Which woman would you pick?

I just want a vagina to pit my penis i to

i make decent money so i'd take over the finances entirely and let her do whatever she wants with her life.

in a woman that are important to have*

Any man who is saying A is a lying piece of shit.

Girl B is obviously the better choice.

Im 25, I make 1.3M USD a year. I make this money because I have no choice. No one is going to take care of me.

If a girl who was making 100k came up to me and told me to be a trophy while she goes out and works. I would shut down my business immediately.

A girl who would financial support me is my dream, but its just a dream.

Which one and why

B, i dont want to have stupid children

Girl B but can she stay with someone like me

You think the several men who said they would pick A in this thread are lying? Not judging, I am just observing.

I make 1.3M USD a year

Come on, really?

That's why it's a dream, anon. Women psychologically can't deal with having a man who is perceived as inferior to her. A relationship like that is doomed to fail.

The small town girl is a dying breed.

Would you be willing to pay bills and support your NEET small town girl financially though?

If given the choice, 100% of men would rather be financially provided for then provide for a woman. Im telling you. 100%

I run a ECOM CRO agency.

Depends on how she looks
If she's ugly I would definitely choose the rich one because at least she can have surgery to become hot
I guess if she's hot I could choose either but the rich girl will have more money to stay hot for longer so the hot rich one

They have the same sexual history

So none of them since they are both sluts.

1.3M USD a year

calls others lying pieces of shit

Women psychologically can't deal with having a man who is perceived as inferior to her

This is why I have to work. I remember having a conversation with my sister who is a plastic surgery resident. I told her she will most likely make more than any man shes with and if shes ok with her working and him staying at home. The disgust she had on her face at that suggestion was unreal.

I know a lot of guys younger than me who make way more than me. Its kinda depressing.

If she is working part time at a diner or something, I think we could make it work. I could afford to pay all the bills and rent. Her income would be enough to do fun things. It would still be the broke life tho. Which I'm fine with.

Girl B is the better choice objectively

I've dated B, except that she was not self-made, but inheritance rich, and didn't particularly want to financially support me because woman. The

likes to charge forward in life

is the issue with this, because she wants to do shit that is often very different from what I want to do, notably wants to travel non-stop. So I'd easily pick A over B, because in reality I both don't get money and have to put up with her shit constantly. Even if she was somehow magically willing to support me, it's still moderately annoying.

She will never have any time for you and her life will be completely centered around her career. Let's be real

A and I wont explain why. Its pretty obvious B is retarded

She will never have any time for you and her life will be completely centered around her career. Let's be real

So I get to stay at home and shitpost? I fail to see the problem.

As long as I get Alimony in a divorce I win.

Are you gonna help A to pay her bills?

If you're together, those will be your bills as well, not just hers.
You have a weird way of thinking.

Is it? If you work and she's just at home, would you consider paying for her food and all "your" bills if she doesn't contribute or very little?

It doesn't matter as long she's a virgin. That's like asking if you prefer to drink water or breath oxygen

Who wouldn't? You'd have to be a huge miser or poorfag to try to split bills with a NEET girlfriend. Do some housework, cook here and there, have sex, that's about all that a normal man would expect of a stay at home gf/wife.

I don't actually give a shit. But if I had to pick, then probably Girl A, because she could be a different person 20 years from now.
Avoiding girl B is very selfish of me, because I just don't want to stress myself with work, I just don't want to do whatever it takes to get to new level. I don't want to work 80 hours a week at the moment. I just want to chill. I want a lazy job that is enough for a small living and groceries. I don't want money, I don't want power, I don't want to hustle, I don't want to strain myself, I don't want to achieve.
If I wanted, I would've done it without the Girl B constantly nagging me to strive to reach my full potential and whatever bullshit...

No one is going to take care of me.

Are you retarded? Just have 10M in the bank and stop working. You will not get income taxed if you don't have an income and you can live comfortably with the interest rate of your money(though the interest will be taxed, but not the principal)
There's better opinions but if you're lazy that's an easy way out and you'll still will get 20k+ per month after taxes

The way I understand it, when a man and a woman are living together they share their burdens and their joy.
What's the point of being together if you separate everything.
Just remain single.

B because I'm a NEET. Sorry, sweaty! There can only be one...

Are you retarded? Just have 10M in the bank and stop working

What do you think im doing retard. Do you think I don't know that?

Question, how do you think you get 10M in the bank?

After taxes, Its still going to take me more than 10 years to get to the point of not having to work.

Im goal is to be done with working by the time my kids start going to school.

But I still need to work for like 70 hours a week for a decade straight. I've still lost my entire youth in the pursuit of not having to work. Its not like I won.

There could have been an alternate universe where I was a woman and fucked around until I was 28 then married some nice betabux.

Yes I will help pay her bills anything to not have some dumb cunt like B

Im capable and wont complain. Girls like B work when a guy like me would be happy so save girl A so that means girl A is smarter than girl B. Girl B is annoying

neither because i hate women and having to spend most of my time with one sounds like hell

Another thing, half of my retirement plan is propagated on the fact that the US keeps growing at the rate it has for the past 100 years (It wont).

Also, the 4% rule is based on a 20/30 year drawdown. If I retire at 35, im going to be drawing down for like 50 fucking years, so my withdraw rate is going to be lower.

In reality, I'll probably be able to withdraw like 2.5% of my total investments and not 4%. Or I would need all my investments in me mainly in cash flowing multifamily real estate, which is basically a full time job.

Im might just buy a huge annuity or something.

Faggot maggot. Women are the only important thing in this world besides money.

A. I don't care about her job aand if she was willing to have several kids with me and take care of house then I'd be fine with her dropping job completely. Her looking for directions and help would also make me feel useful and I'd be happy making her happy. I wouldn't trust B to not dump me since women generally want someone better than them, especially when it comes to finances. Why would I risk such important thing as marriage and put it on a whim of woman with how often women dump men because of this kind of stuff?

If EVERYTHING ELSE is equal between those 2 women, then I would take the wealthy girl because why not. But realistically relationships don't happen in a vacuum, everyone is different on many things, and attraction can't really be controlled.

Im even better because I dont care about some traditionalist christcuck fantasy like having kids and I'd still take A and not expect things from her like you. I would not take B in a million years

A, need a girl who breaks eye contact and blushes when I compliment her.

Will financially support you

The majority of women with money wouldn't do that so while this is a cool thought exercise, it doesn't really matter irl. In the same vein, I shall fantasize about where I'd prefer to live, monaco or tahiti.

I'm not even religious. Having kids is simply like one of few, and main reason to get married. What else do you need marriage for besides maybe tax break? I don't need government or church approval for doing most of stuff with other people.

Getting married for the tax break is fine. I wouldn't have kids unless I was doing really well financially these days. Not having kids is a huge relief. The average American makes 60k so if together you both bring in 120k a year with no kids you actually have a lot of money to spend. Making over 100k a year is pointless unless you want kids or a Lamborghini instead. Its people who are religious that work in a barn in poverty that have 3 kids and then live like shit. Also niggers pay child support to baby mamas that get massive checks for having 12 kids they ignore to go sell food stamps for weed and liquor.

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Only poorfags, jews and soulless people care about money. I'm not even religious and you're pathetic

Without kids there is not much point in life besides hedonism. Almost nothing you do matters because it's going to end with you. Killing yourself now would not make any difference as the result would be exactly the same. Having kids makes your actions matter more because they are going to affect someone who is going to inherit your posessions and potentially continue whatever you were doing. Your unique set of skills and knowledge can be kind of preserved by being passed to unique individual based on you and your wife. It's a special thing in its uniqueness and relation to you. Also you might find it stupid but I find beauty in idea of grand project of maintaining line through centuries, where each generation tried to do their part and continue it. It's like unspoken agreement and cooperation where everyone kind of know what they think, and they put trust in each other. Something that transcends physical. And it doesn't go against nature. People are looking for some higher purpose in religions, when we have natural purpose at hand's reach, and admiration for it also resonates with us as we are amazed and inspired by grand projects, for example in form of architecture. It's like combination of nature and art.
Also you overestimate cost of having kids. If you want to live in luxury like whatever shit is fed to you by media then sure. But not everyone has such ambtions. Fucking amish live like they were in previous century or even earlier and they seem to live happier lives. I wouldn't go as far as them in rejection of technology, but I do find joy and peace in simple things which often do not require money. Thanks to this I could actually buy a flat with just cash and no mortgage in this shitty housing market despite earning kind of average wage. I simply don't spend much.

Is that why Jews are better than you at everything?

I generally try to keep a neutral or a positivity level unless I get pissed. And your bullshit pissed me off. It's not just the obvious braindead normie owner propaganda, it's the fucking nerve to post this bullshit again on this board, that pisses me off the most. And general stupidity of the ideas too, plus I hate lies. You're not telling the truth, do you?

Almost nothing you do matters because it's going to end with you.

this is the universal rule that applies to every single existence regardless of children.

Having kids makes your actions matter more because they are going

It doesn't, because the universe doesn't give a shit and is finite. If you're going to come at me with your hypothetical future bullshit, assuming the children won't be killed off by cancer or a drunk driver asshole before they reach maturity, then fucking be honest and admit, that life doesn't fucking matter. Existence doesn't matter. Maybe if the span of life was equal to the duration of the universe, we'd have another argument, but 100 years don't fucking matter. Everybody here will be forgotten or known as anonymous in 200 years from now.
TL;DR: Your point is mute because you're being completely dishonest about the future itself, not to mention all of the puny human problems, like overpopulation. Building your bullshit on the false premises is simple stupid propaganda, that only retards can't see through.

The only point of kids is to bring childhood back and witness youth again. The proper way is having kids, but manchildren will buy toys and go to amusement parks as full grown adults instead of having kids. Poorfag mutts will cope its about having someone to take care of them when they get old but having enough money at old age from investing should make that unnecessary. Christcucks cope that we have life after death so if we can witness the world after death and see our children in heaven its infinitely meaningful but thats bullshit. When we die, we die. So if we have descendants that are good, bad, or none, it wont matter because we wont be here. Hedonism is just about enjoying your life while it last, falling in love, building good relationships with friends, having hobbies, having a life. Instead of changing diapers and screaming babies. Conservatives choose to not like things for literally no reason just to live in a cabin and be "trad" extremely boring.

Why don't you kill yourself then? I'll tell you why. Firstly, you have self-preservation instinct, like most living things. If you were about to die you would get anxious, maybe start to panic and your brain would most likely trigger survival response. Secondly, because you probably enjoy things. It might be due to pure hedonism and abusing your naural circuits responsible for chrmistry that produces good feels, or it might be due to some "higher" form of fun, like games, art etc. You might enjoy music, stories or aesthetics. In that sense inspiration from art or good story doesn't differ from inspiration of grand project of joint effort in preserving line. Just like games are enjoyable because they are often competitive, it's fun to think about your line competing with lines of other people and seeing whose line will last the longest. From outside perspective life does not matter, yes. Just like for me life of a nigger in africa does not matter. Life matters only from perspective of the living. And that's enough to justify it. It's not like you have much choice with self-preservation instincts being very likely to deprieve you of your your illusion of free will. I simply trust the nature and am willing to go along with it because every achievement humans made wasn't in spite of nature, but by aligning ourselves with it, learning its laws and exploiting them. We don't fly because we defy gravity. We fly because we learned patterns, called them laws of physics and mastered aerodynamics.

extremely boring.

I disagree. I live very stable life consisting of routine and I'm fine with it. But I'm also a sperg. As I've said, I find fun and pleasure in simple things like warmth of sun on skin, fuckloads of material to watch on the internet, sex and hugs, tasty, simple meal made of potatoes, eggs and bread, video games, satisfaction from some rare handiwork done well when there is need for it etc.

The 2nd one because I don't want to work.

Depends which one is less of a nagging bitch. I wouldn't mind B as long as she isn't intolerable.

Why don't you kill yourself then?

cause I'm pussy and don't live in the U.S. Have no easy access to a very quick and secure method, that requires little research, liek a double barrel shotgun would.

you have self-preservation instinct

yeah, to some extent, some of it. But that is biological self bias that has fuck all to do with rationality and reality. it is also quite weak. If it was super strong in humans, nobody would ever commit seppuku.

Life matters only from perspective of the living. And that's enough to justify it.

So just self-bias. Which is also weak, esp. if one is a misanthrope.

We fly because we learned patterns, called them laws of physics and mastered aerodynamics.

That's all great, but we don't live in the future world I'd like to live in, like sex robots, full automation, and, and, and, etc.. and I'm too retarded, weak, and unskilled myself to be a great scientists or a great engineer and make it happen anyway.
Also, I don't think that existing for a limited amount of time has any correlation with the value. To be precise those ideas are just made up to make some people make more comfortable, but I don't accept them as satisfactory answers. Self-bullshitting about every waking moment being so precious and unique because it's me and stuff is not my cup of tea at all.
TL;DR: The result will be the same regardless. Whether suicide or natural causes it won't factually matter in two days and esp. not in 200 years from now.

Also one more thing: you seem to misunderstand how religion works. It doesn't matter whether it's bullshit or not. Belief by definition is taking something without proof as if it was truth. Religions serve multiple practical purposes. Ranging from basic stuff like rituals bonding people together for better cooperation, to much less intuitive ones, like bullshitting yourself into better performance. Think of greek gods: their faith is long outdated and no one believes it seriously. That's because their gods were trying to explain natural phenomens which we learned how they work. Back then Poseidon was responsible for storms. Today we know about workings of oceans and weather so it makes no sense to put Poseidon in charge there. Current biggest religions simply moved goalpost to pretty clever place: origin of everything. No matter how far you reach with science, you will always be able to ask what was before. Even if we somehow found out world is a loop, you could still ask where does the loop come from, how did it come into existence? Trusth is, you don't know. Just like people did not know how oceans worked. But making sacrifice to Poseidon and bullshitting yourself that this would please him and thus make your fishing trip safer would trick you into taking risk and actually doing something with your life. Those who did not risk did not get fish, or would get less of them because they competed with other people picking safety. Those who risk over time get more competent in handling risk and achieve more, being able to afford more kids, gain power etc. Thats why all civilization we know of had religions: societies with religions simply outcompeted societies without ones. Religions also make sacrifice a virtue. And what is deprieving yourself of some hedonism to take responsibility for your kids if not sacrifice?
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And so, I don't believe in any traditional religion. I am incapable of doing so knowing what I know, or at least believing it's true because it makes most sense and puzzles matching each other. Trying to knowingly bullshit myself simply feels cringeworthy. But seeing utility of religion I do not ridicule it. In fact, I think it might be inevitable and I am willing to respect it. Maybe it is true that humans have religious instinct, and in absence of gods, they pick other stuff to fill the gap. Like "trust the experts/science" during covid circus, forgetting, or never knowing that blind trust is against foundation of science, which is scientific method. Those sheep have treated media and experts as prophets and gods despite the fact that science is merely search for patterns with attempt to codify them. And since it's a search, it often leads to dead ends where you have to go back and try another route. Think of classical physics working only to certain point and catastrophe in ultraviolet. Or lobotomy. Or trannies.
Of course, knowing that, it would be naive to think I am exception. And when I thought about it, I noticed I indeed have picked an idol to fill the gap, and that idol is nature. I tend to personify it and I trust it. I trust that what is natural is good and we should live as one with nature, taking from it and giving back, like every other living thing. Cut trees but also plant them. Kill but also preserve life from exitnction. Don't dismiss your instincts and enjoy what your brain makes enjoyable. If it's common among mammals to enjoy touch, like cats being patted or scratched, or pups sleeping curled together, why can't you enjoy it as a mammal? Don't think it's beneath you or silly. For me nature is just set of laws and mechanics of this world. They don't care about you, they just are and govern this world. And I find them fine and I trust them. Personifying it as mother nature only adds it poetic tonne and makes it easier to resonate with.

Have no easy access to a very quick and secure method

Trains, tall buldings or bridges aren't exclusively US things and are quite high on success probability ranking. It's just excuse. Yes, you are pussy. Most living things are. And it's fine, we were made to be that way because life is struggle against entropy that aims to equalize all energy, bringing it down to levels unable to sustain life in the form we know.

If it was super strong in humans, nobody would ever commit seppuku.

Kind of. I wish we could study people mid their fall from skyscrappers, or when they are writhing in pain when meds and alcohol kick in. Maybe then we could truly know if humans really overpower this, or instincts win in the end. Most likely, as in most cases, you have whole spectrum of strength of "will" with gaussian distribution, making most people having average strength of will, few people absoutely panicking, and few people being able to burn calmly like buddhist monks.

So just self-bias. Which is also weak, esp. if one is a misanthrope.

Yet, it's enough to justify it for most people to keep living. Assuming you are misanthrope, are you actually content and happy with your life? I doubt since calling yourself pussy for not being strong enough to commit suicide implies there is some kind of value in killing yourself, meaning suicide is desired.

That's all great, but we don't live in the future world I'd like to live in

Because we're just thrown in into arena of nature. Life isn't wishing list. It's a struggle. You get only what you achieve in whatever way you pick. It's not a game where you can pick scenario, start over etc. It's a poker where you get random hand and you have to make the best use of it. And it's what makes games actually interesting. If you know the outcome and are basically god, being able to do everything, change everything without any constraints, where is the fun? Where is satisfaction from problem solving? Which is why I have no ideals and desires

Trying to knowingly bullshit myself simply feels cringeworthy.

Right, because

Belief by definition is taking something without proof as if it was truth.

Only a retard would buy into such beliefs as an adult.

Religions serve multiple practical purposes.

Which is a giant fucking red flag on the entire humanity. All of this outdated bullshit that was used to make sense of the world has to be discarded with in the pursuit of factual knowledge and science in general.

Like "trust the experts/science" during covid circus, forgetting, or never knowing that blind trust is against foundation of science,

Except we didn't. Everybody intelligent knows that

trust the experts and science

is a bullshit statement liek you point out. Experts are never to be trusted anyway, because who said they're experts? Authority I don't respect? kek. And as for the science, well the did not show us any science... because there was nothing to show. It's impossible to do and complete a proper multi year clinical trial of a drug or a vaccine in a span of 4 or 5 months. Let alone multiple. All they could have ever told us by then was

trust me bro

and it was painfully obvious. For the record, I never bought into panic, I'm not vaccinated against covid specifically, even once, before I don't take untested miracle vaccines. I have/and/or would take a smallpox vaccine for example. That shit is effective and mostly safe as of today.

mother nature

it's all fine and good, but doesn't matter in 200 years anyway, so I still don't see the connection?

Don't think it's beneath you or silly

So, won't matter and in a pursuit of feefee and hedonism, I become a degenerate chad-man-whore to sleep with as many females as possible?
Reality is careless behavior and no consideration of risks will or can lead to potentially very negative consequences tomorrow, that will make the existence even shittier. i.e. std, false accusations, etc..

nowhere in this description you mention their capabilities regarding love, being caring, understanding, empathetic.
therefore, and since i assume both of them are the same in this regard too, i dont really mind. i honestly wouldn't care dating any of them, given they actually love me.
now, the problem comes with being "confident". usually, women that are career driven become quite arrogant and selfish. this is not always the case, but the stereotype is still there. if she isn't like that, then i double down on my first statement. money is not a problem for me, and i would work regardless of being able to neet due to my partners wealth or something

Only a retard would buy into such beliefs as an adult

As above, it doesn't matter if it yelds actual results in real life like better performance. Nature cares only about outcome and survival of the fittest. If religion helps with that then it will ultimatelly win. Those who do not have kids go exinct and genes responsible for their temperament and by extension beliefs, poolitical stances etc, along with them. Earth will be inherited by those who have kids and whatever beliefs that led them to have those kids.
Yes, it goes against logic we use to build science we use to achieve so much. Maybe that's the main imperfection of humans. After all, we're merely a random mutation, an attempt to see which life form will survive the longest. Statistically it is likely that we might end up another dead end, like many species before us. Still, if I find it enjoyable to imagine us winning, it matters in this moment and produces results. You may kill yourself, but I will continue, because I'm fine with my imperfections.

Except we didn't.

Who is we? I meant there all the people who believed it. That includes religious people too. Or so called religious, because religious fundamentalism isn't really that common in the west these times. Maybe that's one of the reasons why we're dying out. Maybe even one of the main ones.

doesn't matter in 200 years anyway, so I still don't see the connection?

It matters now in my life. It determines my choices which have consequences down the line in the future. If my choices lead to me having more kids, there will be more of people sharing my traits in the future and those people will shape their little corners of the world. That's the connection. Of course there is no connection in your perspective if you aren't planning to reproduce, or don't feel kinship with your blood.

degenerate chad-man-whore

Funny because I am degenerate. But I came to conclusion that balance is most optimal. Like beind degen with just your wife.

You're talking to 2 people there. This board needs IDs

I know. While their stances aren't exactly the same, they both were similar enough to make this response to both of them.
First poster is staunchly against my perspective and gets pissed by it. Second one agrees with proper way being having kids, but still points out religion is just a cope. And my response is about religions not necessarily being completely useless as even if they are bullshit, which most likely they are, it doesn't matter if yelds practical, positive results.

B would probably wear me down. I don't like working even if I do it, most likely won't stand having someone career oriented by my side.
I would need more information though since both could be insufferable for different reasons.

Im not saying we should abolish religion and burn the churches. I haven't read your reply yet but I think religion is only necessary for keeping normies in some kind of morality with peer pressure and fear of lake of fire.

I don't think that justifies believing in god or following any of these religions myself. Outcast end up doing better things. Nowadays independence from all that isn't really a red flag to people so I'll just admit it.

I would pick Girl B any day.
Girl B would never pick me, though.

pick the girl who regularly goes to the church

Girl A. I work hard and long hours and I need a woman who will appreciate that. I'm mentally ill, not abusive just get in my own head a lot about how people hate me and I should kill myself (I won't).
Shy, passive, insecure. Just like me FR in my experience girls like that really want a social extrovert bro to make up for her shortcomings so if I can find one who isn't like and she likes me then naturally I'll latch on.

Fuck off

Its actually a real oxymoron but they are more likely to be whores because they got denied for longer freedom with the way they were raised. Sex was demonized to them which idolizes it. Reverse psychology. Girls raised with a Christian family grow up to be overly social, naive, judgmental in a meaningless way, and in the end more desperate for cock, more oftentimes BBC compared to their atheist counterparts. My sister is a great example.

OP here. I posted this thread because yesterday in a thread about a rich, pretty girl who got cheated on by her fiance several anons argued with me that I don't know what men want and almost every man on the planet would prefer a broke NEET girl (who will depend on you to pay some of her bills) over a woman who made a business and is affluent.

Yet as we see in this thread, a definite amount of men would desire the confident, rich girl over the "loser" girl... so clearly the anons were full of crap that it's a clear cut decision for men.

Clearly you didn't read all the replies. Its 50/50. Why are you trying to be a muh strong, independent woman

Are we in the same thread? Men don't care about her income in this very thread. Female income doesn't buy unconditional love. A discovery men made long ago and the females will make in the 21st century, kek.
Pussy is pussy tho, is the bastard wants to clap and dump, then hey, it's female fault to selecting degenerates.

Clearly you didn't read what I said. I never said the majority wants the rich girl, I said it's not CLEAR CUT like the other anon implied that like 99% of men would prefer a NEET over a wealthy girl.

There were plenty of replies going for B.