is it a coincidence that most philosophers and writers tend to be loners and outcasts. If your Chad why would you waste your time pondering life and meaning of it when you live your life optimally. One never needs to question reality since it works perfectly for him.
Lot of us anons tend to be more self reflective cause it arises due to fact reality itself has rejected us so we turn towards ourselves and look
For the Anwser their.
My personal philosophy:
Pee pee poo poo me doo doo da da
U dont believe in the black pill? We are inceld right
I think that solitary lifestyles lend themselves to contemplation. I don't know if that necessarily means that philosophers and writers are "loners and outcasts," though.
Women genuinely enjoy rape if you're a chad, in fact, if you're 6'2, you can't rape a woman, since she would want it anyway. They want to be choked, thrown against a wall, and pounded by a 12 lbs salami until they see stars.
Funny to say when someone like schopenhauer had a pretty active social circle and fucked many bitches
Yeah but would you agree that incels and loners probably have a much more vivid inner world compared to extroverts and women? They interact daily with outside world that they rarely have to turn inwards but we tend to do so a lot as a coping mechanism since we were burned by reality. Inevitably some get anxiety, neurosis and depression with constantly interfacing their inner worlds. Chad and Stacy usually act on instinct with little thought compared to us.
What do you mean by 'philosophers'?
Almost none of the famous philosophers were outcasts (persecution due to belief aside), and most of them were not heavily introverted.
The reason why 'Chad' is not so often in such fields is because, by definition, this is someone who 9/10 times prefers extraverted, people-oriented activities. So there are more introverts.
good looking
tend to socialize more easily
rarely pursue or find interest in introverted hobbies
Yeah, of course, but that's because normies and women are shielded from introspection since they never experience hardship.
I'm not that anon but I just don't think most incels are that contemplative. I think there may be a correlation, but not anything clearly linked. I do think that the type of person who is contemplative is more likely to become a loner and an outcast, or at least to feel that way internally, so this may lead "contemplative people" down the pipeline to "inceldom".
As for that anon I think almost all great artists were some degree of outcast or internally tortured and alienated. I can think of a lot of examples, but it doesn't really need to be elaborated on, the tortured artist is a trope for a reason.
They had salons where they discussed their new ideas and here you are thinking they were some asocial incels
Salons are so cool, we need to bring them back
Fuck there's like nothing for intellectuals to do anymore, probably because there are no more intellectuals
Wouldnt you agree suffering and mismatch in reality with your preconceived notions could push someone to reflect? Like you said about tortured artists it is through the pain and suffering that they are able to vividly describe and express themselves. Plus if your constantly interacting with your inner world you might have a much better understanding compared to someone who is able to act on instinct with minimal introspection. If Anon Babble didnt exist i might be conversing at local library instead anon.
Plus
Socrates
Spinoza
Nietzche
kiekergard
Marx
Only those outside of society can be able to best critique it anons. In same way we incels are able to call out narrative that looks dont matter and women prefer personality. Its reddit and twitter
Reddit and twitter are full of retards though
I think everyone ponders life, but outcasts have views that gets them shunned from the mainstream. this si because those views challenge social status structures and things considered taboo that are just power games at their core.
r/philosophy
Try it out
You're not equal to those philosophers and scientists, most of them come from prestigious backgrounds or grow to have lavish lifestyles to finance their solitary runaways
you're just a sad sack of shit who was forced into isolation and woe is me and pondering what went wrong with his miserable existence, it's a world of difference from savants who willingly dedicate their life to thinking about greater things than pussy in vagina while in isolation
power games
What is an example of a power game you criticize that could get you shunned?
Plus lets say hypothetically everything in your life goes well would you ever find the need to critique it or even ponder it. Would it not be the ones who society doesnt work for that would gain most by questioning the social status and taboos.
same for you cant critique what you don't partake in or dont understand, your ideas will always be secondhand assumptions rooted in bitterness and a false sense of moral superiority
all incels, outcasts, autists... share the same 2-3 kitsch unsophisticated worldviews
Yes, they're actual midwits masturbating to pop philosophy.
Top post this month:
"A new age of shamelessness" Slavoj ZiZek on Trump, authoritarians and "the new left"
Top Comment: Zizek confuses me, I watched a recent interview of him where he identified as a radical feminist and a moderate conservative communist.
Even from one of Zizek's better takes
I think it is a bit disingenuous of him to say "the left wants to move beyond neoliberalism and Trump did it". The left wants to move beyond neoliberalism AND Bonapartism.
And a guy replies
Yeah I'm having trouble taking him seriously here, he's repeating a lot of conservative talking points in long-form here. Harris spent the lion's share of her brief campaign talking policies, but the right accused her of being all about idpol and enough people didn't think to actually listen to her, so they just went along with it. I expected Zizek to see through that, regardless of the narrative, but it sounds like he couldn't be bothered
It's an entire subreddit of lobotomites.
Yeah but isnt it through suffering and malignancy of life that tends to push one out of society enough to see it for what it is. Yeah I might be sad sack of shit but wouldnt constant alienation and being ostracized help give me a different perspective compared to someone immersed in the water and is unable to see or contemplate outside of it. Society progresses cause the select few that are pushed out will be ones to ring the alarms of what is wrong with the system. Whether its women rights or racism and homophobia.
I can't imagine a webpage I want to visit less
Actually most famous writers and philosophers had social connections.
If you're a legit loner it's unlikely anyone will ever publish or read what you write.
Harris herself was identity politician choice since Biden chose her as token black women
Society progresses cause the select few that are pushed out will be ones to ring the alarms of what is wrong with the system.
kek no one gives a shit about the opinions of outcasts or peasants
this is some insane autofellatio, please go ahead and point out said loners warning society about anything other than crying about negroes in video games no one but them plays
They're either retarded or trolls, since their metric for what makes someone good is
prestigious background
and
lavish lifestyle
They're retards.
exactly anon, only the insane would think the Anon Babble autistic incels aren't on the same level as spinoza, hegel, zola...
Notes from the underground
Kafka
Elliot Rodger manifesto
Why do you think stuff like anti discrimination, slavery , lgbtq rights and women rights were slowly accepted into the mainstream. Most people arent gay and America was predominantly white in the 60a as they rolled in anti discrimination policies. For most white men they never cared to point out flaws in system so didnt care or feel need to critic anything. It is the slave /oppressed class via suffering and anguish are able to see system at its entirety since they are the ones who feel most left out and hurt by it. Master class
How do you know next hegel isnt here plus look at how normalized incel
Lingo has become in past decade from r9k and incel subreddits to children playgrounds. We were first to publicize the flaws of dating and gender worlds. We tacitly pointed out that most women do not care about personality but rather looks determine your success and how you look will also determine sort of personality you tend to have. Incels have had a significant influence on modern society and made lots of people question the blue pilled narrative that was prevalent for decades.
yet those philosophers individually accomplished more for the world than a billion chads, but they probably shouldnt have contributed to the system that keeps them under chad's feet
their only mistake
many didnt like stirner and died alone
What is an example of a power game you criticize that could get you shunned?
talking about aliens is taboo, and the coverup of them is definitely a power game.
Plus lets say hypothetically everything in your life goes well would you ever find the need to critique it or even ponder it. Would it not be the ones who society doesnt work for that would gain most by questioning the social status and taboos.
if everything in your life goes well you would probably notice how lucky you were compared to other people and ponder their lives.
yes outcasts who society doesn't work for gain immense freedom mentally, financially from questioning what money, power, respect, honor, lust, violence actually are. they don't see the value in those things or see the value in a different way, therefore making them a threat to the social system that values them as the epitome or whatever.
>Kafka = Elliot Rodger manifesto
we
our
you losers are too lost in the sauce
normies invented and coned everything around you, even your shitty "lingo" and "culture" yes. Even if we pretend that there's a world where the r9k loser has that much leverage, it's still on such a useless topic and gender wars were a thing before you were even born
it's over, you have no impact on the world, you'll never be any of the madmen who isolated themselves to serve humanity, you're an outcast because you SUCK, and because you're a genetic dead end, not out of choice
for example, tell a rich business hedgefund freak that a homeless man is placed here by God to teach non judgement and compassion and is in fact a complete equal soul, and it can challenge his perception, i guess.
There are very few massive influential intellectuals now. Just like there are no more Einsteins, Lord Kelvins, and Newtons, there are also no modern Fichtes, Hegels, and Kants. It's just because of how society has organized itself. Instead of one genius making a breakthrough mostly alone, it's a group of 10 or 20 in a dedicated, government funded team.
Similarly, as pointed out, despite being such a small percentage of the population, incels are disproportionately influential on culture. I'm not saying the average incel is as gifted as the Kelvins, the Bachs, the Dostoevskys, etc., what I am (and probably OP is) saying is that incels tend to contemplate more because they have no one to talk to and no where to go. Are their thoughts quality? Probably not. Are they unique? Obviously yes. That's why incel ideology became a unique and now heavily researched field.
Grow up.
Well what is something going well for you now that you never gave mich thought of. We tend to hyper focus on what we are lacking and not what we dont lack.
Kafka was an incel plus I dont get why your trying to rile anons up here arent you one of us too.
Kafka wasn't a normie. He was an extreme pervert, mentally ill, depressed, and the only reason he wasn't an incel is because in those days any psycho freak would have been arranged a marriage by their parents (its why incels look on the past so affectionately)
Einsteins, Lord Kelvins, and Newtons, there are also no modern Fichtes, Hegels, and Kants.
Kelvins, the Bachs, the Dostoevskys,
those people contemplated on the world as a bigger picture
you're contemplating on your immediate misery due to the lack of your carnal needs, you're no different than an ethiopian who writes poems about how starved he is except you're not even writing poems, just hyping yourself up in this hugbox of a thread
They offer new perspective and pushed the boundaries of current zeitgeist. For most of human history it is a small group that was on the outer rings of society that inevitably encapsulated it. Whether it is communism , Christianity, Islam , enlightenment or abolitionists.
contemplating on your immediate misery
Yeah but the Ethiopian slave starving might be able to understand that him starving is due to surplus being horded to be sold for profit rather then being reinvested into the community. We dont complain about sex but rather how sex is shared and proliferated in society. Your mistaking effect for the cause anon.
tach and Brod state that during the time that Kafka knew Felice Bauer, he had an affair with a friend of hers, Margarethe "Grete" Bloch,[80] a Jewish woman from Berlin. Brod says that Bloch gave birth to Kafka's son, although Kafka never knew about the child. The boy, whose name is not known, was born in 1914 or 1915 and died in Munich in 1921.[81][82] However, Kafka's biographer Peter-Andre Alt says that, while Bloch had a son, Kafka was not the father, as the pair were never intimate.[83][84] Stach points out that there is a great deal of contradictory evidence around the claim that Kafka was the father.[85]
this man is absolutely just like any of you losers, anon
communism
posh jews and favored people with lavish backgrounds
christianity
a jew from a lineage of prophets
islam
the heir of a long lived tribe, a succesful merchant who voluntarily isolated himself for religious purposes
enlightenement
people from refined backgrounds
A load of nothing unrelated to my post.
As expected, you have no original thoughts or intellect outside of lengthy autofellatio
the cause or effect doesn't matter, you're starved and crying for food. dont take your cry for help as some kind of bravado
world as a bigger picture
you're contemplating on your immediate misery due to the lack of your carnal needs,
I'm sorry anon, but there were many famous people and philosophers that very well did write and philosophize essentially because of their own tortured carnal needs. Schopenhauer is one good example already ITT, but there were others like Cioran, Kierkegaard, if we are talking about literature, Kafka, Dostoevsky, Plath, etc., the list could go on. A lot of their writings were just reflections and copes for their own tortured lives. Dostoevsky's most infamous character that he named after himself was his most wretched, for example.
Philosophers did a lot of writing:
Hence, it will be found that the fundamental fault of the female character is that it has no sense of justice. This is mainly due to the fact, already mentioned, that women are defective in the powers of reasoning and deliberation; but it is also traceable to the position which Nature has assigned to them as the weaker sex. They are dependent, not upon strength, but upon craft; and hence their instinctive capacity for cunning, and their ineradicable tendency to say what is not true.
Incels do a lot of writing, the format is different but the writing is there. How do you like the above? It sounds right out of an incel's mouth. That's schopenhauer. You probably remember the copypasted and screencapped effortposts that can posted now and then, these are the same insights. Actually, there are even closer examples; Many figures had journals that we get a lot of their philosophy from. If nothing else, comments are a very modern form of journaling, writing one's thoughts, etc.
Marx
Relied on income from engles and occasional journal and lived in poverty
christianity
Jews oppressed under the Roman Empire crafted a more egalitarian religion that connected with slaves across and down trotted.
mohamed
Was an orphan who married a 49 yr old merchant women that was inevitably kicked out of his city due to his beliefs.
enlightenment
People criticizixing how power was solely monopolized by aristocracy and priest class which came from resentment.
incels never innovated or influenced anything outside of their internet circlejerks
this man is absolutely just like any of you losers, anon
OP isn't saying incel, he's talking about outcasts and loners. Read the original post you legit 75IQ peanut brain. Inceldom is just a common result of being an outcast.
incels never innovated or influenced anything outside of their internet circlejerks
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
More than 90 research papers on incels just on listed on pubmed.
Incel ideology is mainstream
Inceldom is so mainstream that the British PM is running a campaign against it
Adolescence, and incel show featured in Parliament
If you're that retarded just say it.
Nonsense, men are social animals and loners were never real loners, they were people that had special circles and a lot of contacts. Most of these famous guys have books about the letters they sent to others.
And incels are also talking to people constantly over the modern form of communications.
Do you think hundreds of year later people will study our posts
People perform archeology on fart jokes carved into Pompeian walls. I think internet forums are not comparable because there's too much garbage relative to good posts, but I do think some form of analysis or "internet archeology" will happen, if only to study the minds and sentiments of people in the early 21st century.
The real difference is that we can't really compare the way people were isolated back then with how they are now. Modern industrial society supports the conditions that allow individuals to be almost completely atomized (overused and misused term I know), in the past you would be very personally raised by your parents, by pedagogues, and so on, and there certainly weren't neetbux if it wasn't managed by family. If a modern "incel" were to grow up then, he would likely have a bunch of relationships he's "comfortable" with, but the persistent mental illnesses and alienation that comes with it would remain. Modern lonerism and inceldom is just one of the ways that this sort of behavior can present itself.
You can't even find archives of this place at its early years so no