Lolifags and "It's just a drawing"fags, how do you respond?

i have to say that i truly dont understand weebs and people who watch and identify with anime cartoons and stuff. i really despise the aesthetic and culture around it, it unironically gives me the "ick" when it's adults my age fawning over it.
so i always thought it was technically possible to be sexually into that, in the same way some are into animals or cars or anything. because the neotenous traits and cringe childish exaggerated expressions are inherent to the art so its hard to make porn of it that doesnt seem pedophilic
idk if this makes sense
but the "western loli" styles or AI loli shit is indefensible

Didnt read faggot, kill yourself

I think most people draw the line at lolicon. If you tell a normie what it is he will be disgusted and want anyone who enjoys it in jail or most likely dead.

Western loli includes wakfu and ben 10 and teen titans and avatar.
But I agree, AI art is the one new invention that should have restrictions on this topic, because it is guaranteed to be creating its images based on images of real children.
If you could verify that no real child images are included in the training data of an ai model thats one thing, but I don't really expect that to be possible.

How do human artists train? By seeing real children. No difference.

I don't really give a shit what it is they want banned, its a slippery slope based on vague feelings instead of any hard truth.
When your conditions can just as easily encompass real life 21 year olds with flat chests, anime hags with cowtits, and anybody wearing a skirt, then I'm not going to respect your opinion, criteria, or law.
If we get rid of all puritans that will include:
Authoritarian rightoids
Communists
Theocrats
And a good chunk of real life offending pedophiles and wife beaters.
And then everybody will be able to enjoy art without a care about society. Pretty good deal in my opinion.

And choosing to die on the loli hill isn't a good look.

If they aren't tracing a real child or referencing one then I don't fucking care. Anime lolis and chibis don't have child proportions their limbs are all fucked up compared to real humans. Even characters created by the most blatant pedo artists don't have realistic proportions.

Can't catch me faggot

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Lol. Everyone knows that the only persuasive arguments are memes

Why is it green n shit?

I don't care or think about lolicon but I'm a devils advocate

There are plenty of people who are attracted by fictional women but not irl women, might be the same case for this.
The only reason people don't like lolicon is because its a very common red flag that you might like irl children (understandably)
But if you ONLY like fictional shit then thats what it is, purely fictional. Kinda like hard kinks, they're okay to do in fantasy but not for real (like a rape kink for example)

not gonna read that, pedophilic is when i fuck children
actually a lot of things that never get called out are kind of pedophilic

Fiction causes harm

Who does it harm if someone faps to weirder shit like guro? No one

This, adults tend to do way more sus things like spank their kids in public or engage in other forms of abuse that show no regard for a child's dignity, but I guess that gets a pass because it's done in real life and thus it's harder to shame the people who do it

It's not a real argument, i think lolifags are collectively obnoxious smug autists and use it because most people dont see it from that facet of "it's just a drawing" and can't evaluate the psychological effects and implications repeated exposition to certain "drawings" can have. Or why you would be attracted to that EXACT type of drawings out of any
They're even more punched down than literal serial killers because of how pathetic their endeavors are so they play the smug "logical arguoooor" reddit card of trying to wave off the pedophilia claim when loli as a word already means pedophile
Tl;dr it's a trap to drag you into endless semantics, when you wrestle with a pig, you get muddy and the pig enjoys it whether you win or lose

My favorite argument pedos make is bringing up an example of a Kotaku writer who said loli shit is child porn and was caught with child porn on his computer. They attempt to use this as a reddit gotcha, but if Ted Kaczynski says something is a bomb I'm gonna trust his expert opinion

My lord I wish I could image dump on this board without having to write a post every time.
I don't believe in
Artstyle of consent
Face of consent
Clothes of consent
Breast size of consent
Attitude of consent
Height of consent
Weight of consent
The consent of jesus
The consent of credit card companies
The consent of console manufacturers
The consent of localization teams
I want other people's retarded ass opinions to LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE.
Woketards won't fucking stop until this shit hits real women, they won't stop until its illegal to fuck anybody who hasn't hit menopause. I'm not giving a single inch to these fucks, move to australia canada or britain and get the fuck off the internet.

Their argument about virtue signallers being pedos doesn't make sense since most people under the comments of predator poachers and TCAP for example are normies with kids or teens mostly
By their own logic everyone involved is a pedo to some varying degree

Picrel

Based, tell me why bullying whores, degenerates and simps is bad again ? This is a good start no matter how you try to skew it, yes they should absolutely crack down on females e-whoring. Next on pornstars of all kinds not just petite.

But how do i get off wahwahwah im dopamine addicted

You'll surely be fine. Either way suicide is always a solution or option

what exactly is the contwxt of this image though

E-puritan fags are really the worst. They will side against freedom of speech and support things like banks abusing their power to get legal websites shut down

Shes 21 at the time of the image, shes short, shes flat and shes cosplaying as tatsumaki from one punch man (character is short flat and 30 something) but in a bunny suit.

bullying degenerates

I bet you fap to blacked or something on that level of depravity

I respond with whatever happens to offend your delicate sensibilities, so in this case "don't care, stay buttmad, loli is based, America rules"

Clearly AI except the end where it rambles off about Jesus and afterlives. A very dumb person made that post and an even dumber person clipped it and put it here.

Some people are just short and flat. I feel bad for them trying to find partners. Either they come across a lot of pedophiles liking them only for their young looks, or they get an actual boyfriend that likes them for more than that (but will just get called a pedo by other people anyway)

The people who call said dudes pedophiles is the reason I am always on the lolicon side if this debate. This shit will not stop at anime and manga, just look at how australia bans women with less than c-cup breasts from being strippers and shit.

b-but my slippery slope fallacy

Nobody is going to convince me that slippery slope is a fallacy anymore.

More importantly the AI presents no evidence for its assertions. If fiction really "amplifies" desires towards children, where's the clinical study on that?

Im mentally ill and degenerate, only a person like me would oppose my depravity

Insane

America

That's like the most notorious country to publicly shun pedos

It's literally the only country in the anglosphere where loli is legal

someone post the copypasta image about the guy who got arrested for ordering some japanese "LOLI PUSSY MASTURBATOR" object

federalcriminaldefenseadvocates.com/lolicon-in-the-united-states
I was wondering how pedos get caught so much even when it doesn't entail on person abuse but seems that you lot are absurdly low iq on average

What is this circular logic?

Literally nothing was said in the fiction argument other than "a drawing is a drawing of SOMETHING! How does this differ from the reality? Fuck you, I won't explain" as well as "Oh, she is of age? But look at body! Let's conveniently ignore the implications towards actual petite women being damned."

In Ad Hominum, yea, it doesn't talk about the topic at hand but it is ironically hilarious.

Legality argument, very willfully ignoring the Supreme Court cases striking that bill down as unconstitutional. Also they really, really don't want to go down the rabbithole of the age of consent being 18 and not 14 for literally less than a century because using history or psychiatry blows the entire anti-loli commission out of the water since it makes the majority of loli not pedophilic even when underage by today's standards.

Do No Harm, undergoes the slippery slope fallacy itself.

The poster offered no convincing argument on any front that matters enough to imply loli as immoral.

Thats canada. Reminder that the anglosphere is the main culprit for puritanism.
Obscenity laws are complete fucking bullshit that wouldn't hold up in court if the people charged with it werent being charged already for real cp as well.

Visit Anon Babble loli is posted there constantly Anon Babble would be shut down every other day if this were the case, also there are other pages that counter what's stated in this link which is why you sourcefags are considered terrible bad faith arguers

by not reading and posting my wife

Someone has been already caught over threatening a sheriff over Anon Babble, what makes you think they're not monitoring those retards too and logging their ip adresses in case one of the slip up and posts as much as a discord account
Have you ever read the rules newfag btw ? Anon Babble completely separates itself from it's posters and clearly states that they would give tips to law enforcement if asked

You're a paranoid idiot and deny yourself the pleasure of loli because you've been cucked by puritan propaganda, if the government wanted they could trace anyone who uses Anon Babble instantaneously make no mistake, your decision to withhold your discord account isn't the barrier preventing you from being identified believe me

I deny myself jerking off to kids and cartoons and cartoons of kids because im not a mentally ill incel. Simple.

Wow you're incredibly unique and heroic, please sign my cleavage Chad

I just finished her movied for the first time the other day. How did Araragi not know that Vampires killed people. Was he stupid