IQ has a strong correlation with one's income level, education, and profession. Even turboautists, who never received an education, tend to score higher on these tests. Yet, either fueled by intense copium or desire to stay humble, there are some who deny these results.
"But muh social intelligence"
IQ is measuring your brain's logical ability. How well one deals with people is irrelevant.
Success is random.
Because iq tests have ideological implications people don't like.
Yeah, like for example you could look at iq and say that a somalian is half the person someone with 135 iq is
i scored 132 on a professionally administered iq test and i'm definitely not smart
Even turboautists, who never received an education, tend to score higher on these tests
That's actually wrong
I have a high IQ and I'm still fucking retarded. Being able to solve puzzles and crunch numbers fast doesn't make you a smart person.
Even turboautists, who never received an education,
Autists score quite low on iq tests, social intelligence and intellectual abilities are related too tho with a weak coefficient
The main issue is that analytical intelligence doesn't equate to higher: wisdom, pragmatism("street smarts"), creativity, EQ(ability to read subtextual context), motivation or energy.
Let's take motivation; an 80IQ retard can end up more successful then a 180iq rain man with determination alone(think of a rapper). This is why intellectuals hate entrepreneurs (most entrepreneurs are normie dude-bros at best but end up much more successful then most intellectuals).
Also there is a miss understand of IQ. People think that a 180iq genius thinks in ways normal people can't understand, that's wrong. It's more like: a 180iq person can learn something 5 times faster than a 90iq person BUT the 90iq person can in fact do what the 180iq person is doing given enough time. (Although below 80iq and it does get to where they can't understand things).
I have a high IQ and I'm still fucking retarded. Being able to solve puzzles and crunch numbers fast doesn't make you a smart person.
Then what do you define intelligence as? You are either humble bragging or you are corrupted by liberal thought. Any form of intelligence other than logical, spatial, or verbal is cope. Being a nigger good at basketball does not improve ones capacity to learn but their "kinesthetic intelligence"
Making good life decisions and using the intelligence in a productive way which I don't. What's the point in having a high IQ if the average person live more successful lives?
Intelligence does not 100% correlate with success. Obviously there are other factors contributing to it. But you still have a higher capacity to learn and think than the average person. If you were born of average intelligence, it is likely you'd have an even worser outcome.
I scored 128 in one such test as well and I'm definitely smart. Not bragging about it but I seem to have needed far less effort than others to get to where I'm at. I have a master's degree and work in STEM. I've been called smart by 8 people so far, ranging from fellow students to university teachers. I also think my strong individualism is a result of high IQ. I just don't care to follow others out of societal pressure and as a result I'm doing incredibly well financially and am on track to retire in my 40s.
Still ended up being a wizard but it's almost entirely my fault as I have never put any effort into getting a gf. I just don't like the vast majority of women and don't want to live with them. I have a very high sex drive but I prefer masturbation to tolerating a woman just to get to have sex.
I think you're just being humble. When you're smart, you realize there's a lot of stuff you don't know about many things and you lack experience in doing many things too. I also acknowledge that. I just consider myself smart because I've proven to myself many times that I am. I almost always manage to achieve what I desire and usually with not much effort.
Well because then the poor niggerinos aren't just a victim of white supremos OP.
Because it makes people feel bad
Not because it's wrong or flawed or anything
because black people do poorly at them
I dunno OP, study Epistemology if you care so much. I think one thing overlooked by niggercattle that Epistemology touches down on is the limits to knowledge.
strong correlation with income
Not as strong as you might think. Most people, regardless of iq arent making much
Forgot to include the graph sorry
Another one displaying this. Its not the guarantee you think
Also being high IQ doesn't even make you immune to propaganda. My father is a boomer who tested 148 and he laps up whatever the tv tells him. Part of this is growing up in a high trust society I guess.
Not a lot of people know this, but Im actually the only person immune to propaganda!
entrepreneurs are normie dude-bros at best but end up much more successful then most intellectuals
This is true, I work the trades, and if I choose to start my own bussiness I could be making around 200k/yr, and all I have to do is show up and swing a hammer, if it wasn't for all the other bullshit that comes with running a small business I'd do it, but I hate people so I'd rather be a poor fag and enjoy my free time.
It's interesting how the variance increases the higher the iq is
Or it's just because they didn't have many data points for those idk
High earners are still outliers
There's no way to discern a truly intelligent person vs a scarily good test-taker via an intelligence test. Ironically, the same skills and innate traits that result in good test-taking (attentiveness, memory & retention, etc) ALSO contribute to one's general success in life.
For similar reasons, exceptionally dumb people can excel in academic settings. Highly intelligent but dysfunctional people can also fail miserably.
Intelligent people are good at not just retention but conjecture, and most IQ tests are quite bad at examining this. This doesn't necessarily mean IQ is a useless metric but it's not an entirely perfect and flawless one.
Why are IQ tests deemed a poor measure of intelligence?
Because this
IQ has a strong correlation with one's income level, education, and profession.
is false.
The graph you provided shows median income rising with IQ. Of course, other factors contribute more heavily. But high intelligence obviously helps here, even if a little.
I would like to see a similar graph but solely consisting of boomers. That way, we can gauge more at life outcomes. Wealth is heavily determined by age as well.
Why are IQ tests deemed a poor measure of intelligence?
They are not. Literally not a single IQ researcher believes this.
Your libtard gender studies professor does believe it, but then again they're not very intelligent.
Kek. This is false and uneducated.
lmao this is how low IQ mongs pretend that they're akshually smart: if you just ignore the data it simply doesn't exist xD
They are the most accurate measure we have but they are far from perfect.
Intelligence does not 100% correlate with success
In other words, IQ is only relevant if you are not a literal retard. You just proved his point
Why do libtards hate the thought of some people being naturally more intelligent or having more cognitive ability? But they cry about some having naturally more athletic capabilities than others?
The correlation is extremely high between high IQ and broad measures of success. On literally any other topic you would never try to hedge about something with a .9 correlation.
why are you even bringing it up lol
Why do libtards hate the thought of some people being naturally more intelligent or having more cognitive ability?
Because that would quite literally undermine the entirety of the last 60 years of the liberal project, which is based upon the idea of a "blank slate"
The correlation is extremely high between high IQ and broad measures of success
Then explain these
what is there to explain? look at the bottom left, where the lowest IQs are: it is massively full of dots far denser than any other area.
the low IQs are making a pittance.
The correlation weakens when you exclude the literal retards. There's diminishing returns for intelligence, and it's been proven in studies that the smartest people aren't the highest earners, business leaders are typically around 115-125 and not the 140IQ geniuses.
Intelligence is like height, being 7'3 often leads to serious health problems, having a 150+IQ often comes packaged with problems. If it was a binary thing where smart == better, then natural selection would have us as all being giga-geniuses.
The correlation weakens when you exclude the literal retards
and why would you do that?
it is massively full of dots far denser than any other area
That's an exaggeration and you know it. 70s range is borderline retarded lmao. Midrange and up has much less variation
That's an exaggeration and you know it
are you blind or something? seriously?
I would expect a FAR steeper linear correlation if iq mattered that much. Obviously, it plays a role, but only a minor role.
Read IQ tests
Read what is intelligence
Realize how much of a dumbass you are
???
Profit!
Because IQ has diminishing returns and it's retardation that typically put people in the "its over" category. Things like personality traits and physical health become much more important as a deciding factor of status and wealth. Intelligence becomes less relevant the more of it you have.
A 110 IQ guy with good impulse control will likely do -much- better in life than a 130IQ guy with poor impulse control. But a 80IQ guy with poor impulse control will likely do better than a 80IQ guy with good impulse control.
It clearly matters a ton and you're denying it does for some weird reason? You're denying the evidence of your own eyes, very strange.
The other poster intentionally blanked out the bottom of the graph because low IQ and low pay are insanely highly correlated!! and you're pretending it's just not there! insanity
Than a 60IQ guy with good impulse control*
You are correct but the retarded OP doesn't understand that the most common IQ tests are simply math + some pattern recognition, there's hardly any logic and problem solving in them, generally these kind of measurements line up fairly well with STEM degrees since they cover a lot of math which in turn usually land good paying jobs, it's easily possible to train a complete retard to score extremely high in these tests if one wanted to do so.
It's literally the same chart lmao. For the last time: yes, iq matters, but it doesn't make a "massive" difference. Go be a pedant somewhere else
doesn't understand that the most common IQ tests are simply math
This is blatantly not true. The most g-loaded section of the SAT was the verbal reasoning section, which they removed because it was just an IQ test in essence.
Because IQ has diminishing returns
That literally doesn't matter, even if it were true. You're "removing the retards" when they're the most important group here: we have set up society in the last 30 some years to cater to the retards with many obvious downsides.
Because there is a lower criteria for success as a business leader and a lower amount of high IQ people. Obviously, the average is going to be around that criteria because there are more people around 115-125.
If you looked at the IQs of professions with a higher criteria for success, such as surgeons or scientists, then you'll see the variation.
Yeah a lot IQ tests have shit like incremental prime number increases as part of the pattern. So by virtue of studying mathematics, the mathematician has a step up. You're not likely able to intuit prime number increases if you've never come across the concept of a prime number before.
Computer programmers at the top end literally rote memorize the solutions to difficult problems, which again, come up during those sorts of IQ tests. Philosophy majors score around the same because they deal with logic as part of their degree.
You can't train a retard to become good at IQ tests, but anyone normal can increase their IQ by 5-10 points pretty easily by studying how to do IQ tests. What sort of questions they ask, what patterns to look out for, etc. A lot of insecure athletes and celebrities do this to become part of MENSA.
but anyone normal can increase their IQ by 5-10 points pretty easily by studying how to do IQ tests.
do you have any data on that? I have not seen it, and honestly don't believe it.
Sub-70IQ retards don't really cost society too much. They don't commit crimes like the 80-90IQ cohort does and they're typically the victims of violence, not the instigators. Sure, they're a drain on welfare, but it's typically people significantly smarter than them that clog up the prison system and commit the welfare fraud.
You have to separate the congenital retards (have a physical disorder that causes their retardation) out from the non-congential retards too. Down Syndrome kids just get a dolloping of NEETbux, often doing small tasks like helping at the fish and chip shop. For white and asian populations, most congenital retards die off pretty young too, like around 40, and almost never sire children.
Non-congenital retards cause a bit more crime, are a bit more violent, sometimes have more kids, but not really as much as people a bit smarter than them in all of those ways. Blacks have more non-congenital retards relative to congenital retards. And here again, they're mostly victimized in their community.
Anti-social criminals typically aren't the stupidest people in a given society.
Sub-70IQ retards don't really cost society too much
They do because they literally can not do a single thing competently. NOT EVEN THE MILITARY WANTS THEM.
They are also a tiny percentage of the population. Why are you stressing about this? I dont get it, its like when people lose their minds over trans rights but theyre like 1% of the population. Please take a breath
I knew one who had a farm job. An adult IQ around 70 puts you at about the intelligence level of a 10 year old, and plenty of 10 year olds can do basic tasks.
NOT EVEN THE MILITARY WANTS THEM.
Fun fact: they started sending retards mostly negroes to Vietnam, when normally they would not have qualified due to low IQ.
Results were predictably zany
It's easier for a person to pat himself on the back about being "smart" than it is for him to actually go out and achieve anything. It'd be like a bunch of tall people bragging about being good at basketball because they're tall and all the other NBA players are tall, but never going out to learn how to play.
You see people who cope with their racial identity do something similar. It's the way for losers who have achieved nothing to hijack the achievements of other people.
I actually prefer how Asian countries do it. You're not expected to be just a wunderkinder by virtue of being born smart, you're expected to study and prove yourself.
pedophiles are a tiny portion of the population
Why does it matter
please take a breath
Sub-70IQ retards don't really cost society too much.
you keep doing this blatant cherry picking: moving the goalposts and pretending like nobody is going to notice.
Your "reasoning" and argumentation is clearly biased. You should start from first principles and try to work through this question without your insanely transparent bias infecting what you say.