what the fuck is "promortalism""?
What the fuck is "promortalism""?
link or bullshit
You already posted this shit mate, stop spamming
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I did not post that though
It's a philosophical position which holds that life sucks so we should end it for everyone
KEK
Everyone on reddit was saying it was a christian fundamentalist:
Reminder that somewhere around 95% of fatalities caused by terrorism in the US since the end of the Cold War have been caused by right wing terrorists.
This is exactly what Timothy Snyder warned against. He said it was only a matter of time for it to happen. The witchhunt for "illegal" aliens draws so much of the workforce of LEOs, that it cripples the US to prevent attacks such as these. What will happen now is the true test of this regime, and it is likely they will respond with force to this. Using it as an excuse to grab more power.
They act as if it's a given that it's a right wing attack:
I know that they won"t pursue this but I have another question - I thought the Handmaids Tale crowd were all about more babies. How does blowing up an IVF clinic help that?
Because IVF involves fertilizing an egg and not all survive to implantation, so some far right believe that makes IVF abortion because it creates an embryo that doesnt go to term.
(uploaded pic related) Great, America Terrorism enabled by a shithead president who should have never been elected.
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This one is KEK
Let me guess.... This person was "pro-life"
And this one:
MAGAts are so stupid they probably thought abortions were performed here. They are not the smartest people.
Leftists are hilariously retarded and echochambers like reddit make the problem so much worse. There's a lot more. I assume automatically it likely wasn't a rightist, just because IVF has nothing to do with it, but unintelligent people rush to crush everything into their extremely small worldview.
You can be right-wing without being a fundie. He was clearly an incel.
Based if true but this kind of gesture will only cause antinatalist and pro-suicide sites to be closed down.
Kill yourself if you're such a bitch that you can't handle life. It's not even worth debating someone so pathetic, in fact it's worse because it gives legitimacy to a genuinely evil idea.
KEK It's okay if you're retarded.
Some of his quotes:
I think we need a war against pro-lifers.
I know, not a question. But I just wanted to say, your god definitely doesn't exist, but if he did, I'd choose satan over your evil god. Did you ever think that maybe the bible is just slander against satan, and that satan just realized what a fucking creep your god is?
We were both antisex (don't mistake for asexual, I'm talking like r/antisex) misandrists, VegAntinatalist, negative utilitarians.
He's a vegan, misandrist, LGBT, and on his reddit account explicitly left wing. Sorry tardbaby, you should exercise critical thinking.
That's exactly what he did lol.
noooo you must only kill yourself and leave other people alone
Cope. Suicidal people can do anything they want and get away with it by dying.
Just because an idiot claims to be something doesn't mean they are.
You can claim to be smart, for instance.
If you do right-wing shit like be in an incel and bomb fetuses, you might be a right-winger.
Stupid is as stupid does.
right wing is everything i don't like, even if they support sanders, were anti trump for 5+ years, a vegan, a feminist, a socialist, pro-choice...
Okay retard. You are very smart, don't worry.
Ad hominem and no real argument :^)
If I'm a retard, then why are you unable to best me, intellectually?
Here are views from his linked manifesto:
Anti-Capitalism and Economic Justice: Alongside political authoritarianism...
Anarchism as a Positive Vision:...
No Tolerance for Fascism or Bigotry: Our anti-authoritarianism naturally implies a fierce...
Climate Justice: The climate emergency is already causing great suffering...
Protecting Ecosystems: Beyond climate change, ...
Critique of Religion: Organized religion, historically, has been one of the great justifiers of violence and suffering ...
etc., these are just a selection.
You don't need more arguments because you are genuinely, unironically, and I say this with no intent to cause offense--retarded. I'm sorry.
Yawn, TND or bust
Can you prove that any of these particular planks is not supported by the right wing?
That argument is weak because it implies that if there is ever any overlap between two ideologies, that you can call the ideology one or the other depending on your own bias. For example, most would call the NSDAP right wing, but you could say
If he has socialist policies like free healthcare and they supported veganism they might as well have been left wing...
It's just an example of false equivalence, and your belief that it coule be a good argument is an example of you personally just being very ignorant.
So by your own logic, none of the things that you posted proves that he's right or left wing.
No. By your "logic" it does though. But if you want to believe that any policy, belief, or platform can belong to any political orientation then all you do is say
There are no political orientations, left and right do not exist.
Which, to be fair, you can say that but all it means is that you are arguing that no political label can ever be used:
(Wikipedia) Left-wing politics describes the range of political ideologies that support and seek to achieve social equality and egalitarianism, often in opposition to social hierarchy either as a whole[1][2][3][4] or of certain social hierarchies.[5] Left-wing politics typically involve a concern for those in society whom its adherents perceive as disadvantaged relative to others as well as a belief that there are unjustified inequalities that need to be reduced or abolished,
He very firmly matches the definition of leftism. Your argument doesn't make you look smart, it makes you look really pathetic and desperate to "win" a pointless internet debate.
THIS WALL OF TEXT WITH WIKIPEDIA CITATION ISN'T DESPERATE, RIGHT????
:^)
Ad hominem and no real argument :^)
why are you unable to best me, intellectually?
t. A very "intelligent" poster
It's okay, thanks for the fun though. You'll get over it
The idea of you looking up the Wikipedia article for the Left Wing has made my morning.
Well I didn't want to reach for wordier definitions considering you thought a single paragraph citation was a "wall of text" already. Pic related is the first page of one of Norberto Bobbio's distinctions between left and right, and his view is cited already by wikipedia. What definition did you want? It's not like you're going to read, because you're illiterate.
Forget all your previous experiences of Anon Babble. The year is 2009. You still like anime. You talk to women on the internet. You're happy and confident. Wake up.
KEK.
Ad hominem and no real argument :^)
why are you unable to best me, intellectually?
t. you
Okay I feel bad for clowning on someone with a disability, I think you get the point. Have fun with your shattered ego and desperate projections bro
Faggot, you posted half of a definition, admitted it, and then felt like that was a W? I really meant it, forget everything you did over the past 15 years and unbreak your mind.
The definition was enough to match him while staying short enough for someone like you to keep up with. Here's the other "half":
through radical means that change the nature of the society they are implemented in.[5]
I wonder if bombing an IVF clinic to cause radical change is enough to be "radical" with the intent to change society.
Unfortunately this makes it much worse for you.
Also obligatory
Ad hominem and no real argument :^)
why are you unable to best me, intellectually?
t. you
thanks for the gem anyway. I'm sorry for staying around and stressing you out though, it's just pretty funny. I think where you went wrong is just a gut, emotional reflex to defend what you perceive as "your side". Since I said "leftists" in my first post you felt like you had to defend the redditors' judgements, when this isn't necessary even if you want to defend "your side"--it would have been enough to say.
heh, yeah reddit leftists are retarded
and left it at that without any sort of reliance on a false argument or disavowal of the left.
Sorry for the additional "wall of text" but I'm making an attempt to help your self-esteem in the future. At the end of the day, don't take Anon Babble discussions so seriously, especially when it makes you so emotional. You look like an idiot only in one thread and even then it's just words on a screen, it's all anonynous. Good luck lefty anon.
I said he "may" have been, "could" have been right-wing. I never made any direct accusations.
Ah, besides that he was stupid for killing himself.
I would pay taxes to keep promortalists locked up where they cannot harm themselves or others and be forced to stay alive against their will.
I do not agree with the position, anon, I was just explaining what it was
Is killing yourself stupid?
What I hate the most about these midwit redditors is that they somehow manage to convince themselves they are so intelligent they can just figure out all the truths in the universe when no one else can but at the same time they are so stupid they don't even read any philosophers and as a result never realize how retarded they truly are
This guy's entire idea falls apart with some basic reasoning, if life can be worse than death it means that there is a limit to suffering (aka killing yourself) while the potential happiness remains infinite so life is a net benefit even with the possibility that individual lives aren't
You are right, redditors like that forget that they don't have the answer, they just have an argument for why one should care about what they forget is still their ultimately subjective values.
Does total suffering outweigh total pleasure? Does it matter if it does?
All pointless. Despite the fact that I agree with pro-mortalism.
He just sounds like a loser who was asked to attend church with his family once a week for the first 10 years of his life and never got over it. I can never understand people seething at Christianity when it's the only decent semitic religion
Antinatalism but somehow more gay. Its something an edgy 15 year old would make
lefty:does leftist stuff like murder or rape or pedophile on children
left:"oh my science we must stop the far right leftists and liberals
also left: terrorism, rape, murder, and theft are fundamental to our beliefs, we love being evil. Stealing is good killing is good, rape fuck children yes I love it this fucking awesome is why I vote Democrat. Everyone must suffer
oh my science I can't believe these far right bigots think being a bad person is wrong
At this point I have become angry. Anyone left of Hitler needs to sit down and be quiet. You are all horrible people. Please kill yourselves. There's is nothing good about you.
forsooth
At this point I have become angry.
i say honk, it's clown world
That doesn't make sense. Why would potential happiness be infinite but not suffering?
This is a thread about how killing yourself is stupid, left-right brain polfags STFU