Does Oral add to body count?

a man will come up to you and tell you "your girlfriend sucked me off and i used her mouth for my pleasure, then i came and she swallowed it and licked up the rest as well as polished my balls"
this man could be anyone, a nigger, a political enemy, a guy who used to bully you, a crackhead etc
do you want to go through such a thing? no you should value yourself and not experiencing having a whore as a girlfriend.
even if no one ever brings up using your girlfriend's body for their own pleasure, they will still think about it and be smug on the inside, laughing at you (at how much of an oblivious cuck you are)
youre being affectionate with her, cuddling her, kissing her, going on dates with her, but he used her body and discarded her, you will forever taste his sloppy seconds when you kiss her

they will still think about it and be smug on the inside

think about it when they meet you irl* or see you in public with her
or see your posts when they look up her ig, where youre hugging her

even if no one ever brings up using your girlfriend's body for their own pleasure, they will still think about it and be smug on the inside

Yeah, I lost count of how many times I saw guys getting mocked behind their backs because his wife was a know used goods
One guy that I know married one of those and his friends warned him yet he insisted on it. Eventually she cheated on him and he still had a kid with her, idk if he knows about the cheating though

thats how it is in this world man, it puts me off of females completely desu

My neighbors daughter is likely not his, he is a long haul trucker and his wife had some other guy coming to visit right around the time she got pregnant, lol.

Do the right thing and tell him

My rare take: Men don't have virginity. it is for women only. Saying a man has virginity sounds as weird as a woman saying "I fucked a man". This can't happen either unless she equips a dildo.

So wtf do I do? My wife just fucking lied. I didn't find out she was a cocksucker untill later.
You know what's worse? Now she still insists she was a virgin untill me, but keeps dropping little stories that "don't count."
Fml.

Nta. You sound like you have the stomach to keep being with her. You do you. I would get divorced.

It sucks bro.
I wish she was just fucking honest.
Bht every time she gets upset

BABE! You wrre my first! Its so upsetting that you don't trust ne!

Also her

my ex put like, the tip in, but that doesnt count

Also, if you agree with her that BJ isn't sex, what is to stop her to take this a green light to give further BJs. After all, you both agree that BJ is not cheating, right anon?

So wtf do I do? My wife just fucking lied.

beggars cant be choosers bro, if youre ugly and short (incel) you gotta take what you can get
i doubt you'll find many virgin girls past the age of 16 today
even by 20 they have a body count of like 30

You know what's worse? Now she still insists she was a virgin untill me, but keeps dropping little stories that "don't count."

dont ask questions to which answers you dont wanna hear, ignorance is bliss
unironically to be in a relationship today you have to be a cuck, this why im volcel

you gotta take what you can get

this is the sort of attitude that enables women to become whores. they know they will get a beta provider no matter their body count was.
You are part of the problem.

this is the sort of attitude that enables women to become whores. they know they will get a beta provider no matter their body count was.

and what do you suggest instead?
theres literally no virgins, and you cant unfuck someone
im not saying whores are better than virgins, im just trying to be realistic
especially if youre an incel, any girl is better than no girl or youre a volcel

why does she keep mentioning her previous relationships? are you asking her about it?

She scammed him into marriage by claiming she is a virgin and she is now gaslighting & guilt tripping him.
And she probably lowkey wants his OK to give more BJs to strangers while staying married lol.

claiming she is a virgin

she is one, but I do agree that he should've been told about her sexual encounters before marriage

And she probably lowkey wants his OK to give more BJs to strangers while staying married lol.

why would she want to do that? giving blowjobs is disgusting and probably the worst "normal" sexual act

volcel

In a global scale, men should stop getting married to whores. Fucking and dumping them is fine since that's what they do with other men too. But just don't commit. Let women face the consequences of their actions and be left single and unwanted en masse.

yes yes it would be ideal and prefect is chads stopped fucking all the sub7 women and women stopped being hypergamous and the average man stopped being a simp that inflates women's egos
but we dont live in an ideal world

Yeah. Women never tell you the whole truth. With women you ALWAYS verify. Thats why we need a service that checks their past and online presence. Name it HOEFAX.

chads stopped fucking all the sub7 women >women stopped being hypergamous

the average man stopped being a simp that inflates women's egos

Or, you can let all of these continue but just don't commit to whores. Stop marrying them.

Or, you can let all of these continue but just don't commit to whores. Stop marrying them.

ok so your magic solution is stop marrying women and keep allowing chad to deflower said women ruining it for the next guy who could have married her as a virgin?
what solution even is this you fucking retard?
letting men have free reign over women? you realize that just creates the same situation we have today where most men are virgins and only chads get pussy
youre so fucking retarded, must be one of those redpill cucks

You said it yourself, these are already happening. These degenerate shit are not happening because I let them or want them to happen, you imbecile. What I suggested is something within your control. Holy shit what a moron. Are you like 15?

That's the thing.
I am not an incel type. I am a rich fit guy.
I don't struggle with female attention.
I struggle because I am idealistically loyal.

What I suggested is something within your control.

and what does it accomplish is what im asking you dumb fucking retard
"yeah it would be great if men just stopped getting married to whores and instead stayed volcel forever!"
ok so fucking what retard? these women would still fuck chad only even if they didnt find a betabuxx

I am a rich fit guy

but are you tall and attractive facially? the two things that actually matter

I struggle because I am idealistically loyal.

you struggle because you keep asking about your wife's past and you keep allowing her to talk about her sexual past instead of telling her to shut the fuck up, tell her it makes you self conscious and to stop bringing it up
the only reason she keeps bringing up how her ex used to fuck her and put the tip in is because shes conditioning you to become a cuck, she wants an open relationship because "she didnt get enough time to have fun before settling down" and keeps bringing it up to make you aroused by it and more open to the idea

I know this is ragebait but most girls lose their virginity during childhood to their dad or stepdad.. studies prove this over and over

Remember when Dante knocked up his boss when he was engaged??? Lmao

but are you tall and attractive facially? the two things that actually matter

why are men so stupid they actually think that is true?

im just looking at women's actions and describing it, thats what the blackpill is
the study of reality by looking at the actual actions of women and the world
society sure seems to believe height and looks matters the most, im just paraphrasing what society thinks is most important

im just looking at women's actions and describing it

you're looking at viral posts and stories. even if on average women prefer taller and more attractive people, it doesn't fucking fully revolve around that?

society sure seems to believe

you mean Anon Babble, lonely people on the internet and shallow women? look outside plenty of average or under average height men are in relationships and not only with unattractive women

you're looking at viral posts and stories.

no im looking at studies and real life examples, if reality shows it then im not gonna doubt reality for some bluepill shit that "sounds nice" but isnt true
check r/blackpillscience

you mean Anon Babble, lonely people on the internet and shallow women?

no i mean normalfags and all women
im not saying looks matters to me because it doesnt, but it does matter to society.

look outside plenty of average or under average height men are in relationships and not only with unattractive women

every time with the anecdotal evidence
"i know this one 5'2 balding indian janitor that slays women bro!!"

if youre ugly and short (incel) you gotta take what you can get

No I don't. I'm alone and if I can't get a virgin wife I'll continue to be alone.

volcel though, as an incel myself being realistic i dont expect a virgin woman since no women are virgins

A girl gave head to 35 guys but only fucked 5 of them. Do you treat her like a 35-body whore or a modest 5er?

Here's the story so we can clear this up.

I met her when she was 19. She claimed to be a virgin.

Then here is every edit that came later:

1. She gave me her virginity (but no hymen)

2. Before me she had five boyfriends it turns out. But did nothing with them.

3. She sucked all five bf's dicks and let one rub his cock on her belly button and cum on her tummy.

4. She only sucked two dicks but the belly button incident did happen.

5. She only sucked one dick, the bellybutton incident did not happen, instead they tried to fuck but he wouldn't fit so he jerked and nutted on her tummy.

6. She has sucked zero dicks but the "he didn't fit" incident did happen

7. She sucked one dick. The "didnt fit" incident never happened. Instead, she got super drunk at a party, brought a random guy back to her tent, got fully naked and ready to fuck, but then passed out. Woke up later not knowing if he fucked her. He was gone. She asked him if he did, he says no, but she will never know for sure so now she feels like a rape victim and the very mention of rape can nake her cry.

How did her mouth ever recover? Does she drool all the time?

GOOOK

don't ask if you don't want the answer

That's a dumb mindset and why we have so many simps

check r/blackpillscience

I'm not going on reddit for proof

im looking at studies and real life examples

do studies say only tall men get pussy? or that 90% of short men are virgins? yes, they show a preference for tall men, and so what? men prefer slim women on average, wouldn't it be stupid to say the only think that matters in a woman for her quest in relationships is her weight?

muh it's different men and women!!!

we're not that different in the end. we might think differently in a few things, but that doesn't make comparisons between the genders obsolete

all women

every single woman out there prefers tall men and exclusively looks for that in a partner? you really believe that? how could a woman ever have individuality in her preferences, or perhaps recognize that height is an uncontrollable factor and not a great thing to seek in a partner!

every time with the anecdotal evidence

yeah, cause studies obviously aren't gonna say "uuh women like all heights the same way! Women like shorter men!"
anecdotes are used when people say things like "ALL WOMEN" like you just did. most women? maybe. All women? You're a retard

I'm not a volcel. I couldn't even get a non-virgin "former" slut if I wanted to. I am a truecel. But even if one did want to date me (they wouldn't) I'd say no.

why would she say something happened and then didn't? is she confused or sum? and why is she telling you all those things?

and do you love her anyways?

tried but it didn't fit

Bro, for me, this is worse than having actually fucked an average guy. My analysis on all of this:

she fucked the big dick guy, they made it fit, he pulled out and nutted on her belly

on another occasion, with a different guy, she got super drunk and "got raped" in the tent. she knows this happened but thinking about it makes her have a panic attack about how much she's lying to you, hence the crying

she had 5 boyfriends, most or all of whom she gave head to

she did not fuck them however, penetrative intercourse was spontaneous events only

therefore the previous 2 encounters are in addition to those 5 guys

My spider sense suggests this is roastoid cope formatted as bait

so ask the question of if she ever got pissed on and ruin your own view of your girl then get divorced since things will never be the same again

I'm not going on reddit for proof

then remain forever ignorant you fucking cuck
literally just one post that went viral today on incels.is out of thousands on incels.is and r/blackpill science combined: incels.is/threads/short-men-are-more-likely-to-be-in-a-cuckold-relationship.750097/

and so what? men prefer slim women on average,

except the average man has literally no standards, but might have "preferences" whereas woman have lots of standards and lots of preferences
height is not a preference for them, its a requirement

you really believe that?

i really believe it, picrel. cope

perhaps recognize that height is an uncontrollable factor

women are not kind or good enough to care about that, they are forever evil and shallow
theyre also misandrists on top of that.
i dont believe humans have empathy in this world, ive never been proven otherwise.
even women that recognize how unfair it is in the dating market as a short and ugly man will say she would never choose to date one, and that its their own problem that she wants nothing to do with, literally seen it online on twitter.

yeah, cause studies obviously aren't gonna say "uuh women like all heights the same way! Women like shorter men!"

youre right they wont, almost all of them will like much taller men, see this study: sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886913000020 which says women prefer their partner 8 inches taller while men prefer 3 inches shorter
ive got a few more screencaps and studies if you want

I couldn't even get a non-virgin "former" slut if I wanted to.

same, but id be fine if i got with one as long as she doesnt cheat even if i accept that a virgin would be better for me as a khhv
things are never ideal unfortunately

I'd say no.

and that makes you volcel

and that makes you volcel

Volcel is if you could get a gf but choose not to.
If you choose not to, but never could have gotten one in the first place anyways, you're an incel.

youre volcel if you wouldnt get with some women if they asked out, simple as
browse blackpill spaces and see for yourself, literally every incel would tell you
"volcel if you wouldnt"

Yeah I love her.
Why is she telling me though? Well when we started dating it was me screening her. Now we'll be watching a podcast ir something, and a comment will "remind her", but she hates HATES talking about her sexuak history.
Be real bro. Is my wife acfually a worthless cumdumped whore?

I hate modernity.

This is an interesting question, really. I would say he is INCEL in reality because the fact is, a woman will never speak to him in his life, let alone show sexual interest. No matter what perspective he takes, he will remain celibate. The "I would turn them down anyway" aspect is simply COPE and not a legitimately "voluntary" state of celibacy.

Be real bro. Is my wife acfually a worthless cumdumped whore?

The best case scenario is that she's counting the 2 guys she got randomly fucked by in her "5 boyfriends" total. She hates talking about her history because she knows if you get one scrap of evidence, or even a consistent story you can fact check out of her, you are going to divorce her immediately.

didnt even realize i got digits damn
anyway, i mean you can in theory be both
im incel cause im short and ugly, but im also volcel cause i gave up on dating and no longer seek a gf

If you couldn't get a gf anyways then it doesn't matter if you want one or not, you're an incel, simple as.

never said you werent an incel but youre still volcel

ive got a few more screencaps and studies if you want

I don't care about studies of what women seem to prefer

i really believe it

it's in those scenarios that anectodal evidence is used - when someone believe every single individual in a group of people has this exact mindset

I was gonna write one here, but in the end it wouldn't change anything. You wouldn't believe me, simply forget about it or believe anything I say is meaningless after.
But humans do have empathy. Women aren't evil and shallow. Women are individuals, just like men, with their own preferences, beliefs and morals. Some will believe height is the most important thing in a partner. Another will not care about such a thing, and will prioritize something else.
You can get someone. You are not doomed because of unattractiveness or height. You can have the happiness of a relationship.

tell her not to talk about anymore when a comment reminds her.
you love her, and she makes you happy, right? isn't it all that should matter?

Be real bro. Is my wife acfually a worthless cumdumped whore?

a stranger on the internet will never know more about your wife's history from those little fragments of information than what you know already. They can only theorize
and you're a piece of shit for thinking women are worthless just because they've been fucked

I don't care about studies of what women seem to prefer

so what do you care about? if you dont even care about studies about reality to see what women want then why are you even debating me on me telling YOU what women want?
i told you i look at women's actions and from there decide what women like in a man, and you get all mad. now that i bring the receipts you cry about it
just accept that you got btfod and leave
see picrel though

But humans do have empathy. Women aren't evil and shallow. Women are individuals, just like men, with their own preferences, beliefs and morals

ive yet to see it with my own eyes, also the variability hypothesis and sexual dimorphism clearly shows theres a difference in biology between men and women, especially in the brain area. it must be a biological reason for why women are so shallow and low iq.

You can get someone. You are not doomed because of unattractiveness or height.

yeah right.

Hey man. That's some grounding wisdom. Thanks.

you're a piece of shit for thinking women are worthless just because they've been fucked

And you lost it. You went from wise to cuckcore

isn't it all that should matter?

Cuck
Only simps and cucks say shit like "only love/happiness matters". They hide behind the word "love" and "happiness" to justify their past actions
There's many murderers that are happy murdering, that means it's okay because they're happy?

Your receipts don't mean anything to me because I'm a woman myself and I know that height isn't a factor I care about at all. I was debating not for new information, but to hopefully let you know that all of this is horseshit meant to demoralize

picrel

of course women that use dating apps are shallow

Your receipts don't mean anything to me because I'm a woman myself and I know that height isn't a factor I care about at all

this is what i mean, that is an ANECDOTAL OUTLIER, it does not prove anything about the overall sentiment in society and polling shows that

but to hopefully let you know that all of this is horseshit meant to demoralize

its not meant to demoralize, its meant to show us the truth and if the truth (of not being picked and instead hated) ends up unintentionally demoralizing you then thats just how it goes

of course women that use dating apps are shallow

thats majority of women today
see picrel

And you lost it. You went from wise to cuckcore

a girl having had two cocks isn't worthless. maybe worth less than a virgin, but not worthless
6+ is close to worthless territory though, and 10+ is def worthless
it's cuz it is happiness that matters the most? would you really throw away a perfect, happy relationship just because a woman has had a cock or two? I'd rather have that than a mentally ill virgin woman that constantly gaslights me and makes me feel bad.

There's many murderers that are happy murdering, that means it's okay because they're happy?

not a great comparison, because if a girl is happy fucking many guys at once that doesn't mean it's okay to do it while in a relationship. and murdering is far from the same as having sex

picrel

that's just online, not dating apps. online counts Anon Babble

ANECDOTAL OUTLIER

I wouldn't call myself an outlier. But it is anectodal. Anyways, I was mostly mad about you saying "ALL WOMEN LIKE THIS SPECIFIC THING!" switch it to most or majority and that can't be rebutted

Lol you are so wrong its nuts.

is your picrel supposed to prove anything? women aren't water in sinks
if you fuck her does she becomes dirty water? you become a bodycount. gr8 job dirtying a girl up, nd you're gonna fuck around in your own mess?

that's just online, not dating apps. online counts Anon Babble

so you dont think dating apps the majority of that online sector? you think its mostly Anon Babble or instagram lol?
sounds like youre trying to convince yourself

I wouldn't call myself an outlier.

statistics shows that you are one
even if you say that you dont care about height, i gotta ask how tall were your ex boyfriends or current boyfriend? and dont lie

I was mostly mad about you saying "ALL WOMEN LIKE THIS SPECIFIC THING!" switch it to most or majority and that can't be rebutted

but why cant it be all? whats the difference between 99% and 100%? the 1% is too minor to count, the only time women lower their standards is when theyre looking for a long term relationship (betabuxx) after slutting it out. and thats when looks and height becomes less important but money becomes more important

so you dont think dating apps the majority of that online sector? you think its mostly Anon Babble or instagram lol?

I don't think anything, it was just that it's possible that perhaps 30% of it is not dating apps and that's a pretty big percentage. I genuinely have no idea how much of it is dating apps or not

how tall were your ex boyfriends or current boyfriend? and dont lie

my ex was above average, around 5'10"-11", and my current boyfriend is 5'5"-6", and no I did not prefer my ex

but why cant it be all? whats the difference between 99% and 100%? the 1% is too minor to count

I don't think it's 99% of women, else a LOT more short/ugly men would be single. but let's say it is 99%. you still have to count that 1%, you can't ignore it. that's still one person out of a 100, that's a lot of people
less than 1% of people are transgender apparently, does that mean that's too little and we can say that no one is transgender? they're too minor to count afterall

I won't be nean. I am nta you have been arguing with.

The meme attempts to explain the psychological perception of women in healthy males.

The woman is the sink. When she fucks a guy, to all men but the guy she fucked, a splash of shit water has been added to the sink.
This stacks.

The question is, would you rather use a sink with or without shit water?

This is evolutionary hard-wiring. So long as women want men, they have to accept that this is how they are wired.

There are some men who will use a sink with shit water in it. But the self-respecting will not.

If a woman is a sink with shit water, she must accept she is only worth the men that would use a sink with shit water.

She is not a clean sink and does not deserve the men that would use a clean sink. Nor does she deserve to be treated like a clean sink.

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Do you really?

what are you asking? originar bee

If youre a random guy, you need to show a woman something that makes you unique, you hold no value over a taller guy

either way, the fact that most relationships are formed nowadays from online instead of in real life and hookups have possibly even higher percentage of online proves that you cant just deny everything online as being not reality
online is reality nowadays, even things you see on social media are real life sentiment, not just some online bullshit

and my current boyfriend

and how tall are you? either way its an outlier

else a LOT more short/ugly men would be single

most sub5s ARE single you can see the stats yourself see picrel, more than half of men 18 to 29 are single, while older males managed to become betabuxx for a woman who finally settled down
all these young women are dating the same few young chads, its polygyny but online
all these women are convinced the chad has only one woman, meanwhile hes dating 11 of them, just like harry sisson who was exposed for dming 11 different girls at the same time all while having a girlfriend x.com/SarahisCensored/status/1902048956567244809

i bet both of your partners were attractive
if youre short the only way you can save your chances at dating is if youre attractive like damian kater whos 5 foot 7 but still attractive

You know, I never assumed that was part of it but now that I think about it. It's really putting a different light on it. Is her blowjob ratio like lower than her fuck ratio, did she find a balance point, is it like 1:1 or better.

I am a gentlemen to some extent I'm not gonna tell you I ate some girls pussy. I don't kiss and tell like that. I mean when you put it that way, I'm gonna start brushing my teeth again, tommorrow. Or something along those lines fuck off mum I'll get to it.

just like harry sisson who was exposed for dming 11 different girls at the same time all while having a girlfriend

now you're the one using anectodal evidence/one time events. most women aren't all dating the same guy I'm pretty sure

and how tall are you? either way its an outlier

i am not an outlier, and I'm shorter than the average woman but not freakishly short.

i bet both of your partners were attractive

I find(ound) them attractive at least, but apparently my ex is ugly (my family dissed him after things ended). his face was mostly really asymmetrical but I never really looked at objective beauty standards, I always looked at it subjectively and only saw the positives.

now you're the one using anectodal evidence/one time events

nah im just extrapolating based on what i know to theorize why so many young men are single, the theory is that most young women are dating the same few young chads and that its easily done once you account online dating.
i hear even in black circles the attractive and tell men have multiple "baby mamas"

i am not an outlier

you are an outlier in that you are fine with a short man, when statistics show that most women are not. even if you dont think so

his face was mostly really asymmetrical but I never really looked at objective beauty standards, I always looked at it subjectively and only saw the positives.

that proves that taller men dont have to be as attractive and that shorter men have to be more attractive to make up for their height
would you date your boyfriend if he was the same height but just as ugly as your ex? assuming everything else remained the same? i assume not

I do think my bf is more attractive than my ex, but i would date him even if he had the same attractiveness as my ex (I didn't even think he was ugly). Even if he was objectively very ugly, I would still date him. I'm not dating him because of what he's looking like. And he has some facial "objective" flaws too, I just ignore them or think it's pretty anyways (like he has some acne)

thats fine i respect it, if youre telling the truth i do wish most women (or most humanity) was like you. but youre still an outlier.

well, even if I was an outlier, I wouldnt be the only one so there's still hope for you or anyone else who is "objectively less desirable"

so there's still hope for you

that might be technically correct for me as an individual, even if its shitty advice "just get lucky and find the 1 girl out of billions after years of searching", but the problem is it falls apart once you factor in other short and ugly males, the millions of them cant just get lucky
its like saying "well everyone of us should just get rich!", if everyone is rich then no one is and there isnt even enough money in the world.
just like how if everyone is lucky then no one is.
we cant all be lucky, it might be possible for me alone to get lucky but its bad advice to the rest of the guys, there isnt really any type of strategy for all of them to get a gf. thats why i say its best for them (us) to give up.
the problem is just that most women do not want to get with their looksmatch, and its impossible to control other people to do what they dont want, so the only thing you can do is give up.
heres an even more blackpilling fact:
theres 107 males born for every 100 females (this is because the y chromosome has less information, and thus y chromosome sperm is less heavy which means it wins the race to the x chromosome egg more often), and when you look at the population pyramid theres millions more males than there are females between ages 0-64. populationpyramid.net/united-states-of-america/2023/ it only changes after 65 when women start outnumbering men due to men dying.

but this statistic itself shows that many excess males will be single as there simply arent enough women for them all to be in relationships, there is no solution to this
we can start mandating ivf for all births so we (the state) can balance the male-female births so that its truly 50-50 by mandating female embyro's to some parents instead of males ones, but theres nothing we can do for the current excess males that are born.
the only thing is for them to date women aged 65-99
this pyramid is even worse populationpyramid.net/china/2024/