If men weren't so entitled they wouldn't be so miserable

I've seen prettier women doing manual labor. Maybe what you two find attractive is not the same as what other people find attractive, have you not considered the opinion's of other people?

The philosophical concept of gaze is an inherently poor concept by design, because it moves under the assumption that part of your identity hegemonically influences your very being in a way that is quantifiable en masse & that this is a more defining experience than any other identity marker.
Using that logic you should apply the same to autism, sexuality, ethnicity, country of origin, social status, wealth, popularity, beauty, intellect and mood, but you don't, because nuance doesn't sell and dividing your experiences into micro, ultra-specific scenarios is pointless, as your identity is shaped by all of this and more.

some retard on twitter called margot robie mid therefore that is the opinion of the majority of men

I mran youre an obvious troll but come the fuck on faggot

Wtf who said that?

Moids.
Not that easy.

I'm not. Are you hearing or seeing things that are not there, anon

Plenty of men are though. Like if I say that I only like tall guys men will crucify me.

hey OP, i'm a bait posting consultant. do you need help? your last threads have been boring :(

That's literally the human condition, men have desires. We want to mate.

Dating stats bro we know males rate females on a standard deviation while females think 80% of males are ugly.

Misandrist whore.

I can't say that I blame men though

Proceeds to blame men.

If it makes you feel any better they'll die alone and be eaten by cats and that makes me happier than a clam

sorry but im not and never will be gay tranny faggot

most men grew up on Hollywood rom coms where it's pretty much expected to see fat men with hot thin bimbos

This was mostly a thing in the 1990s? Eh. I'm not seeing it anymore.

I think that what you refer to as entitlements usually stems from what women themselves have told men.

just be a cog in the system, be fine with 0 sex 0 attention, just work for us and die for us in war so we can have fun in society

That's literally the human condition, men have desires.

Of course men have desires, I never claimed that they didn't, but there is a difference between having desires and being entitled.

we know males rate females on a standard deviation while females think 80% of males are ugly.

I hate this study because it is never talked about in it's full context. Women were more likely to message the men that they rated as below average. You also have to take into consideration that men are not good at taking selfies.

YOU ARE A MISANDRIST WHORE BECAUSE YOU SAID ONE NEGATIVE THING ABOUT MEN

And men call women emotional LMFAO.
I have a boyfriend though so I'm not alone but you are though lol

This was mostly a thing in the 1990s?

I'm still seeing it though. Just look at young Sheldon. By the way I'm not saying that the dynamic is wrong or anything but it tends to espouse a lot of entitlement in males.

I think that what you refer to as entitlements usually stems from what women themselves have told men.

Like what? You mean when we tell you that we like kind men? Ofc we don't mean unattractive kind men.
If you listened to women instead of red pilled males you wouldn't be so lonely. That's my point pretty much.

Not that easy.

Just keep grinding and ull probably get there some day or close enough
And then you can date a cool incel like me as a reward

If you listened to women instead of red pilled males you wouldn't be so lonely. That's my point pretty much.

i dont listen to redpilled males, i listen to blackpilled males
and youre sentence doesnt even make sense
first you said "if men stopped thinking theyre entitled to sex they wouldnt be miserable" implying you want them to be content with having no sex, and to instead be lonely forever aslong as they contribute to the world and the system, like happy little slaves that learn to stop feeling emotion.
now youre saying you DONT want them to be so lonely? make up your mind
and you keep blaming this on men, as if its their fault, your rotted brain could never even accept the idea that women could be at any fault for anything in society, there are forever blameless and innocent to you, like most normies and feminists.

now look up "women are wonderful effect" and "just world fallacy", were not "lonely" because were "hateful", in fact when you go on a dating app you cannot tell who is "hateful" or not, you get no matches because youre judged by looks only, i dont have a conversation with someone before swiping left or right, no one does.

have you not considered the opinion's of other people?

why the fuck would i do that, especially for people i don't respect anyway?

Like what? You mean when we tell you that we like kind men? Ofc we don't mean unattractive kind men.

There it is. That's what we wanted to hear. Go on. Tell us how much you hate unattractive men.

Of course men have desires, I never claimed that they didn't, but there is a difference between having desires and being entitled.

Imagine finger wagging males for being pissy about not being able to even meet their base physiological needs.

Women were more likely to message the men that they rated as below average.

Higher rated males got a disproportionate amount of messages and had higher success overall

You also have to take into consideration that men are not good at taking selfies.

Weak cope. You can find this in most traits looked at. Height, penis size, facial attractiveness, etc... females always want top 80%

Just keep grinding and ull probably get there some day or close enough

I don't really need to though.

And then you can date a cool incel like me as a reward

No thanks.

i dont listen to redpilled males, i listen to blackpilled males

Ok. Misogyny is Misogyny though.

and youre sentence doesnt even make sense first you said "if men stopped thinking theyre entitled to sex they wouldnt be miserable" implying you want them to be content with having no sex,

More like implying that they should stop thinking that women owe them sex. I think that men should learn to be fine with that.

you want them to be content with having no sex, and to instead be lonely forever aslong as they contribute to the world and the system, like happy little slaves that learn to stop feeling emotion.

When did I say that? I would very much prefer it if men could just desenter women all together and focus on themselves.

your rotted brain could never even accept the idea that women could be at any fault for anything

But it really isn't our fault that men are lonely lmfao. We've been trying to tell them what to do but you won't listen.

Go on. Tell us how much you hate unattractive men.

Men are so dramatic. Do I hate unattractive men now because I'm not attracted to them?

Imagine finger wagging males for being pissy about not being able to even meet their base physiological needs.

I made a distinction between desires and entitlements. I understand that love is a psychological need but there is a difference between that and an entitlement.

Higher rated males got a disproportionate amount of messages and had higher success overall

Because they are hot LMFAO. As if males don't disproportionately message stacy.

females always want top 80%

The top 20% is very individual though. For example I'm not so picky about height but prefer a cute face.

They're trying chud get off their code

the problem is the opposite. we have detached from each other completely and only really pull on our common string when our biology tells us we're horny / want something. marriage does not exist anymore. love does not exist anymore. commitment does not exist anymore. and speak on any grievances you have with a partner or really most women, and you will leave the conversation feeling like it was all in your head, as they live out your logic in secret. there's genuinely no point in trying if women aren't the ones pursuing you. love is a rich, attractive, upper-class hobby at this point. give me a pill that kills my desire to be loved and wanted and my life instantly becomes exponentially better

Ok. Misogyny is Misogyny though.

its not misogyny to realize that only looks matters in society by studying what peoples experiences are
its misogynistic to say that ive been treated bad because im short and ugly?
you clearly dont know what the blackpill is.

More like implying that they should stop thinking that women owe them sex.

everyone deserves and is owed love and affection by society.

When did I say that? I would very much prefer it if men could just desenter women all together and focus on themselves.

you impled it, and you just admitted it now
"just abandon women since they will never love you and only want chad so you can be a good worker ant"

But it really isn't our fault that men are lonely lmfao.

it IS your fault for not accepting your looksmatch but instead only getting with the top 20%.

Could I not at least be entitled to socialization and acceptance by the world that brought me into it. I never asked to be here. All I can do is try my best. If that's not enough, what more can I give? Just fucking kill me if it's not enough.

Stop getting real women to feel entitled to men's money labor and protection then you can tell your fellow men to stop ever expecting sex from women.

Yeah and I'm saying it's weird for you to police people at the very bottom of the totem pole with how they deal with their total alienation. If females said they were entitled to food, water, shelter, etc you wouldn't bat an eye.

Because they are hot LMFAO. As if males don't disproportionately message stacy.

We do but we're still attracted to average female. I don't think females are le bad for lusting after Chad you're just following your instincts too.

The top 20% is very individual though.

It's not female attraction is very uniform at least compared to men. Tons of men like or prefer small boobs but you'll almost never hear a girl say she likes small dicks. Same thing for height, dominance, race, face, build, etc...

For example I'm not so picky about height but prefer a cute face.

Yeah you're not so picky about height yet you want him to be taller than you. And yes face is above all.

Margot Robie is mid.

she is, she's a 5/10 with a large mouth

I've felt more attraction to waitresses, cashiers and students IRL. I don't know why foids are so obsessed with Margot Robbie. I've never lusted after Hollywood celebs

its not misogyny to realize that only looks matters in society

It is Misogyny to think that women are a hivemind who are attracted to the same things.

its misogynistic to say that ive been treated bad because im short and ugly?

No. Not at all, but saying that women are a hivemind is.

everyone deserves and is owed love and affection by society.

If it involves forcing women to partner up with men that they have nothing in common with than no.

you impled it, and you just admitted it now "just abandon women since they will never love you and only want chad so you can be a good worker ant"

Do you honestly think that no one could ever be attracted to you?

it IS your fault for not accepting your looksmatch but instead only getting with the top 20%

I don't have to accept anyone lmfao.

Could I not at least be entitled to socialization and acceptance by the world that brought me into it.

Really depends on what you mean with acceptance.

Stop getting real women to feel entitled to men's money labor and protection

Most women work and contribute.

Yeah and I'm saying it's weird for you to police people at the very bottom of the totem pole with how they deal with their total alienation.

If how they deal with their issues affects me and my safety than no it really isn't weird that I want to "police them"

If females said they were entitled to food, water, shelter, etc you wouldn't bat an eye

Because those are actual entitlements that should be owed to everyone.

It's not female attraction is very uniform at least compared to men

Are you kidding? LMFAO. Its well known that women have types.

Tons of men like or prefer small boobs but you'll almost never hear a girl say she likes small dicks.

Because we don't fetishize men's bodies. We actually care about your character where's men only want big titty virgin stacy. If a male is passionate about his interests he will almost always have a niche of women who like him.

Most women work and contribute

Less than men. They work less hours and pay less taxes and expect men to both help them with work and pay them further when it comes to "romance". Again get rid of real women's entitlement towards men then you can fairly tell your fellow men to stop being entitled towards women.

It is Misogyny to think that women are a hivemind who are attracted to the same things.

it is not misogynistic to KNOW that women are a hivemind who are attracted to the same things.
they are a monolith, because they havent done anything to prove otherwise.

If it involves forcing women to partner up with men that they have nothing in common with than no.

you dont understand the blackpill, but instead here you are admitting the hypergamy in society.
women simply do not see men that are sub 5 as viable partners, so they only settle for top end. effectively making the bottom 50% very lonely.

its great hypocrisy, in the op you are saying its men's fault for being lonely because its THEM who dont want a relationship/to settle, yet in this post you are saying were forcing them in other words we WANT them but they DONT want us, clearly implying its women's fault for not being with us.
you need to get your logic proper first. too oxymoronic.

Do you honestly think that no one could ever be attracted to you?

yes. i am 5'3 and hideous.

I don't have to accept anyone lmfao.

then you dont have the option of trying to school us on OUR loneliness, when its you women that dont give a fuck and dont wanna do anything about it.
you just made this thread to attack us for no reason, blaming us for everything and telling us "just be a hermit monk bro", if you cant properly empathize then dont make a post about it.
unless youre just malicious and want a chance to make fun of a bunch of dudes who are already lonely and mentally agitated.

The majority of men not being able to fulfill their physiological needs should affect you it's a systemic issue. If were gonna allow females to do their mate selection model we should at least subsidize and normalize stuff like VR and porn escapism because most of us can't compete genetically IRL.

Because those are actual entitlements that should be owed to everyone.

How are they different loneliness will kill you too? Faster than alcohol and cigarette addiction will combined.

Are you kidding? LMFAO. Its well known that women have types.

Yes it's well know they like nerdy boys (chadlite), sporty boys (chadlite), bad boys (chadlite), and so on and so on. You all want the same thing with a draped in a different aesthetic.

Hmm actually we all have the same type and think everyone below that is ugly because we don't fetishize men

Lel you fetishize chad also having sexual thoughts about the opposite sex isn't a bad thing. Notice how in all those traits men have broad interests while females don't? I'll even add another, status.

We actually care about your character where's men only want big titty virgin stacy.

Projection. Like I said men have broad tastes unlike you.

If a male is passionate about his interests he will almost always have a niche of women who like him.

Most men are passionate about stuff the vast majority of females aren't and we have to fight over the scraps amongst ourselves. For them to even have a shot they need to be mtn.

If men just dropped these expectations they would be much happier.

If a man is made happy through the validation of a woman, or through sex with her, then he never truly had problems to begin with. No matter who loves me, or who I am inside, my misery eats away at me. Most men want what most women want - love, and understanding. You and most of the vacuous morons on this board are collectively pornbrained, even if you think you arent, youve been hoodwinked into believing everyone is like you, and this permits you to make empty generalisations about the opposite sex. I wish agony upon you, and all the others

Everyone is entitled tho. Women are entitled to a dude that is taller than them and makes more money than them etc. People feel entitled to human rights or welfare.

Less than men

I don't believe that.

They work less hours and pay less taxes

Because of childcare and the gender pay gap. If you paid us more money we would contribute with more taxes.

Again get rid of real women's entitlement towards men

We don't have any entitlements. We want to live our lives without males policing us.

it is not misogynistic to KNOW that women are a hivemind who are attracted to the same things.

It's very misogynistic to assume that we all want the same things. It's also probably terrible for your own mental health to believe in things like this.

but instead here you are admitting the hypergamy in society. women simply do not see men that are sub 5 as viable partners,

Most women date normal men though. All of my boyfriends have been normal men.

its great hypocrisy, in the op you are saying its men's fault for being lonely because its THEM who dont want a relationship/to settle

I never said that. I said that men's unrealistic expectations are a factor as to why they struggle in dating. I also said that I can't blame men since they grew up on Hollywood rom coms.

yes. i am 5'3 and hideous.

Are you really 5'3?

then you dont have the option of trying to school us on OUR loneliness

I do because how men handle their loneliness affects women.

when its you women that dont give a fuck and dont wanna do anything about it

These are the entitlements that I'm talking about. I don't have to do anything. This is your problem, not mine.

The majority of men not being able to fulfill their physiological needs should affect you it's a systemic issue.

Who is the majority here exactly? Most men have sex and relationships. Clearly men aren't suffering that much.

If were gonna allow females to do their mate selection model we should at least subsidize and normalize stuff like VR and porn escapism because most of us can't compete genetically IRL.

No we shouldn't. Porn is an exploitative business.

another successful mass reply troon thread

We are so fucking back.

I don't believe that

It's not about belief they officially work less hours than men on average, which would contribute to a pay gap btw. Real women unlike yourself do feel entitled to men's money labor and protection. Not every one but it doesn't have to be.

How are they different loneliness will kill you too? Faster than alcohol and cigarette addiction will combined.

And your solution to that is porn and VR headsets?

Yes it's well know they like nerdy boys (chadlite), sporty boys (chadlite), bad boys (chadlite), and so on and so on. You all want the same thing with a draped in a different aesthetic.

Except that what it means to be "chad" is different for each and every woman. My boyfriend fir example isn't 6 foot tall he 5 foot 10. He doesn't like sports, instead he likes reading. He doesn't have six pack etc. We don't all want the stereotypical "Chad" My boyfriend is probably normal but to me he is hot as fuck.

Lel you fetishize chad also having sexual thoughts about the opposite sex isn't a bad thing

Because chad is hot.

Projection. Like I said men have broad tastes unlike you

Is that why men call Margot Robbie mid?

No matter who loves me, or who I am inside, my misery eats away at me

This sounds like depression. Have you always felt like this?

youve been hoodwinked into believing everyone is like you, and this permits you to make empty generalisations about the opposite sex-

Ah never mind. You are just an angxty teen having an edgy mantrum. Hope that your depression gets better though.

It's very misogynistic to assume that we all want the same things.

yet you women have done nothing to convince me otherwise, you still all lust after the same few guys

It's also probably terrible for your own mental health to believe in things like this.

thats not an argument for why its empirically false, something can cause you mental distress but that doesnt mean its not reality.

Most women date normal men though. All of my boyfriends have been normal men.

define normal men, most women are dating htn's (6/10) and above, who are at least 5'10 or above. some might have a temporary fling with a "shorter" guy aka 5'8 to 5'9 but thats about it.
there is no long term relationships for ugly guys like me who are sub5 or actually short instead of just average height. picrel.

I said that men's unrealistic expectations are a factor as to why they struggle in dating

what unrealistic expectations? that your looksmatch will consider you? wow so unrealistic.

Are you really 5'3?

wow is it that surprising? what did you think that i was a normal guy with 5/10 looks and average height? LOL
incel refers to people under 4/10 looks and under 5'8 height (5'6 and lower commonly)
i stopped growing at 14, combination of my fathers above average height (above 5'9) and mother's short height (below 5 foot) gave me short height (possible growth hormone deficiency as well since i have the frame and head/face of a 14 year old too).
short and ugly women keep creating ugly guys like me by reproducing with taller and average looks guys or even attractive guys.

I do because how men handle their loneliness affects women.

LITERALLY HOW? all we do is isolate and give up in life and get out of society.

These are the entitlements that I'm talking about. I don't have to do anything. This is your problem, not mine.

you dont have to do anything but fuck chad? there you go. thats why theres a loneliness epidemic. stop crying and go fuck chad already instead of bothering us

yet you women

That's not a woman

i know, i dont care
the point is explaining the blackpill to any lurker

I bet you are a morbidly obese smelly femcel. No one loves you.

Who is the majority here exactly? Most men have sex and relationships. Clearly men aren't suffering that much.

1/3rd of guys aged 18-24 haven't had sex in the last year. Zero. Only the top 20% are having an adequate amount (not ignoring the validation and intimacy that comes from having those types of relations).
There are more depressed alienated men around than ever before. The incel movement of proof of that.

No we shouldn't. Porn is an exploitative business.

I disagree but I don't mind if it's restricted to anime/3dcg stuff.

And your solution to that is porn and VR headsets?

Well if we refuse to address the root cause (female hypergamy/mate strategy) the second best option is at least allowing men to drop out comfortably and fulfill their needs through fantasy.

Except that what it means to be "chad" is different for each and every woman.

Not his genetics.

My boyfriend fir example isn't 6 foot tall he 5 foot 10.

So several inches above you. Good start.

He doesn't like sports, instead he likes reading.

That is THE most popular hobby when you ask females to rate male hobbies.

He doesn't have six pack etc.

Yes females don't like overly lean bodies only lean faces again standard.

Because chad is hot.

I'm not even judging you for it but why pretend you have a type when it's just some arbitrary hobby? Especially juxtaposed with male types which actually have variance. Again I listed a bunch of biological traits that guys have a variety of preferences on while for females there are a few outliers at best.

Is that why men call Margot Robbie mid?

I don't anything about her but from her pictures she's not my type. Too masculine I like cute girls.