shared interests with someone
drop your discord in any case

ANYONE WHO SAYS THE "ERM JUST BE CONFIDENT" LINE IS RETARDED I GET PLASTERED AND TELL THE BARTENDER I'M THE LEGENDARY SUPER SAIYAN

U GOTTA SHOW IT OFF FOR THEM AND GO SUPERSAIYAN RIGHT THEN AND THERE, NO SHIT THEY DONT BELIEVE U OTHERWISE

is mutual love a thing anyone really experiences?

I don't know anon, I don't know. But I would like to believe so because if it isn't I'm not sure I want to live.

yeah, women seem to like me.

LE SIGH YOU JUST DON'T GET IT, KID. YUO COULD NEVER UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A TRUECEL.

NO MATTER WHAT CAGE YOU PUT IT IN AND NO MATTER WHAT LEASH IT WEARS, A DOG IS ALWAYS A DOG.

I believe in love. I've seen it. My mother loves me. My grandparents loved eachother very much
I don't believe however, that a woman (other than my mother) could love me. That's not real
I'm an autistic 5'4 manlet NEET failure. No one could love me romantically

But yes, people have changed. And for the worse. It is the internet's fault. It has rotted their brains, made them stupid, vain, self absorbed, horrible people

i'm a fool for thinking i was deserving of love! a fool!!!!!!! i will not make this mistake again. i will kill myself this summer, i hope.

if it isn't I'm not sure I want to live.

my logic is, i know id definitely love someone who loves me, based on no superficial qualities at all.
so there surely has to be someone else like myself.
might be dumb, but it keeps me going, thinking i just havent met that person yet
happy for you anon, hope u dont hurt them since u implied it as multiple
SURE DOG IS ALWAYS A DOG
BUT DID YOU CONSIDER DOGPILL??

that a woman (other than my mother) could love me. That's not real

i always like how these supposed femcels never try to message guys like you.
ive never seen it happen literally once in my Anon Babble life.
but yeah, life sucks as a male, your biology is impossible to fulfill, a decent cope for me was realizing that fulfilling biology itself is evil for the unborn - efilism.

people have changed. And for the worse. It is the internet's fault.

i dunno about the internet being at fault.
i was literally always living online and the people here became way worse, i guess irl it happened too?

I DON'T PLAN ON LIVING TO SEE 30.

how many failed relationships? it is likely its statistically wrong to decide that just yet, anonie
SAME ACTUALLY, JUST 7 MORE YEARS TO GO, I DONT FEEL LIKE ITS WORTH TRYING ANYTHING ONCE IM 30. MY ONLY HOPE IS Anon Babble TOO WHICH IS FUNNY

i dunno about the internet being at fault.

i was literally always living online and the people here became way worse, i guess irl it happened too?

Nah normalfags started using the internet and they changed it for the worse and it changed them for the worse. That's what happened. They consume brain rotting content, that's how they use it

i always like how these supposed femcels never try to message guys like you

I don't expect them to. I don't feel worth anyone's time, i'm a dead weight. Besides I don't have anything to be "messaged" on and at this point I'd struggle to accept a woman's misplaced admiration for me. It would feel wrong

I am meant to be alone. Feels awful sometimes but I know no other way to be now

you tell a joke/something funny

nobody laughs

chad tells the same joke everyone laughs telling him how funny he is

I think you should kys.

There's one couple that gives me hope on the possibility of something like the romantic love showcased within romance and fantasy stories existing. When I was in middle school, I was friendly with this one girl, she started dating one of her closer friends, and they've been together ever since. They're looksmatched. They share a lot of interests. The last time I saw them I was 20 years old, and they were biking together on a saturday and they both greeted me. They're still together even today, I have them on my social media added.

So it probably happens if you fullfill all of those conditions they have.

I don't feel worth anyone's time, i'm a dead weight.

i see, i hope you can find the strength to change that, friendships could help a lot

I am meant to be alone.

nah, we are all meant to be social and to have close connections, being alone is torturous, but i understand. i just hope you can try again.
sry for slow reply
yea anonie, stories like this still give hope, though the wasted time removes it.
shitty state tbqh
ive even stopped caring about anything superficial that would reduce my chances, even gender.
getting a single caring person from all this wide world is quite hard

love is an action not a belief, online is stupid because there are too many barriers, a social media profile only shows you the marketed side, a discord convo without face and voice only shows you a hollow AI esque soundboard.

Love isn't real. It's a transaction. The man gets sex the woman gets resources. Basically prostitution

Last time I fell in love with someone it was online and he got me harassed by my own friends and his orbiters still harass me to this day.

I loved him unconditionally and all I got was harassment so im a bit burned out on love.

I'm a foid btw and men get pissy when I have the nerve to flirt around and im not their ideal girlfriend

no barriers can stop ideas anon.
but yea i agree online is limiting and i probably only cope with it because i dont dare to step outside..
im not talking only about eros
this reads like gender reversal, is it one?
in any case, i havent once seen a girl proactively try to add a single given up incel guy here.
you would be once in a lifetime chance for someone like that

I fell in love with a discord e-boy, the situation has nothing to do with Anon Babble

How large are your breasts tho?

i see, am retarded
you did prefer him cos he had orbiters, right?

be me

single for 9 years (last time i was 14, now i'm 23)

virgin

meet cute boy on dating app

he's really cute but above all else really smart and kind

first date, we make out, talk life, play vidya, watch netflix, meets my mom

sleep together

i feel invincible

some days pass, he's being really distant and neglectful

get frustrated, don't know what he's thinking

second date, he can't stay overnight but we cuddle and kiss

i get hard, i want to touch him, he won't let me

i ask why

he says because he knows that look on my face

not one of love, but of desperation

i ask him to elaborate

he says he's mine, but i can never be his

he says he lied to me, confesses about his past, why he is the way he is

i hold him and tell him it's okay

i open up about my past, and he's shocked

he's a victim of the same trauma that i caused others

says he lost all empathy for me, and tells me to take care, and leaves

it hurts me so much but i know i did the right thing. i would hurt myself as many times as i needed to make him happy. i hope he's doing well. despite what i've done i still believe i deserve to be loved. but i can't ever bring myself to love myself.

I don't think he was a "chad" and his orbiters only liked him because they circlejerked about hating on me

what did you do to traumatize others?
and definitely get off dating apps if you dont just want one night stands
maybe he wasnt
anyway, try to gauge care next time before letting your feelings free, i guess

something bad. real bad. something that would make it really hard for anyone, especially myself, to love me. but i know it's not impossible.

well as long as you know you won't do it again and can sound convincing enough saying it, you should be fine.
shit im curious though, any hints? its an anonymous board anyway, only jannies will know