We need to accept that most men are just not beautiful enough to be in a relationship. It is what it is

We need to accept that most men are just not beautiful enough to be in a relationship. It is what it is.

Honestly who gives a fuck what an only fans model says

Statistics seem to agree with her, it's not just the opinion of an onlyfans model. I think women just don't really like men.

Looks don't matter in long term relationships.

they don't like certain men. they very much like the top tier men.

also a lot of average men and women are getting together having kids marrying etc. this is a false premise "a 9 or 10 doesn't want to marry a 5-6" yeah no shit sherlock. lots of 5-6 male and females are getting together.

Long term relationships are down across the board ever since women have ways to secure their own resources.

also a lot of average men and women are getting together having kids marrying

But that's not happening, they are not getting married and they are barely having any kids. Are you just going to straight up lie?

I disagree about most of them being too physically unappealing to date. Most men do date and do get laid. However, there is a small minority, which is most likely too repulsive to have a realistic chance to date. But, if you're so physically unappealing, that you manage to use it to gain some sort of status, then paradoxically you'll still have good chances. But if you're ugly, but not so ugly that it's freak-show-worthy, then you're kinda fucked. I definitely consider myself to be quite repulsive, not just in terms of my physical features, but also in terms of all other characteristics I have. I accept that dating women is not for me, but I'll be butthurt about it forever.

Most men do date and do get laid.

says who?

didn't say "all of them" did i? maybe learn to read?

tbf % of men reporting not having sex in a year or 2 years is like the highest that's ever been. if too ugly is small % and average is majority that wouldn't be the case. or are we supposed to assume the % of the too ugly/repulsive guys suddenly shot up from 2% or w/e to 15% ??

You said "a lot". That would imply sustenance numbers at the bare minimum and that's not happening you insincere, weaselly cunt.

Stats. Most guys do get laid by the time they reach 25yo. I looked into it some time ago, and that's still the reality. But I don't have those studies on hand right now, so I understand your skepticism.

The guys that are scared you'll take all the good girls from them.
They need you to give up.

slept with a drunk fat girl once before i hit 25

i'm set for life bro

bruh. literally highest number of people reporting not having sex in 1-2 years, lowest number of marriages, highest number of people reporting not being in relationship or having friends. etc.

I simply didn't see that in the data I looked at. There might be an uptick, but it's still confined to a small minority. But if you have a study on hand that I apparently haven't seen and which showcases what you're talking about, then I'll have a look at it.

Bluntly I never understood why it matters what is the majority and isn't. What is -your- life. Hell it's the fucking internet, that guy in the shutter sock photo and Only Fans model have over 250 miles between them, you really think her opinion matters? Also the dude in that photo has three kids so it's not like he's suffering. And for fucksakes the "recent college grad is a 27yo trust fund baby that's finding out her only choices are daddies bank account or some other guys bank account as the only means to not have to do any real work. Why are we giving any of these idiots head space? They likely don't even live the same state/country as you but you give a shit what they think? Might as well get pissed at fairy tale characters while you are at it.

Then again, if you all wised up the internet wouldn't be as fun...

Statistics can tell you whatever you want to hear really. Also you need to use data as a means to navigate the world to your benefit rather than it be some weird ass blanketed statement about what you want the world to be/not be.

We need to accept that most men are just not beautiful enough to be in a relationship. It is what it is.

yes and the solution to the genetic genocide we men are witnessing is, you guessed it...

revolution

That's a female cope. No one is going to lift a finger.

the incel revolution will just be posting statistics on xitter a little more often than usual for a week.
nothing ever happens

picrel

That guy is an utter retard who's completely disconnected from reality. There's no data to support any of his claims. It's grifting to play into a revenge fantasy of a small group of losers.

nothing ever happens

'79 mullah revolution was an incel revolution, taiping rebellion was literally driven by skewed sex ratios with a lot of angry single men, commie revolutions are bound to have had a lot of resentful, bitter single men in their cadres to exact their revenge fantasies against rich, handsome chads who were busy fornicating with mistresses or the local village maiden, etc.. It definitely won't be driven by clowns like you who reside in their mom's basement, that's for sure.

That's bullshit, incels don't even think about any kind of revolution. The incel revolution is a female fantasy in which they somehow convince the masses to take down the the powers that be and finally give them what they truly desired all along, universal basic income.

It's the ultimate goal of women as a collective, not having to share space with men and also not having to work. Guess what, it's never going to fucking happen, ever.

think women just don't really like men.

Women just don't like *ugly men.
If you think women don't like men, you've never watched a seemingly normal girl turn into a bitch in heat over a top man. It's unreal. They'll throw their whole life away in five seconds flat for him. That's when you realize it all just boils down to instincts in the end, we just dress it up nice to make it seem like we're not just a bunch of animals, but at the end of the day we are.

This ignores modern realities. With the invention of technology, porn, video games, etc., single men are way less violent than what you'd expect based on historical precedents. In fact, men who are single and sexless nowadays tend to be high-inhibition and are far less violent on average than men who are sexually active.

You're just just disagreeing to argue because what you said and what I said translates to the same outcome for the vast majority of men.

No, you said "women don't like men" which suggests they do not like ANY men, to which I said women actually genuinely like attractive men.
You're the one just disagreeing to argue because you said something half-baked and untrue and got corrected.

retard

79 it was an anti-jewish revolution. it was economical, had nothing to do with incels. jews with the help of the usa had occupied all major sectors of the economy. and sure the women were getting more "liberal".

same thing with the communist revolutions, they were economical not cos of no sex. that's such an idiotic take i can't even.

amen. that's the biggest redpill ever. if you seen it in real life it's like something out of a spiritual experience or smt. the reality is most women settle when they get old. if you see how young, pretty and in their prime years for breeding women act when they are in the presence of a truly the a top 5-10% guy you'd think her panties are soaking (and they are).

it is what it is. to realize you've never and will never have a women truly watching you with lustful eyes is one of the most depressing things for a man in existence to realize but what can you do eh..

decadence was still a thing in 70's iran, 1910s russia and 1850's china(literal opium was used as copium back then. kek). You must have the balls and brains to do what's necessary or just lay down and rot.Self proclaimed Incels on the internet choose the latter and are getting exactly what they deserve. They actively advocate for neetdom and NPNW and this advocacy from them is making me suspect that they're either women, trannies or legit glowies who wish to demoralize and prevent any attempts by men to gain leverage over society which can be used to bargain when they eventually revolt.

Then again, if you all wised up the internet wouldn't be as fun...

I feel like this place is a zoo and the animals here are too dumb to know better

I'm not interested in moralizing what a group of people is doing, I'm more interested in probable outcomes. And whatever the retard that made that one video prophesied is simply not going to happen, so trying to appeal to it as some sort of impotent revenge fantasy that will come true unless we get laid is retarded.

i spend my time in a place for incels and losers but im just so cool and above it all man for real haha

bruh. that's like if billionaire was spending his time in the ghetto around hood rats. ask yourself what's more pathetic, being an incel or wasting your time around incels if you are "supposedly" better than them.

ok domoralizer clown

It's more prudent to tell incels to pursue things that would make them more dateable, instead of holding out for some retarded unrealistic revolution. Or if they're completely incapable of doing that, then at least encouraging them to go fuck prostitutes, and pursue platonic relationships with women, since that would also improve their chances of something good happening in the future.

that's like if billionaire was spending his time in the ghetto around hood rats

poor analogy as the billionaire has to make his way over there. In this case you just need to punch in a website and scroll over the posts. Very low energy and it's about the same to make these posts. We know people make fake shit al the time here to take over to twitter or reddit to play stupid games about what all these "losers" think here.

ask yourself what's more pathetic

The most pathetic things is to care on that level, this thread will be gone, so will your posts, so will mine. Have you noticed how much these OPs need you to treat them like they are truths? That this is unchangeable? This place use to understand that the goal was community talking trough things, the Anon Babble of 2008~2014 understood to just talk about the people here and little else but now it's all about grand narratives that are so far past you and me. They want you to think a certain way and defend that thinking, imo that's as pathetic as it can get.

i was here in 2008

still here in 2025

totally not a loser like you losers

bruh.. i.. i can't even..

i can't even

On that much we can agree

No, they're right and you're cooked.

formation of meme platonic relationships is part of the plan to infiltrate female spaces, gain their trust and liquidate whores at moment's notice

We need to accept that most men are just not beautiful enough to be in a relationship.

Everybody in the world knows that. It's women who get mad at men for pointing it out, even though they're constantly reaffirming it.

Facts!
One of my foid friends cheated on her husband, with a neighbor of all people. Just because he took her on a motorboke rideout, and shes into bikers or whatever.

I strongly believe we should separate men and women into legal categories with different mating rights, according to attractiveness, in a sort of double pyramid scheme, normal for men, reverse for women.

I recommend a sextile-based system (but others are possible). The population is divided in 6, and each sextile assigned to top, middle or bottom class.
For men, the top class is constituted of the highest sextile, the middle class from the next two, and the bottom class from the lowest three attractiveness sextiles.
For women it's the reverse : top 3 in the top group, next two in the middle, last one in the bottom.
Then members of each group are only allowed to mate with a number of members of the same group of the other sex, in respect of these proportions.
As such, top men are allowed to have three wives from the top women, middle men are paired with one mid woman each, while bottom men can share one bottom woman between three of them.

As in :
M F
1>3
2>2
3>1

I believe it will satisfy everyone. Bottom men will still have sex, while bottom women will get money from three husbands to compensate their sacrifice. Middle people will enjoy monogamy without worrying about chad meddling, and top men and women will enjoy each other as usual.

she's into bikes

nah brah, she told him that. she was into him.

Yea maybe, my point is she turned from a faithful wife, and actually reasonable person. To a slut within mere seconds because she saw something/someone she liked.

That's brutal he's not even that ugly

What can this guy do better? Shorter sides to match his diffuse hair thinning? Better beard lines? Lose 30 pounds? Go to the gym 3+ times a week and improve his shoulders?

I think either way he's just going to be an average man and that's not good enough for average women anymore. We look very similar and I only get ass from very fat women and one mentally disturbed normal sized woman.

It is what it is.
I accept that no woman will find me attractive, I just wish they weren't so loud about wanting me to die.

most men are just not beautiful enough to be in a relationship

This would explain 2M swipe guy