Anons who are approaching 30 and haven't had sexual/romantic experiences yet, how do you feel about it...

you masturbate, you're not a virgin

Yeah, so what. You're just jelly because you're a spillcel

You've caught me red handed but out of curiosity would someone on permanent nofap but has nocturnal emissions also not be a virgin?

do you think she's on CC or something now raging at men for rejecting her

it's the stimulation not the coom. some people coom when they get touched

Just a reminder to every single permavirgin out there
You chose this life, you could shift blame to something else, but the fact is, you did everything to end up this way
So assume the responsibility

So assume the responsibility

what does this actually entail?

Too many fags find a bunch of excuses instead of just trying to play the numbers game
Because at the end of the day, dating is a numbers game

I looked her up recently. She's a high level congressional aide for a Democrat. She still has the same last name so she's either unmarried or did a heckin gigaturbofeminism. Still looks cute.

Better being an incel permavirgin loser than being stuck in a miserable sexless marriage with a fatty.
Aka the Normie life.

numbers game

well, what does that mean?

You want me to change your diapers too?

i bet you want to you sick freak. but no, i want you to tell me what a numbers game is. can you?

I can, the question is, what is a numbers game to you

He wants you to swipe 9999999999 on dating apps and take 9999999999 rejections and also walk up to women on the street like a weirdo until one day a fat one in her mid 30s will allow you to grace her with your presence before divorcing you one year later after a sexless marriage leaving you with child support for kids that arent even yours.

nice scenario you made up bro

here! and no, i prefer remaining single for now, my standards are ridiculously low, almost bare minimum for any decent person, and if i can't find a person like that then i am okay dying alone.

i don't know mate, it sounds like a meaningless platitude to say there's plenty of fish in the sea, but how is that game?

I don't play it, but I don't complain about it
The problems are the fags that are so up their own ass they think they're entitled to it

It is called the average male experience if you are below average height

You are a faggot and i will make you eat poop

Yes and no.
I was pathetically non manly and low quality dating partner so seeking dates was just a humiliation ritual.
But there was period in my life 25-30 when I approached average male in quality and could catch low hanging fruit if pushed hard. But I was completely disheartened by previous mogging experience so I completely abandoned any ideas about seeking romantic relationship (when looking back it was prime).
I seeked when I wasn't good, and abandoned hope when I had chances.
Sad story.
Now it's over.

some dumb scenario that only works on my head is the average male experience

No it isn't, you'd know this if you talked to regular people, but I'm sure you don't

you're full of shit and just want to complain yourself mate

ohhh just play the numbers game

ok... how?

i don't play it, i just want to complain

see how that's you mate?

Yeah sure thing bro. Enjoy the divorce and sexless marriage.

I'm complaining about the fags that complain about it and base their lives on the scenarios that were cherrypicked and made up by those very same fags
Just accept that you chose this life and there is no one else to blame

Whatever scenario lets you cope bud

still changing my diaper

you sick fuck

sounds like cold chest problems, try being a man next time

Do you have any thoughts or regrets you'd be open to sharing?

I regret seeking girls in my youth when I was pathetic and not ready I only burned myself and abandoned hope
I and I regret abandoning hope after I was burned in my youth, when my life and standing ad man actually improved.
But on the other hand it's all cheating . If I had that information from future I would just buy Bitcoin. Without that information I would walk exactly same path again.
Whatever happened, happened, you can't re write it, you can only look forward.

I had enthusiasm when it gave me success. I indulged in virtual worlds slaughter, hundred of thousands died to my hand. Yes videogames are pathetic, but it's only time I felt superior and I mogged everyone I met (also i regret not making videos from that time I had such sights to show you).
But can I blame myself? When I closed the door and went outside I felt weak and pathetic and everyone mogged me. When was at at my PC battlestation I was God of War.
You can't blame me for not been enthusiastic about been loser. Well whatever you thinking it's yours, I can't blame MYSELF for not been enthusiastic about been loser, it's all that matters, because it's me doing things not you.

so yeah she definitely is

Well, I'm over 30 and I generally don't have regrets about anything. I mostly understand why I behave the way I do and found some solace with it, including avoiding people and relationships at pretty much all costs, though I still don't feel like I got over my oneitis even after 10 years and the pain that comes with not attending to my human needs is still very strong.

Pretty much simply living with the pain.

It's never circumstances

It's never society

It's never bad luck

It's always someone's fault

Yours specifically

If you're lonely, a virgin, an incel, or even just by yourself, fuck you

It's your fault

I hate you fucking people

I could have saved her...

I know I know but it worked for James Carville. Yes he's gone completely insane but he had a good run.

how are you able to be fine with that? i'm just a tourist here since i can get girlfriends, but i couldn't accept a life like that. i'd rather just die if i was straight up locked out of romance/sex/family/children all together

You chose this life

I mean, you're right. I could've chosen to rape someone, yet I didn't.

Im approaching 40, but I feel the same way about it as I did approaching 30: It's not going to happen to why make a big fuss about it? The only place I ever see talk about it is Anon Babble. Otherwise its a non-factor in my life. Sex and romance is a social skill I didn't develop, but its not the end of the world. I'll never competently play an instrument or make a pretty painting, skills you typically develop early in life, but I'm not going to kill myself because I can't draw anime lol

I don't know. I have friends, I have hobbies, I don't hate my job. I don't feel lonely often. I have done this for almost 30 years and I feel like I can do it for 30 more. And I would certainly rather do this than shack up with a settling alpha widow who wouldn't have given me a second thought 10 years ago. Which realistically is my only option at this point.

but its not the end of the world.

I believe it is. It's just over and I can only cope.

how are you able to be fine with that

You just do.
How one legged man copes with been cripple? You just do.

are you in your 30s now or are you old?

there are so many different kinds of women out there that i don't think it's logical to think of them as a caricature the way you seem to.

what's the core thing you wish you had but feel is unobtainable under your current conditions?

i need to understand how men end up in this position so i don't fail the sons i'm going to have soon.

Approaching

Heh
I'm 35
khhv
I own a house, a car, and stable job.

I regret it every day that I didn't seek teenage love or a relationship back then because the girls then were at least not completely degenerates due to exposure to social media.
Facebook was the height of everything. Different quality of woman than today.

i need to understand how men end up in this position so i don't fail the sons i'm going to have soon.

you're gonna have to figure that out yourself, anon.

there are so many different kinds of women out there

There really aren't.

You're going to fuck them up one way or another anyway.

I'm 5 years from 40 and never even seen the 40 year old virgin movie. Guess I gotta check it out soon.
Granted unlike most incels, I have had girlfriends in the past, cute ones who even said they loved me and we were even naked together with foreplay. But I could still light the black flame candle.

what's the core thing you wish you had but feel is unobtainable under your current conditions?

A wife who dated and married me because she likes being with me and near me and doing stuff with me who I feel the same way about. If your sons are born outside of a time machine they're already fucked.

There are so many different kinds of women out there

Oh for sure, there are just so many. There are;

The women that get run through by the entire football team

The women that wish they got run through by the entire football team while actually getting run through by the basketball team.

The women that wish they got run through by the entire football team, not managing to score the basketball team, so settle for the swim team

The women that wish they got run through by the entire football team that can only manage to attract the math club members and call them losers.

Just so many different types of women.

Guess I gotta check it out soon.

It was made in the era where he's pretty much guaranteed to have had sex at the end of the movie so what could that ever have to do with us?

girlfriends

plural

How did this go wrong multiple times?

bruh
he's a drooling zoomer that believes the shit his retarded single mother told him just ignore that faggot

Does it still work like that? It seems like every new zoomer is a jock and nerd combined so football team doesn't seem as different.

Half a year until I'm a wizard. While I realize I wouldn't have lived my life differently, and I don't properly regret my life, every day is a constant process of giving up, reminding myself that it wouldn't work out in the first place and its not even worth trying to get.

As long as varsity athletes devote their entire lives to sportsball and ride scholarships from the youth-obsessed sports-industrial complex, it will always work like that.

If you don't devote your entire life, to the point of single-minded obsession, to one single outdoor and 'correct' hobby, then you lose, cuckboy.

So 'nerd' is now no longer associated with intelligence and good grades, 'nerd' is now a word for anyone that doesn't have an outdoor and 'correct' sportsball hobby. If you stay inside then nerd loser, and obviously you're not gonna work on your physical appearance, so the obsessive psychotic roided-up student athletes on a diet of pure whey and growth hormones are gonna curbstomp metric fucktonnes of pussy and go on to live well-adjusted social lives.

you're gonna have to figure that out yourself, anon.

why do you think i'm here?

There really aren't.

oh yes there are. just as there are different kinds of men. though i will say there's more variability among men than women. women are more likely to be normgroids.

my big plan so far is to just tell my son(s) to lemme know when he wants to start looking at porn so i can show him the correct kind of porn to configure his brain the way porn configured my brain (i was configured correctly by the grace of god considering my parents were really mean people--but many Anon Babble users have very obviously been permanently misconfigured by porn and their lives are permanently ruined--for example: a tranny can never actually be a woman so his life is automatically ruined by having an impossible desire).

it's not actually that hard to get what you're specifically describing unless you're ugly and/or poor. the devil is in all the other details.

i understand how you feel more than you think i do. the only thing i have to hold onto is that my fiance and i were each others' first without a condom. i'm certain she wasn't lying because i remember the look of shock on her face when she felt my semen hit her cervix. she said she never felt anything like that from sex with a condom and she came when it hit her so that experience really bound us together. it's something neither of us could ever have again with someone new.

I'm 28 and quickly approaching wizardom. I was weirdly okay until I was 26. Like, I would have moments where I was like "Wait, wtf am I doing, I'm 21 and never been on a date", before going back to coping.

I don't know why, but I saw the writing on the wall from a very young age that I was unlovable. There was no blackpill or anything back then, or at least in a way that was accessible to me.

I'm not very happy with my situation to be quite honest. I recently had a phase were it just felt I have completely fumbled everything, but the more I looked back the more I realise there was actually nothing there. No one showed interest, people avoided me, I would try to fit in and I would just get ignored. I'm now just a bitter loser and it has become exceedingly obvious that I will die alone.

It's funny seeing people here complaining about wanting a virgin gf, tattooless, skinny, etc. Those poor volcels just don't realise how truly bad it gets.

yes there are

Then why do they all seem the same to me?

unless you're ugly and/or poor

Like Yogi Berra said, two outta two ain't bad.

I'm at the point now where the reality of me going the rest of my life without love has set in and I'm fine with it.

I hope to reach this level of zen one day.

LARP LARP LARP

Nobody unironically thinks like you do. Nobody thinks showing their son porn will configure his brain correctly. Nobody thinks women can actually feel cum hit their cervix. If you unironically do then I'm sorry about your sub 90 IQ, and you should consider the rope.

so i can show him the correct kind of porn

I look forward to seeing you on To Catch A Predator as one of the predators.

why do you think i'm here?

I really don't care, but I'm not gonna help you. Go find yourself a different guinea pig.

im a mid dude facially, but i dress expensive and make above average salary in my country, and i get fucking DESTROYED in speed dating events -- i literally get either 0 or 1 like from women (99% rejection rate). even fat hags don't want me.

are you in your 30s now

I am in 30s and that's old.
Like I today was riding subway and I saw woman in 30s very good looking (plastered with make up, painted face but whatever), going to club weekend fun I suppose, I and can't connect with her at all. Idea that I hook up with her? I feel Im trying to fuck my mom, and I am repulsed at guts level. I permanently stuck in my highschool graduation when I fell off and cant move forward. And I don't have recources to darte 20 years old (I nknow guy of age who did it, but am not him at all, no moneys , dating experience etc and it was 10y ears ago). I want 18-20 years old girl and it's complete fantasy for me, even more it would backfire hard on me if I try to chase 20 years old girls at my age.

I chose to be an ugly manlet? Thanks, more proof that normie scumbags have no empathy

They know deep down it's false, they just enjoy shitting on losers and getting them riled up.

It makes me laugh how they react to the fact that someone is not like them, does not have friends, relationships, a girlfriend, is this also feigned?

first was online girl i loved since kids from a game i played

second was a shy girl my highschool friends set me up with because i didnt have gf and everyone needs a gf, went on a couple dates and kissed but nothing else and then broke up cuz she was annoying and then she got the same friends to egg my house in retaliation and scream about what i missed

third a black girl i met at friends college who was nice and we made out and such but eventually her family was hating on the whiteboy and her life and gang seemed dangerous so i left

fourth, rich asian girl from a forum because we watched the same anime, that was the one that was most real because she actually moved to my college, we'd makeout and fuck with clothes on, she'd cum and i would barely, and she'd let me suck her big tits and finger her without clothes though. she was lovey then

but after a year she was super possessive/controlling/perfectionist, wanted me to leave my friends and just became a total bitch overall that'd degrade, abuse me and argue about stupid things

maybe i should've left the bros because they didn't stick around anyway

during this time there was another girl at my college who turned out she was into me and I her, but I had #4 at that time so I turned her down. and then later at the time she was confessing to me, she had shaved her head so i wasn't attracted anymore. besides, she cucked me with my roommate.

fifth was the first, my game oneitis, she came back (we'd stayed friends since kids, i talked to her about the gfs), we'd met a few times after i told her i had a crush on her but she always cucked me in person being with someone else, kissing him even though she knew about me, but this time, 3 years ago, she was older and done with chad so called out of the blue during lockdown to say she'd been dreaming about me, and it felt like a movie talking to her and i was so happy, but then

1/2

is this also feigned?

Probably.

2/2

she got cold, left and cheated with barely any reason right before we were to spend a week in a hotel together now we don't even talk anymore

oh and there was a girl in highschool who always sat next to me at lunch and invited me to her pool party i didnt go to because I was talking to #4 and that meant more at the time.

oh and looking back there was also an alt/emo druggie cute girl who i worked with at walgreens that literally told me she wanted to hook up in the backroom but i told her no i dont do random meaningless hookups. we had a sorta workwife dynamic going on she was kinda a manic pixie

and recently I had a crush on my neighbor a hot single female lawyer, and she seemed nice to me but when i moved i left her a note to see if she'd wanna stay in touch and never heard anything back. it is possible the note never made it to her, the door was hard to slide under. i didn't wanna make a move while living next to her in case she said no and we were stuck seeing eachother in the elevator or pool or something

I went to a bar the other day for karaoke and met 2 hotties who drunkenly yelled "You're so nice I love you!" I got their instagram but no idea what to do with it i dont social media..i've messaged, no reply. One of them talked with me a little bit longer to set me up with a guy friend she knew for a possible job that might've been available for me, but i met him and no its not, and now she doesn't respond even as friends to my facebook messages either. I mean what am I supposed to say to keep the convo going

right now at my current deadend job, there are some cute girls who seem more friendly than usual to me, hug me, but I'm old 35 now and a loser so I probably won't bother besides they're coworkers and i want this job

so in a strange way, i've had more experience than most incels, but also never been on a real, cold date. i dont know how i rate, AI says 7-8, the fags in soc said 7, reddit didn't even respond. pretty sure handsome, not chad.

not ugly

You are a scumbag normignit, a hypocritical creature, first you lie that everyone can get it and then you throw it away, add height and a dick to it, scum

Why is normie scum so rotten? this anon really justifies the local hate

my big plan so far is to just tell my son(s) to lemme know when he wants to start looking at porn so i can show him the correct kind of porn to configure his brain the way porn configured my brain

You are an idiot.
Helicopter parenting is what makes incels.
Don't want your son end as incel?
1. Push to invite girls to his birthdays parties when he has no autonomy (prior 13-15 puberty age.
2.. Give him partial freedom when he hits puberty, pocket money, get the fuck out from the house on weekends and let him invite whoever he likes (no pushes who he invite, just force him clear mess after). Yep it's sacrifice, go take you wife to movies or something, and set time of fun for your sun clear. NEVER disrespect it. He may have first kiss when you are out, you DON'T want to barge in the middle of this, you don't understand how traumatizing can it be.

Never Ever question his decisions about circles and friends. If your want to force things force it about clearing his room and paying him for school grades. NEVER I repeat NEVER touch his private life.
3. Buy him a car at 16 if it's America.

There's better things than sex you know that

Maybe. I cant compare i didn't have sex.
How can I compare to I thing I have no a clue about?
I had moments. Was it better then sex? I don't know and I can't know.

Are.you lying? It can be. One thing I realized I was like by other people all my life and I made mistake believing them

yeah like having principles and not betabuxxing

my highschool friends set me up with because i didnt have gf and everyone needs a gf

This happened to me once but I just ignored the message and we never talked about it in person again.

it wasn't a message they literally pushed us together at a party and were like 'now kish' and i was like ok fine we'll go out on a date or two and we saw happy feet

well if i'm an idiot then you are too, since i actually planned to do basically everything you're describing. like i said: i come here for research purposes. i've been here since i graduated middle school in like 2010

based on everything i've seen on this website and what my own teenage years were like i'm going to do everything i can to help my future sons get laid.

at age 30 and based on my experience in this relationship, i'm very certain that this matters even more than stuff like being really sure what career path you want to travel down.

people can reproduce without even being productive members of society. we're all here because people before us chose to have children (or had sex and wound up with them).

so you're both ugly and poor? if that's true then i'm sorry. that's unfortunate. but it is what it is. however, that isn't applicable to everyone's situation.

it's my kid, retard. parents need to talk to their kids about sexuality. it's normal.

i didn't lie. the bottom end of the male population is destined not to reproduce. that's the purpose of sexual dimorphism. males vary widely. females vary narrowly. the lowest-end males are continuously cut off, because the highest-end males get multiple females. this is just evolution. natural selection.

This never happened to me. Never got invited to a house party. There was one night I went out with some friends, that's about it.

The Talk is normal. Showing your son video examples of what to do or not is not normal.

Yeah I'm 29. I feel like it was already over by 23 or so. Of course that was around the time covid hit which definitively killed any hope I still had.

you could totally make a comeback. stop being a pussy. just keep working at your decent job until you're in a better position and go from there.