So I recently started reading the Bible. I'm currently in Deuteronomy. The thing that sticks with me most is that a lot of what people focus on in the Bible is kind of irrelevant to the broader story.
The first five books are called the Pentateuch, and they're primarily the story of Moses, Aaron, and the Israelites. The only book that doesn't focus on this is Genesis. Genesis is also primarily the story of the biblical patriarchs Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (and Joseph), but it starts with a bunch of other stories - Adam and Eve, Cain and Abel, Noah's flood, the tower of Babel, Sodom and Gomorrah. None of these stories are very important. They're preamble to Genesis, which is itself preamble to the Pentateuch, and yet a lot of evangelicals focus on them exclusively. It's as though they've never read beyond the first few pages of this thousand page book.
So I recently started reading the Bible. I'm currently in Deuteronomy...
is it a good book? i tend to not read
None of these stories are very important
They are very important stories though because they tell how our world came to be the way it is, and often deal directly with struggles with sin.
A favorite of mine is Genesis 34
To be honest, not really
Genesis is kind of interesting, but the rest of the Pentateuch is mostly nonsense. There is some narrative there, but it's constantly interrupted by crap like the exact details of how you should offer sacrifices to god and stuff like that.
Pentateuch is mostly nonsense.
You are reading the whole thing in bad faith.
You must instead read it as if these are the Words of God coming from the Father through his Prophets. If you read it as an athiest as if it is a mechanical way to do stuff it is silly, you will be unable to explain the collapse of the walls of Jericho and other things of such nature
the main character dies and comes back to life
Come on, even Christians don't believe this stuff
Jesus very explicitly says that you don't appease god by sacrifices, so the rules in the old testament are just a waste of space. They're not entertaining to read.
You should have started with the NT. The only way I finally got through it was to read the NT first, then go through the OT under the lens of why we needed Jesus. If you keep up with all the moral and ceremonial laws, they're hard to keep, esp now-a-days. Do you want to want to keep your sin and worship offerings by offering grain and butchering your best livestock because God loves the smell of grain and animal fat?
It also drags on. Just wait until you get into the major prophets like Jeremiah and even the minor prophets like Malachi.
but it starts with a bunch of other stories - Adam and Eve, Cain and Abel, Noah's flood, the tower of Babel, Sodom and Gomorrah. None of these stories are very important.
I find these stories to be important
Adam and Eve explains the nature of male-female relations
To the woman He said:
"I will sharply increase your pain in childbirth;
in pain you will bring forth children.
Your desire will be for your husband,d
and he will rule over you."
To Adam he said
through toil you will eat of it
all the days of your life.
18Both thorns and thistles it will yield for you,
and you will eat the plants of the field.
19By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your bread,
until you return to the ground-
because out of it were you taken.
For dust you are,
and to dust you shall return.
I should clarify: when I say they're not important, I mean they are not important to the greater narrative of the Bible.
Cain and Abel represents the conflict between 2 ways of life. Cain is described in Genesis as "a tiller of the ground" Abel is described as "a keeper of sheep" Abel offers "the best of the flock" and is favored; Cain, who brings "some of the fruit of the ground," is not. The Solitary farmer is not favored like the mobile rancher, and that builds resentment. But it is also telling us that Cain is the founder of cities, as though cities themselves are built off farming and violence
Actually in Revelations you will find that when Christ Returns for the second coming the sacrifices will return during the millennial reign.
You seem like an atheist.
They are important to understanding the world. I can imagine parents reading genesis to explain the nature of reality to their kids for thousands of years
Noah's Flood and the Tower of Babel both offer God pressing the reset button, and the nature of reality changing and starting over. We can understand the Cretaceous-Paleogene extinction event or K-T Extinction as a secular version of the same kind of reset button.
Correct, I am an atheist and still learning about the Bible
But the fact is Christians don't do animal sacrifices anymore so I'm pretty confident that they don't believe this
God pressing the reset button
He should have and not spared a single person.
I mean, sure, but that's kind of irrelevant to my point
You're an Atheist and a Nihilist. How utterly predictable
They believe other parts of the bible. The proof is them prooftexting all the time and taking verses completely out of context. But the grand thing is that it's not something required anymore because Jesus was that sacrifice.
No, I'm actually a Christian. I just have a cynical view like Jonah.
Sounds like you're still in the belly of the beast, like Jonah
How do you guys even bare to read it? Its so cumbersome and hard to follow lot of times. Hundreds of pages of stuff where they word it weird or talk about stuff that is barely relevant or interesting. How is this most popular book in world?
Come on, even Christians don't believe this stuff
KEK
A lot of people feel that it is literal history and the key to their salvation, so they read it even though it is tedious
Its a continually progressive "story" yes, with each generation compounding on the past
Or I can just read between the lines and see the implications of a lot of things in the bible. Like with God's reset button: he just had that much love for his creation. He's like an actual father wanting to guide us, but we keep messing up. He brings forth prophet after prophet after prophet to warn us of what will happen if we do not turn away from our sin. We see the constant consequences, yet we still do it, like worshipping Ba'al and have alters with Asherah poles.
It was extremely tough to get through. I'm not going to deny that at all. It took me a total of three years to read through it all. If you have a hard time with it, it may be better to listen to an audio bible instead. One of the people in my church did that since he couldn't get through reading it at all. I just think the mental challenge of it was really worth it and a trial from God.
The Torah is meant to be a historical document, a compilation of epic parables, an explanation of God's wishes for humanity, and an encyclopedia of Hebrew knowledge all crammed into one. Most communities wouldn't back then wouldn't have access to the whole thing. They'd be lucky to have access to a couple books. This is just how books were written back then. The Epic of Gilgamesh is the same way.
Again, I understand that, but I'm talking about modern evangelicals who have access to the whole Bible. Why do they talk like they've barely read the first book?
Cultural context is also important. Genesis is the first book. It was the first one written and it basically lays the groundwork for the entire Jewish faith. Abrahamic religions will browbeat those stories until the end of humanity for this reason. They might seem like a footnote in a grander story to someone reading it like a novel, but for Abrahamic religions, Genesis is the foundation of everything to come after so of course it's important. The story of Job is important because it explains the story of good and evil. The story of Moses is important because the Jews receive a physical object with instructions from God and not just divinely inspired parables from prophets. Also the founding of the nation of Israel is from Moses' story.
In order to interpret the Bible correctly you need to read it in light of Christ.
More specifically though, you need to read it through the lens of the Magisterium of the holy Catholic Church, which holds to keys of true interpretation.
this that book with the talking snake right?
Because a lot of what you can understand about a religion is not just in the historical book, but the subsequent historical context.
Would you believe the Bible never mentions the Protestant-Catholic divide?
Would you believe the Quran never addresses the Sunni and Shia divide?
I've read through the entire Bible cover to cover two times total. However I read it pretty much every day and have likely read it in its entirety even more than twice just by how often I read sections of it generally. It's really not that hard of a read for me. Then again, I guess I can understand why some people might find it tedious if they've never really read it before. Otherwise it's relatively straight forward to me, especially when forming a systematic theology from it and comparing and contrasting passages, doing exegesis, applying hermenutics, and also reading it in the original language to understand it better (I've studied Koine Greek and can read the Greek NT fairly well though I'm still practicing and not 100% fluent reading wise).
Meant this for
most people are clueless to what jewry is
and for good reason it's a very negative thing so their brains to deal with it's existence basically just don't compute it otherwise they'd go insane and may even end up redpilled on religion, just remember it's jewish propaganda there's another side to reality that the jews don't want you to know
cathocucks at it again
Stop with the heresay. Stop praying to saints so they can pray to God for you. Stop with the indulgences. Quit raping little choir boys. Quit idolizing the pope. Stop bowing down before graven images. Cathocucks are the most heresy of all the branches of Christianity and have continously perverted the word of God.
If you're not reading the Bible as if it were the Word of God and you are having a relationship with the Father when you are reading it then you are going about it wrong.
There is the Law, the Torah which is instructions how to be Good, if you are being Good then you would never need a sacrifice because all sacrifices are sin sacrifices.
There are the Prophets, these are people who were endowed with the Holy Spirit and wrote down what God revealed to them such as that Jesus Christ will be Born and crucified hundreds of years before it happened.
Then we come to the New Testament, which should really be through of as the Renewed Testament. It is where we as followers are called to repentance, to be baptized and born again with the Holy Spirit, and to have the Laws of God written upon our hearts, circumcized in Spirit.
Me Personally, I keep Seventh Day Sabbath, I wear Tassels, I have been trying to keep the law for about a year now, but somedays are hard and some days are easy, but all days I am with the Lord God YHWH and his Son Jesus Christ, and am lead by his Holy Spirit to where I need to be.
If you do not understand that God is the Creator of all things a being outside of existence who created existence.
That the Holy Spirit is the Tool in which He Created all things, it is his Breathe that he breathed out to form All that is.
And that Yahshua Hamashiach Jesus Christ's divine Birth of a Virgin, His Whole Life, and Finally his Death on the Cross was God's divine plan to conquer sin overall by sacrificing his literally Son, he had a Y chromosome spawned out of the Holy Spirit knew God all his days, and was unjustly killed.
We don't make sacrifices anymore, because that is the final atonement there is nothing that you can give or do for the Father he does not want sacrifice, he wants you to Know and Love Him and his Heavenly name and to Love one Another.
I hope this helps, God Bless you.
I hope this time reading the Bible you can open your heart more.
Catholicism is not jewish enough
you don't understand how in the cult game they are the winners
But Christianity isn't a cult, it's the only non-idolatrous religion.
Choosing to be a Catholic is understanding that and choosing to side with the Devil.
whatever you are talking about is literally not a pagan idol and I don't need to be a catholic to understand deep autism for cult games with the church
I don't think you understand what Pagan means in the context of the Bible, or Idol either.
Pagan is anything outside of God, it is forbidden forms of worship, and to believe there is no Idolatry in the church of Mariology shows you're just here to argue not actually learn.
Continue on your way Atheist, someday the Lord may relieve you of that stone heart and give you a heart of Flesh, I am praying for that day. Amen.
Talking donkey also
It's Mary from the bible though not an alter to baal, which I have seen argued by cultists. Atheism is written all over me as well as rebellion too though so thanks for your prayers. Then you pull out a definition you can work with to condemn them for some BULLSHIT. Just to call it goyim religion more for more cult power over it and it's way more powerful and normal. I'm not a cath but the arguments are so petty. nawmean
it's like ok they molest- they worship idols...
yeah without a religious life it's def not the same feel and you probably won't even get through it and what is the point?
It's not petty it's breaking God's Commandments, and if you truly read the Old Testament you would know that God is a Jealous God that regularly destroys, and sends Israel into slavery because of their Idolatry.
Mary was NEVER worshipped in the Bible in fact she says that she needs a Savior too because she is a sinner.
Just because you put a pretty face on your demon altar doesn't make it not a demon altar. The ways in which they worship too are explicitly told not to pray in that manner with vain repetitions. It is like Catholics read the Bible, took out everything God told them Not to do and do it. from raping kids to kissing statues.
Listen man, I'm a christian not a catholic and you're an atheist so Idk what you're even bothering this conversation for.
Are you lonely? I imagine you must be without God.
you have to understand there's the other side of it, so they can just easily say you're saying mary is a demon you see how petty that is, that means you're probably a demon bro. hail mary full of grace
I'm not an atheist I'm basically in a jewish cult that believes in jesus/yahshua, it doesn't like the church at all and is like you but even more extreme towards Christianity. I just have a sixth sense of this stuff at this point, you destroyed europe and so they have statues, the last time they crusaded against those they economically collapsed western rome and then foreigners took over eastern rome with idols was all that was left.
I'm just human you're destroying humanity and hate culture and art and it's all beneath your ego like an abusive parent. You're molesters how dare you judge Catholics and they should get vengeance for decades of trauma that wicked people like you have done making them into villains.
do they literally worship mary? who cares, it's not paganism, it's a jew.
they do literally worship mary cx
Look up rosary prayer, count how many times mary is prayed to and exalted and then count how many times they pray to The Most High
to them jesus is the son of god, the idolatry thing summarizes the religious conflict so well it's over huge things...you're still under a spell from the dark ages, isn't that insane?
look at the rosary then read Mathew 6:7 onwards and you will see that I am telling the Truth.
Follow Christ Jesus.
I am not saying Mary is beneath me or anything of course not she is a saint just like the rest of us, but she is not Yahshua. She is not YHWH. She is not the Holy Spirit. praying to her is stealing from the Father simple as, Many catholics love Mary more than God, it's Idolatry.
Anyone saying that I am saying Mary is a demon, is bearing false witness. I said they had a demon temple that they slapped mary's face on so that they could force everyone to get drunk of the fornications of the the Whore of Babylon.
Creating Mary's face btw is Idolatry in it's own right and forbidden in the 10 commandments, which the Catholics altered to justify their idolatry.
have to agree with anon here
there are cool stuff here and there then suddenly here and the exact measures for this building and what materials to use
I find it kinda funny when athiests mock the bible as fictional WHEN MOST OF IT ISNT EVEN NARRITIVE BUT SOME CRAP ABOUT HOW TO BAKE A CAKE
that actually comes in at some point, not joking
I just do not want to be following the Anti-Christ, and the World Religions are preparing the whole world for the anti-christ.
Catholicism is the Largest branch of "Christianity" in the United States is the country getting more moral? Or are we going to shit because everyone is drunk of the wine of fornication.
also to add on, I remember the book of Joshua the most and yes while some of it is fantastical, most of it is just dry politics
and then David sent in the army to slaughter women and children of some heathen tribe
like criticize the bible, but not for maybe being fictional, but for the fact they brag about genocide
You are correct. There is a broader story and nobody reads past a certain point. The original stories hold significance, the Tower of Babel ( literal definition 'Confusion'.) is what I am most familiar with holding significance to the broader story, but most people don't get that deep and so much interpretation becomes dogmatic. Christians themselves tend to hyperfixate on the Gospels themselves out of fear of their own version of wrongthink and end up missing context from the Old Testament, or they tend to lack the intellectual toolbelt to understand have higher thoughts and perspectives. Something I am learning going through the Bible on my own and knowing a Catholic studying the same thing is, Catholics will read the say Septuagint or Hebrew Bible and say "Well this BASICALLY affirms Catholic dogma" regardless of how vague or general the statement is. There is one Protestant talking point about Revelation 17 pertaining to the blasphemy of the Catholic church and its false dogma, which I at first thought was a stretch, but seeing their behavior upclose, kinda hard not to interpret it that way.
happy dinosaur day
For David to marry Saul's Daughter he had to go cut off like 5000 foreskins cx
None of these stories are very important
I mean they are not important to the greater narrative
That is simply false. The whole Bible is centred around Christ. Those stories show the development of sin in the world and why we need him to correct it. Besides being his ancestors, the patriarchs also typically prophsey of him. He even appears personally to Abraham in the story of Sodom and Gomorrha.
evangelicals focus on them exclusively
Simply not true. The only real reason there is much focus on it is that it is attacked by atheists and half-hearted Christians as false history or myth, rather than what it is in truth, an accurate account of the earliest history of the world.
I reached any age at all that's what happened, the catholic church is the great whore now to keep it fresh otherwise it's not real. They read a form of the same bible and do the same fucking thing.
It devolved into a bunch of jews calling eachother pagans because they want...power it's all political. You insult "my intelligence" catholic. Any fool can see it's a jewish power game. That's fine those are like protestant established religions you'll never get out of...then they get the tithes and offerings that goes to the real church. It's deep religious madness that naive people fell into.
so the church that destroyed europe jewry is babylon now, can anyone confirm this? or is it cult dogma? they are in the same religion and they laugh like the cult impressed them to do, likea little hail mary we're not that dumb thing, for some reason to them that's based but having statues of mary isn't. No I agree they didn't have the faculties to fight back against the molesters now they're spewing one religious dogma or another.
There is also this thing where a bunch of the churches are lead by freemasons and atheists who just go to church because they want political power. Then we got gay churches and stuff 45,000+ different DEMON-nations all going their own way instead of following YAH's WAY
No offense, but you are so illiterate that I can't tell if you are identifying yourself or me as a Catholic. I am not a Catholic.
Protestant Catholic two daughters of the same WHORE GET OUT OF HER
And obey the Lord your God!
That's fine, you hate Catholics for no good reason and you make it out to be some noble thing but it's scummy like your internet habits.
and you gotta go wow, that's like the teachings of man to the dogmatic cultist about catholics and whatever else that isn't their little group, oh and you think I'm a pile of shit too well hallelujah it's from child abuse.
This thread just proves that it's impossible to discuss the Bible as a work of literature because a bunch of retards will swoop in to insist that it is a historical piece and the literal word of God
That's how deep the jew's game is.
It has nothing to do with hating Catholics "for no good reason", Catholics are simply a talking point because they are apart of one of the biggest churches in the world and I consider their behavior so toxic that it's easy to generalize. I mean look at what you're doing, you are making accusations, typical of Catholics. You attributing these words as good or bad is meaningless to me, it's just a fact that Catholics are overbearing and dogmatic, even outside of scripture. Disgusting behavior.
The Bible is the Word of God.
"But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Nigger, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire."
You call me a Fool because I believe, I pray for you because you are without our Glorious Father.
I took a break from religion for many years and went back and I realize why I left, because to "true believers' everything is liberal. It's like they just make life hell for jews to rule the planet. Now I understand Hitler. (woah)
Can you explain what you mean by "everything is liberal"?
Judaism is liberal and that's the problem, Catholics are liberal and that's the problem. Just to make life hell because you believe at all. It just screams being a sucker. Do you get paid to be a retard?
Your chart puts mary are the mother goddess and part of the Holy Trinity.
Yuck yuck abominable.
Get out of here with your Demons stinky Freemason cuckhold.
Freemason illumination is nothing but darkness Egyptian slavery and gay shit
my favorite part is when god randomly tries to kill moses, which is thwarted by Moses' wife circumcising their son and rubbing the foreskin on Moses' feet. This is never brought up again.
how brainwashed are you?
anyway I may as well not care there's no dignity in being a jew really the whole system is bad from the beginning the egyptians had ten commandments and a holy of holies jewry itself is just stolen from pagans with mind powers probably. Nobody will give you real solutions in christianity they will knowingly know that's satan and reinforce dogma, christians attacked people I knew physically for being redpilled. So in the battle for middle earth it's never said and done, whether paganism should rule or atheism or catholics we've yet to see your messiah return. Obviously someone will claim to be Jesus one day or another believe it or not, just to sow some doubt in you, so you know what that's like bible person.
how brainwashed are you?
Man literally posting Freemason pictures.
The old testament is irrelevant to Christianity as a whole, it's just a prelude to christ saying "lol now forget all you've read".
Right now it's jewish tyranny era and they bet it would last forever and so did you before they got shoveled into an oven in the current year for Odin.
Obviously you're going to be sucking the Anti-Christ's dick because you love idolatry and you're doing it right now when you're sharing your Demonic Possession tools. GET OUT OF HERE GET OUT OF HIM SATAN GET OUT GET OUT>< IF you do not repent you will DIE you are being fed lies and convinced everyone who is not in on your lies is brainwashed because your lodge friends think it's real so it must be real, meanwhile you're all on a highway to death.
No different than the Homosexual. A Faggot.
Why would I help jews? deep arrogance aside?
and homosexuality is a sin very deep argument that means I don't go to heaven where you worship yahweh all day forever
Those who rule do not worship God they worship Money, denominated in USD $1 note of which conveniently has this nigger's Free Mason pyramid on it. Abominable Abominable Abominable.
The OT laws still apply.
Matthew 5:18
For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
Stop getting in the way of thinking you jew.
Brainlet take on Heaven and the Millennial reign and what is to come after that.
Those who sin and do not repent are not going to get to heaven in any respects. You must put sin away and REPENT.
"thinking" as in spreading your free mason "illumination" no thanks muhammed. Enjoy your 1 world religion I'm sure it will be a long and pleasurable life Yah willing.
I was illustrating this is the jewish world order that's all you serve how dare you try and call people wicked. There should be justice against you jews for your arrogance. The egyptians were holy people how dare you slander them.
Your cherubs are cheap imitations of anything egypt could come up with.
The Pentateuch is so weird because it's literally multiple texts stitched together. For example Genesis has two mutually exclusive accounts of creation written centuries apart back-to-back. Google the documentary hypothesis.
it wasn't catholics and christians worshipping baal it was god/yahweh, clearly being something they thought was more than it was. your religion is a cult that stones people to death that's all you are the most bluepilled and you're ruled by what you call Egyptians like jews calling eachother pagans relishing destroying humanity it's so gross. then they call them wicked and perverse, you're just sucking their holy blood!
You called the Jewish World Order as put in place by the Freemasons and so forth the "True Believers"
When they do not follow Yahshua. They are abominable idolators who lust after their own appetites, and have corrupted the world to it's very core, doing the work of the Devil.
If you worship that stuff you are wicked. It is not part of the True Religion of Elohim Adonai Abba Yah. Which has nothing to do with all this gay Egyptian slavery, it has to do with the LAW. and the Words of God. Those "True Believers" Do not follow the Law and the Words of God, except for the Jew who 95% of the time is rejecting Yahshua.
what is Christian culture? anyway the liberals will outsource you to niggers and you can just be correct all day
are the cherubs on the ark of the covenant pagan idols? well the bow and worship them. this is how dumb the argument is about mary to me, it's like wow, they are worshipping an idol. But that's jewish religion, oops they worshipped the idol. So I'm torn between being an atheist, a pagan or a jew, and religious people are just bullies about it, they will just call you names.
what is Christian culture?
Christian Culture is obey the law found in the new testament because it is how to be Righteous. Yet not doing this because it is what gives you salvation, but doing it out of the Love in your Heart because you belong to the Lord God in your very being.
It is getting married and staying married, divorce is not permitted for any reason and you are bound together for eternity as everyone will suffer a first death, but then there will be a judgement and anyone who believes in Yahshua, Christ Jesus, will be spared from the Second death and live forever. I want a wife that will be with me there. How about you?
Are you a Catholic, An Atheist, A Free Mason?
The Ark of the Covenant is a very specific thing that is lost to us today, and all of them that exist are recreations so anyone bowing down to them is committing Idolatry and should repent yes. It is foolishness in the church to do that sort of thing.
A pagan is anyone who is not inside the Christian Culture.
You are either part of the Body of Jesus Christ.
Or you are a pagan. that is kind of what it means, it's not really a stand alone religion.
Did you ever read the Renewed Covenant? There is this book Aramaic English New Testament by Netzari Press. If you are coming from a Jewish Background it would probably serve you even better than it did myself.
I was raised Episcopalian and they are basically evil they have women pastors and celebrate divorce, adultery, and "free love" because they are abusing Paul's Grace. But now I just follow Yahshua
they have no culture so culture is pagan to them and so they persecute eachother for being human at all it's fun to be a troll I guess but there is no reason to do it unless you're totally deluded, but they wouldn't do that if they couldn't parasitize others about it.
So anti culture being, every persons enemy on the planet the 99% go read the bible and let your vain ego go. You have nothing you did it to call Catholics pagan and you're ridiculous and we will overcome you freaks.
What is your jewish name?
they're envious of the wicked with it's big church and they want to burn it down and call it gay they are the lowest scum
I bet everyone ITT have Asherah poles everywhere.
They have lots of culture, everything that exists is from Our Father, the Creator God who made all things. Abba Yah. Hallowed be His Name.
All of Jewish Culture is part of it, and all of Christian culture is part of it. The Virgin Birth, the Rape of Dinah, Passover, The Feast of Unleavened Bread, Annointing with Oil, Washing Feet, wearing tassels. All of that Old testament is the culture it's telling you how to live it is the Instructions in Righteousness, how to live a Righteous life. and as Psalms 1 says, blessed is he who delights in the law of the Lord, and meditates on his law day and night.
I only came to the Truth about The Asherah Poles last year and turned away from Easter to Passover. And Put away Ham, only in the last year. I am still a baby in the Way of the Lord, but I pray that the Lord will Keep me and Remember me.
I pray that He will shine His Light on me and be gracious to me.
I pray that He will turn to me and give me Peace.
For the Lord knows I need it.
Amen
you can be a jew I'll take the idolatry at least it's anything and not nothing
These are the kinds of threads I want on r9k, not more tranny slop.
the very first religions ever (think cavemen)
are mother goddess cults
and ancient civilizations (like sumerians & greeks) have pointed to this
the gnostics who believe in jesus christ were killed by the very same "christians"
and were genocided
abrahamists can't help themselves but kill in the name of jesus
I was debating wheter I should post that with the other wikis awhile ago
also i ?think? it's called "Asherim"?
No that's shrek
You can stay in the world, Many are called but few are chosen.
For those who are called
I extend my prayer to you, to read the Bible Earnestly accepting the Father into your Heart. Knowing that he exists and opening yourself to the Love of Christ Jesus to see the amazing world He has prepared for you.
the very first religions ever (think cavemen)
WRONG
because God Created the First Religions (Think Adam)
And everyone came from him, and then there was a flood and only NOAH and his boys survived.
We all stem from them, Cavemen evolutionary theory go back to science class gay boy. The Worship of Yah was the first religion because He created all things and Adam worshipped him after the Fall.
Asherim
I don't know the name, just that I know Asherah poles are mentioned very often in the Old Testament and God ordered the Israelites often to tear them down instead of worshiping them like they were.
The sea people on the coast near Israel were putting up Christmas Trees and decorating them with Gold and Silver.
And the Israelites were doing it too because haha so fun, so God beat them down for idolatry.
they were having mass orgies and doing mushrooms/drugs
well i guess emptiness is form
And yet they still didn't learn their lesson. On something similar, I find it funny how Christians celebrate many holidays that have pagan origins.
If you really want to prove your commitment to God and immediately be hated for everyone for obey the Most High take a Nazarite Vow in Numbers 6!
I did 9 months ago and I only had a few mental break downs instead of mental break downs everyday!
You are to not Cut your Hair, or your beard.
You are not to drink alcohol, and no produce of the Vine.
And you are not to touch the dead in anyway.
well it's just that i don't give a fuck about the jews. I only care about jesus. But the beginning of genesis is fun because the creation of the world is more relevant to me than jew shit, even if if it's not that relevant all things considered
Asherah is the "wife" of "YHWH"
she is a mother goddess
I certainly don't think all of this is correct but it's interesting from a devil's advocate point of view for you
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Yeah the pagans were doing shit like that, just like the pagans do shit like that today and it's abominable. It's actually the same child sacrificing demon cultists running shit now as it was then, they even repainted it as "Abortion" and got millions to join in on their death cultism, but it's okay because God will destroy them all in the end. We as Christians are hopeful for the resurrections to come where those idolaters will be cast into the fire.
I pray they repent swiftly!
And you are not to touch the dead in anyway.
Sometimes unable to. Numbers 19:11 says you are unclean for 7 days.
Not in the scripture, made up nonsense
It is true that asherah worship is all of those evil things, of abortion, and transgenders, and muh spirit to nature connection, and social justice and all this same stuff that the Groves worship to this day.
It is not related to Yah though, it is NOT part of the culture of Yahsrael at all it is PAGAN outside of Yah's Way.
Well if you read in Numbers 6 during a nazarite vow, if you touch a dead body you will have to make a sin offering and then cut off your hair and start again.
trying this hard to not have your safe space broken
it's ok biblecuck, you'll grow out of it one day
You know Jesus says stuff in the Nag Hammadi?
So you'll just straight up disregard jesus and only listen to random people who put together a KJV for you?
the absolute state of biblecucks
I know it's very sad. And what they remember is the Christmas Tree and the lights, they are distracted from the light of the angel atop the tree and then claim "It's Jesus's Birthday" meanwhile it's nowhere near that date, and the whole nativity scene is unbiblical.
You have to remember that Satan is an Egomaniac and He wants to be the Center of Attention.
I am not interested in your Gnostic Heresies, I am following the way of Yah, and of my Brother Master Lord Teacher and Salvation, Yahshua.
I am not KJV only I recommended the other fellow an Aramaic English New Testament.
I use an app called E-sword. It is free, and it allows you to get a ton of free different translations, some versions with Strong's numbers built right in. There is Apocrypha and commentaries, dictionaries, and maps right in the app for free! Highly Recommend as a Bible Learning Tool.
only listen to random people who put together a KJV for you?
KJV is heresy. It was commissioned by King James as a way to further his power, not to have an accurate english translation and bring the bible to the masses.
satan is a group of people "man's adversary" not singular
if the opposite of north is south
is the opposite of man woman?
if a magnetic north and south are "in opposition of each other" aka an adversary
then would women be man's adversary?
that would make feminine satanic
and that goes in line with mother goddess stuff
of course this is just theory :^)
You know the original Bible was written in Greek right?
exactly, thank you
I know that Satan is more like a Spirit than a Person.
This is E-sword and how it looks and Prayer of Manassas in the Brentons English Septuagint that is free to download! Along with the KJV, the ERV, the ESV, the LITV, the GNB, the Websters, all for free! I recommend having at least 3 open when you're studying, 1 Hebraic roots at least.
Wasn't the original Bible written in Aramaic or Hebrew or something?
I use the Hebraic Roots Bible with Study Notes, Congregation of YHWH Jerusalem 4th edition
holy shit do you watch Jonathan Kleck?
they're not using Temple OS to further their understanding of God in the Third Temple
NIV translation only for me!
Great question and very complex issue!
First there Is the Torah it is made up of the first 5 books and the Prophets. It makes up the "Old Testament" Back in the time of Jesus there was versions of this in Greek and in Hebrew, with the original language being Lost, and the Local language being Aramaic!
Both the Greek and the Hebrew versions have intricacies and details that don't contradict, but add to one another! Much like the synoptic gospels.
Never heard of them sorry, Do you watch Jonathan Kleck?
This is a page from the Hebraic Roots Bible
I have genuinely no idea as the more I look into Ancient Histories and Biblical Archaeology, the answer is always "Yes, but no". If I had 200+ IQ and could easily and effortlessly pickup languages then I would be able to give you a more clear and concise answer. The oldest language as far as I know within a historical context is Cuneiform. There are so many other Semetic languages that were used during older periods that to even say Hebrew was the original language would be a lie. You have languages such as Canaan languages exist, the Aramaic languages exist, Phoenician languages, etc. You could go on and on and on with this shit forever. There is no short answer that will be satisfying to someone who aspires for the truth. You would need hundreds of dedicated linguists and archaeologists and even that won't satisfy me personally as there have been many liars trying to make a name for themself.
According to the Tower of Babel everyone uses a single language before God created language to confuse us and make it hard to talk.
Unfortunately All archaeology research over the last 25 years has been stalled out and no one is allowed to dig or learn anything new because of who runs the world. (SATAN)
learn Phoenician or Akkadian
like latin, you can use it to understand other similar neighboring languages
Nice, why don't you do it anyways? There was an old man from modern Iran who went into countries illegally so he could learn Cuneiform and translate tablets, why do you give up and say all this for literally no fucking reason what so ever?
I've little interested with the Dead, I prefer hanging out with the Living God
Okay that's neat! Have fun with yourself! Byyyeeeee!!!!
Just to be clear, cuneiform isn't a language. It's a writing system for Babylonian languages like Akkadian.
It's too hard to learn a new language to read when you already know deeply so much language and the translations exist for the different branches you just have to do a bit of history on them and the authors and so on and know where you're at.
Okay that makes sense. I haven't actually touched Cuneiform, but of the translated tablets I know about, they always allude to Babylon. Yknow if this many incels/robots are interested in ancient histories and biblical archaeology, we should create a general or something here. I've been personally studying Hebrew and want to learn Aramaic after.
Maybe, Good luck on your studies. May you grow closer to Our Father.
I am off to sleep